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Senators criticise ‘remarks over Gwadar protests’

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Gen. Asif Ghafoor was also captured on video disrespecting and demeaning flood victims for asking questions about the Army’s involvement in politics essentially telling them to shut up and either ‘feed your families or talk about the Army’s role in politics’.

Can’t believe this disgraceful individual used to command so much respect from so many Pakistanis.
 
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Senators criticise ‘remarks over Gwadar protests’​


Imran Mukhtar


January 18, 2023




ISLAMABAD - A treasury lawmaker on Tuesday in the Senate objected to the unconfirmed remarks, doing the rounds on social media, of a top military commander in Balochistan about the recent protests led by Haq Do Tehreek in Gwadar, the port city of Balochistan. Speaking on a point of public concern, JUI-F Senator Kamran Murtaza said that protest was the right of everyone and the demands of people of Gwadar were neither unconstitutional nor illegal. Earlier this month, some unconfirmed social media reports had attributed a statement to Commander of XII Corps Lt Gen Asif Ghafoor that anyone who protested in Gwadar would be put behind the bars. Former president of Supreme Court Bar Association Senator Murtaza further said that he was appalled by the remarks of an officer, who heads the security issues in Balochistan, when he reportedly said that anyone who resorted to protest in the port city would be sent to jail. “Is Gwadar some occupied territory?” he questioned. The lawmaker said that the officer had no right to talk in such a manner and threaten the people to send them in jail. “We reject such behavior and threats,” he said without naming anyone. However, Balochistan Awami Party (BAP) Senator Danesh Kumar opposed the remarks of the treasury lawmaker and said that he was astonished that some unauthentic social media reports were being discussed in the house. He said that Jamaat-e-Islami Senator Mushtaq Ahmad, a day earlier, had also raised his concerns over such unverified statement. He questioned why the Pakistan Army was being dragged into such matters unnecessarily when the institution itself was saying that it wanted to remain apolitical. “We should talk in the house over some confirmed statements or incidents,” he said. Senator Ahmad on a point of personal explanation said that the corps commander should give an explanation about the remarks attributed to him. “If he clarifies, then I will withdraw my statement, “he said and warned that any member of the house should not become spokesperson of a military officer. He also said that the demands of the people of Gwadar were genuine and Maulana Hidayatur Rehman, the leader of the Haq Do Tehreek, was the voice of the poor people of Balochistan. Senator Murtaza also got the floor on a point of personal explanation and said that the statement attributed to the military commander was widely reported and he should have contradicted it if the same was untrue. I would apologize if the commander contradicted it, he added. Earlier, Senator Naseebullah Bazai, opening the debate on the issue, said that Maulana Hidayatur Rehman was using the people of Gwadar for his vested interests.


The deaths related to gas going out and coming back is a much much bigger issue for me atleast.
I have stopped believing in word of mouth since a long time.unless there is video evidence.. .. so yes.... the 200 deaths due to gas load shedding is a much bigger thing to worry about
 
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Gen. Asif Ghafoor was also captured on video disrespecting and demeaning flood victims for asking questions about the Army’s involvement in politics essentially telling them to shut up and either ‘feed your families or talk about the Army’s role in politics’.

Can’t believe this disgraceful individual used to command so much respect from so many Pakistanis.

Oh please, let us not get so melodramatic. All he meant to say was: "No Pizza For You!" (with apologies to the Soup Nazi from Seinfeld.) :D
 
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Senators criticise ‘remarks over Gwadar protests’​


Imran Mukhtar


January 18, 2023




ISLAMABAD - A treasury lawmaker on Tuesday in the Senate objected to the unconfirmed remarks, doing the rounds on social media, of a top military commander in Balochistan about the recent protests led by Haq Do Tehreek in Gwadar, the port city of Balochistan. Speaking on a point of public concern, JUI-F Senator Kamran Murtaza said that protest was the right of everyone and the demands of people of Gwadar were neither unconstitutional nor illegal. Earlier this month, some unconfirmed social media reports had attributed a statement to Commander of XII Corps Lt Gen Asif Ghafoor that anyone who protested in Gwadar would be put behind the bars. Former president of Supreme Court Bar Association Senator Murtaza further said that he was appalled by the remarks of an officer, who heads the security issues in Balochistan, when he reportedly said that anyone who resorted to protest in the port city would be sent to jail. “Is Gwadar some occupied territory?” he questioned. The lawmaker said that the officer had no right to talk in such a manner and threaten the people to send them in jail. “We reject such behavior and threats,” he said without naming anyone. However, Balochistan Awami Party (BAP) Senator Danesh Kumar opposed the remarks of the treasury lawmaker and said that he was astonished that some unauthentic social media reports were being discussed in the house. He said that Jamaat-e-Islami Senator Mushtaq Ahmad, a day earlier, had also raised his concerns over such unverified statement. He questioned why the Pakistan Army was being dragged into such matters unnecessarily when the institution itself was saying that it wanted to remain apolitical. “We should talk in the house over some confirmed statements or incidents,” he said. Senator Ahmad on a point of personal explanation said that the corps commander should give an explanation about the remarks attributed to him. “If he clarifies, then I will withdraw my statement, “he said and warned that any member of the house should not become spokesperson of a military officer. He also said that the demands of the people of Gwadar were genuine and Maulana Hidayatur Rehman, the leader of the Haq Do Tehreek, was the voice of the poor people of Balochistan. Senator Murtaza also got the floor on a point of personal explanation and said that the statement attributed to the military commander was widely reported and he should have contradicted it if the same was untrue. I would apologize if the commander contradicted it, he added. Earlier, Senator Naseebullah Bazai, opening the debate on the issue, said that Maulana Hidayatur Rehman was using the people of Gwadar for his vested interests.


Chacha Ghafoor to acha aadmi hua karta tha, hameesha awaam kay jazbaat ki numaindgi karta tha.

Kiya aisa be ho sakta? Tabdeeli aa gai hai ya koi majboori hai?

He was a good man, and I hope he still is, and all this is just a part of ongoing propaganda trend.
 
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The protests are ridiculous

We have a problem with backwardness in the country

Any investment, development is hindered by backwardness of local jahils


Instead of supporting development and demanding local investment, they create havoc


The wellbeing of 230 million people can't be risked because these idiots
WTH are you talking about ?

they asking for
electricity
clean water
stopping 1600 fishing trawlers of sindh to enter gawadar
crack down against drugs
relocation of few check posts where female passed



what is jahalat in it ????? dont always jump on guns .
 
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...get early elections called.

No one says it should get early elections called...but it should not STOP them from being called.

Forget PTI aligned people, just look at the statements of Mustafa Nawaz Khokar among many others.
 
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No one says it should get early elections called...but it should not STOP them from being called.

Forget PTI aligned people, just look at the statements of Mustafa Nawaz Khokar among many others.

As if elections will solve anything?
 
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As if elections will solve anything?

They might, or might not. But at least that would be an organic manner of procession, rather than the current carefully manufactured process.

It's like the head of the family takes a critical patient out of the hospital and then says is ki halat kharab ho rahi hai, but when presented with the option to go to a hospital, says 'as if it will solve anything'.
 
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No one says it should get early elections called...but it should not STOP them from being called.

Forget PTI aligned people, just look at the statements of Mustafa Nawaz Khokar among many others.
How is the Army stopping them from being called? Its up to the incumbent government to call early elections.
They might, or might not. But at least that would be an organic manner of procession, rather than the current carefully manufactured process.

It's like the head of the family takes a critical patient out of the hospital and then says is ki halat kharab ho rahi hai, but when presented with the option to go to a hospital, says 'as if it will solve anything'.
This recent "carefully manufactured process" started in 2017 so its not unique to the incumbents.
 
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They might, or might not. But at least that would be an organic manner of procession, rather than the current carefully manufactured process.

It's like the head of the family takes a critical patient out of the hospital and then says is ki halat kharab ho rahi hai, but when presented with the option to go to a hospital, says 'as if it will solve anything'.

Yes, but what if the decision was taken long ago that the people cannot be allowed to decide outside for themselves outside this manufactured process? Just leaving the patient on a ventilator and with a paced heartbeat may suffice for those already brain dead, perhaps, to go with your analogy.

This recent "carefully manufactured process" started in 2017 so its not unique to the incumbents.

Sir, mazak na karein. It started long long long before 2017. And continues to this day.
 
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The protests are ridiculous

How are peaceful protests ridiculous?

The wellbeing of 230 million people can't be risked because these idiots

Who caused the food crisis?

Any investment, development is hindered by backwardness of local jahils

Speak for yourself.

Backward guy gets caught in a sting operation for grooming lol:

 
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Yes, but what if the decision was taken long ago that the people cannot be allowed to decide outside for themselves outside this manufactured process? Just leaving the patient on a ventilator and with a paced heartbeat may suffice for those already brain dead, perhaps, to go with your analogy.



Sir, mazak na karein. It started long long long before 2017. And continues to this day.
Thus the use of the word "recent" as in this current round. ;-)
 
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Yes, and the politicians had no hand in it, right!

Solution is simple. Convert Gwader into a strategic, high-security zone and disallow protests around it and call it a day. Demonstrations can be held at many other places but traffic, trade going in and out of the port cannot be hindered. No different than Sector G-5 in ISB i.e. diplomatic enclave.

Why blackout the media though?

Doesn't that cause more resentment?

This recent "carefully manufactured process" started in 2017 so its not unique to the incumbents.

It started in 1947.
 
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