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Pakistan was established as an Islamic Republic in it's founding documents.
Our first constitution made Pakistan an Islamic Republic, and hell, even before independence--declaration of Pakistan in 1933 by Chaudry Rehmat Ali clearly stated a demand for a separate nation based on religious reasons.
Here, the full text
3, Humberstone Road,
Cambridge, England.
28 January 1933
Dear Sir or Madam,
I am enclosing herewith an appeal on behalf of the thirty million Muslims of PAKISTAN, who live in the five Northern Units of India—Punjab, North-West Frontier (Afghan) Province, Kashmir, Sind, and Baluchistan. It embodies their demand for the recognition of their national status, as distinct from the other inhabitants of India, by the grant to Pakistan of a separate Federal Constitution on religious, social and historical grounds.
I shall be pleased if you will kindly acquaint me with your valuable opinion on the proposed solution of the great Hindu-Muslim problem. I trust that, vitally interested as you are in a just and permanent solution of that complex problem, the objects outlined in the appeal wiIl meet with your fullest approval and active support.
Yours truly, Rahmat Ali (Choudhary). (Founder, Pakistan National Movement)
Does all of this sound to you as an plea for a 'secular' nation?
Look, you can fool yourself and create a myth for your psychological stability. But please, don't peddle your lies on us.
Pakistan was meant to be an Islamic state. Pakistan was declared an Islamic Republic in its founding documents. Pakistan will stay an Islamic Republic, Inshallah.
Please, stop banging your head on the wall for no reason.
Pakistan was established as an Islamic Republic in it's founding documents.
Our first constitution made Pakistan an Islamic Republic, and hell, even before independence--declaration of Pakistan in 1933 by Chaudry Rehmat Ali clearly stated a demand for a separate nation based on religious reasons.
Here, the full text
3, Humberstone Road,
Cambridge, England.
28 January 1933
Dear Sir or Madam,
I am enclosing herewith an appeal on behalf of the thirty million Muslims of PAKISTAN, who live in the five Northern Units of India—Punjab, North-West Frontier (Afghan) Province, Kashmir, Sind, and Baluchistan. It embodies their demand for the recognition of their national status, as distinct from the other inhabitants of India, by the grant to Pakistan of a separate Federal Constitution on religious, social and historical grounds.
I shall be pleased if you will kindly acquaint me with your valuable opinion on the proposed solution of the great Hindu-Muslim problem. I trust that, vitally interested as you are in a just and permanent solution of that complex problem, the objects outlined in the appeal wiIl meet with your fullest approval and active support.
Yours truly, Rahmat Ali (Choudhary). (Founder, Pakistan National Movement)
Does all of this sound to you as an plea for a 'secular' nation?
Look, you can fool yourself and create a myth for your psychological stability. But please, don't peddle your lies on us.
Pakistan was meant to be an Islamic state. Pakistan was declared an Islamic Republic in its founding documents. Pakistan will stay an Islamic Republic, Inshallah.
Please, stop banging your head on the wall for no reason.
don't know why people here start jumping up and down after hearing the word liberal while me @The Sandman @Zibago @Musafir117 and many other liberal fellows over here has many times explained our intentions(truth be told i am tired of doing it again and again) and the meaning of the word liberal hereAnd peope please stop labelling these vermins as liberals, liberalism is a phenomina that advocates negation of caste system, economic uplift of humans, equal oppurtunites to all and equal justice for all regardless of power or post, liberalism never actually stood for naked women, drunk loafers, rampant drugs, godlessness, feminism and disintegration of the nuclear family and traditional household, capitalists have hijacked liberalism to generate money through filth and what better way to justify it than labeling it as liberalism, muslims and islam were the greatest liberals ever to have walked the earth, label these vermins as secular fascists cause thats what they actually are..
Not worth it yr not worth it people who've lived their whole lives listening to conspiracy theories are taught to hate and abuse those who even slightly disagrees with them aren't gonna change their thinking no matter how many explanations we give.don't know why people here start jumping up and down after hearing the word liberal while me @The Sandman @Zibago @Musafir117 and many other liberal fellows over here has many times explained our intentions(truth be told i am tired of doing it again and again) and the meaning of the word liberal here
here read this article written by me and explained by my fellow PDF liberals what our views are.we are not the enemy of the state nor we are paid agents as most of you guys believe.
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/what-does-being-a-liberal-means.477426/
don't know why people here start jumping up and down after hearing the word liberal while me @The Sandman @Zibago @Musafir117 and many other liberal fellows over here has many times explained our intentions(truth be told i am tired of doing it again and again) and the meaning of the word liberal here
here read this article written by me and explained by my fellow PDF liberals what our views are.we are not the enemy of the state nor we are paid agents as most of you guys believe.
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/what-does-being-a-liberal-means.477426/
yar i was away from this thread for the same reason i too am tired from all the parroting that i have to do. but don't know why i still can't lose hope with the PDF guys.i still think we can change some views hereNot worth it yr not worth it people who've lived their whole lives listening to conspiracy theories are taught to hate and abuse those who even slightly disagree with them aren't gonna change their thinking no matter how many explanations we give.
That's why i keep participating in these types of threads.i still think we can change some views here
That's why i keep participating in these types of threads.
thanks mateThanks for the link. I am glad you even posted the clarification about liberal. It is scary to see what ignorance does with Pakistan. I am afraid our stances on the liberal/secular might fall on deaf ears for the time being. That shouldn't stop us from repeating to serve reminder what true Liberal means in general. Keep up the good work.
I am beginning to think those people may have caught Indian spirits who openly mocks at secularism ever since Modi came to the power. Not only that, they have fun word for secular now; sickular.
This PTI speaker has said the right thing.Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) lawmaker Ali Muhammad Khan caused a stir on Wednesday when he advised those believing Pakistan to be a secular state to mend their ways or leave the country.
“Whoever wants to turn Pakistan into a secular state should mend their ways or move to such a country,” the MNA said during a talk show on 92News.
Screen grab from the talk show
According to Ali, the country was not established on any secular ideology, and rather an Islamic ideology was its basis.
“What did the founder of the nation, Quaid-e-Azam, wanted to be the basis of the country,” the member National Assembly said. “This country was created only in the name of Islam.”
‘Pakistan is different from all other states created in the name of religion’
Not only does Islam hold the basis of Pakistan, the country has the blood of numerous martyrs in its soil, he added.
The politician went on to say that people working on the behest of the enemy, assert that we as a nation should only put own house in order and forget the rest. “We should put our house in order as well as be concerned about what’s happening around the world.”
While some say that the founder of the nation, Mohammad Ali Jinnah, wanted a secular state not governed by a specific religion, others argue he wanted an Islamic welfare state.