Shahed-129 MALE UCAV | News and Discussions

[jarves]

Gradually we'll be there, maybe RUSTOM has higher payload. Or we can increase the wingspan to increase the lift, hence less energy required to keep it flying, increasing range.

None of the drones have this much range and devlopment of Rustom1 has already been completed.
The tests we will be conducting this year will be of Rustom 2.

 

[SrNair]

I think Iran is technologically advanced than other countries in middle east .at least in the term of militarly
Congratulation

 

[haman10]

.I mean this thing has combat range of 1400 km

Actually 1700

also its ferry range is 3800km

Tnx buddy

 

[Serpentine]

Seen today in Damascus. Is this Fotros?!

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=223432271187285

 

[500]

Sadid-1 A-G laser guided smart missile :

superior equivalent of israeli Spike LR made by rafael company :

Spike is IR guided fire and forget +. Sadid is another bluff.

 

[Wave]

Why are they flying so low?
What kind if Flir are the s-129 and fotros using and are there specs about the pod itself ?

 

[haman10]

Spike is IR guided fire and forget +. Sadid is another bluff.

You're another bluff

bluff , first of all iran doesnt have any spike LRs , thus some analysts only say the design was influenced by Spike .

now , its time for me to embarrass you yet again

look at this and learn sth dummy :

Seen here in its man-portable configuration, the Spike LR is to be upgraded with an enhanced fibre-optic guidance cable to extend its range from 4 km to 5 km. The Spike NLOS is also to be upgraded with improved capabilities. Source: Rafael

"We are increasing the range of the Spike LR from 4 km to 5 km, … [and] the Spike NLOS is to be equipped with a SAL [semi-active laser], not for homing but to see [off-board] laser designation," he said.

Rafael to offer Spike missile enhancements - IHS Jane's 360

 

[500]

You're another bluff

bluff , first of all iran doesnt have any spike LRs , thus some analysts only say the design was influenced by Spike .

now , its time for me to embarrass you yet again

look at this and learn sth dummy :

Seen here in its man-portable configuration, the Spike LR is to be upgraded with an enhanced fibre-optic guidance cable to extend its range from 4 km to 5 km. The Spike NLOS is also to be upgraded with improved capabilities. Source: Rafael

"We are increasing the range of the Spike LR from 4 km to 5 km, … [and] the Spike NLOS is to be equipped with a SAL [semi-active laser], not for homing but to see [off-board] laser designation," he said.

Rafael to offer Spike missile enhancements - IHS Jane's 360

Spike is fire and forget IR homing missile. SAL is going to be added to IR so it will get the dual guidance. But IR will remain the major one.

That's recent trend to add laser as backup: Brimstone, SDB-II, JCM.

 

[haman10]

Spike is fire and forget IR homing missile. SAL is going to be added to IR so it will get the dual guidance. But IR will remain the major one.

That's recent trend to add laser as backup: Brimstone, SDB-II, JCM.

heck no !!!

IR targeting is only offered in some versions of it . but neither Spike LR , nor Spike NLOS have IR homing based on wikipedia and IHS janes .

Spike is a fourth generation[2] man-portable fire-and-forget anti-tank guided missile and anti-personnel missile with a tandem-charged HEAT warhead, developed and designed by the Israeli company Rafael Advanced Defense Systems and in service with a number of nations.

As well as engaging and destroying targets within the line-of-sight of the launcher ("fire-and-forget"), some variants of the missile are capable of making a top-attack profile through a "fire, observe and update" guidance method;[2] the operator tracking the target, or switching to another target, optically through the trailing fiber-optic wire while the missile is climbing to altitude after launch. This is similar to the lofted trajectory flight profile of the US FGM-148 Javelin.
Spike-LR
long range version. The weight of the missile is 14 kg (30 lb 14 oz), and the weight of the complete system is less than 45 kg (99 lb 3 oz).[9] Maximum range is 4,000 m (13,000 ft) and it is used by infantry and light combat vehicles. It adds fiber-optic communication to and from the launching soldier during flight.[10] Reported armour penetration capability is more than 700 mm (28 in) of Rolled homogeneous armour (RHA).[11]

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anyway , as i said before , analysts only say that the Sadid-1 missile designers had been influenced by zio Spike . not that its a COPY of spike . so now , dont embarrass yourself more . Tnx .

 

[500]

heck no !!!

IR targeting is only offered in some versions of it . but neither Spike LR , nor Spike NLOS have IR homing based on wikipedia and IHS janes .

You just cant calm down? Spike LR has same IR homing head as Spike MR. But it adds fiber optic communication for fire and update option. You still can fire it in fire and forget mode.

anyway , as i said before , analysts only say that the Sadid-1 missile designers had been influenced by zio Spike . not that its a COPY of spike . so now , dont embarrass yourself more . Tnx .

You claimed that laser guided Sadid-1 is superior equivalent of Spike. Thats total joke, because Spike is 3rd generation while laser guided missiles are 2nd generation.

 

[tyrant]

Seen today in Damascus. Is this Fotros?!

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=223432271187285

No. It is not like that IMO. It lacks the SATCOM bulge. I think it is from the Mohajir series. Compare with this one when flying in the sky:

Sadid-1 A-G laser guided smart missile :

This is not S129 either. It is a Mohajir 1 firing an RPG 7 rocket during Iran-Iraq war in 1986.

Compare it to this one at 1:26:

 

[Basel]

Because you arent aware of our defence industrey doesnt mean that we dont have "UCAVs" .... search about Burraq UCAV..

After so many years Burraq was displayed and it was just locally produced CH-3, Pakistan is not developing its own attack helos, we don't have capability to track and bring down stealth drones and we have not seen SLV all of which Iran have made.

Pakistan have started its UAV programs but still we are far from having indigenous MALE / HALE UAV / UCAV, Burraq is too little too late.

 

[haman10]

You just cant calm down? Spike LR has same IR homing head as Spike MR. But it adds fiber optic communication for fire and update option. You still can fire it in fire and forget mode.

which retard adds Fiber-optic to IR homing ? Fiber-optic's one and only problem is its limited range !! but if u have it installed , then thats it !!! no other guidance will be used . unless you're a retard .

besides , Wikipedia and janes say sth else , unless you know better than them

remember this pic , its gonna be your nightmare

wait ! we actually dont need to use these since Ababil (ayub of hezbollah) can do the job

incompetents .....

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

After so many years Burraq was displayed and it was just locally produced CH-3.

A few types of UAVs produced by Pakistan and exported to the likes of US,UK and South America:

Pakistan's UAV - Drone developments

Pakistan is not developing its own attack helos, we don't have capability to track and bring down stealth drones and we have not seen SLV all of which Iran have made.

WTF is a "stealth drone" ? and any UAV can be bought down by a side winder as of now... As for SLV... We do have a program.. heck during early-mid 2000s a mock up was exhibited at IDEAS Exhibitions.. but guess what such things require alot of moolah $$..

Also about Gunships... again $$ ... But we have developed and are developing our defence industry... and a good one... Frigs,missile boats,STUS,Replenishment ships,APCs,IFV,ALC,ARVs,MBTs,UAVs etc etc...

Pakistan have started its UAV programs but still we are far from having indigenous MALE / HALE UAV / UCAV, Burraq is too little too late.

O jaa yaar... you dont even know the basics... how many neighbours or countries in the world have operations MALE UAVs and UCAVs? we have both..

FALCO,Shahpar,Burraq,Jasoos,Uqab etc etc to name a few..

 

[Basel]

A few types of UAVs produced by Pakistan and exported to the likes of US,UK and South America:

They only bought those as they don't needed advance & expensive UAVs for the purpose of border patrol.

WTF is a "stealth drone" ? and any UAV can be bought down by a side winder as of now... As for SLV... We do have a program.. heck during early-mid 2000s a mock up was exhibited at IDEAS Exhibitions.. but guess what such things require alot of moolah $$..
Also about Gunships... again $$ ... But we have developed and are developing our defence industry... and a good one... Frigs,missile boats,STUS,Replenishment ships,APCs,IFV,ALC,ARVs,MBTs,UAVs etc etc...

If you dont know stealth drone that that is a surprise to me, this is what it is and Iran claimed to bring down one.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/09/w...us-drone-on-tv-and-lodges-a-protest.html?_r=0
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U.S. Military Sources: Iran Has Missing U.S. Drone | Fox News

I know all that what programs we have, lets stick to the topic which is UAV/UCAV and here Pakistan was the first country in the region to recognise the potential of UAVs and we built them earlier then many countries but today we are equal or behind from those who started later then us, all know money is an issue but our military have to identify a plate form which can perform all missions of UAVs / UCAV in at least MALE class which is need of time.