School van targeted by TTP in Swat

[TheSolution]

You should finally be sent to a Kabuli Bacha baaz Talabani warlord to fulfill all your wild fantasies
This isn't the place for friend , we are not TTP sympathizers here

He is more than a TTP sympathizer, he's a professional Kabuli ball s*cker

 

[RealNapster]

Lets hope they don't make Malala Yusufzai Prime Minister in place of Bilawal or Nawaz/Shahbaz next year. She is a ripe and properly built up and marketed tool to be used with proper public sentiment in the country.

Bhai Jo paisa lagata Hy hero b usi Ka beta hota Hy.

CIA deserve to have its own candidate. Zardario or shareefo ki olaado pe kab tak paisa laegata ge ?

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Real Muslims are the most against ttp.
While you guys flirt with secularism and try to kill ttp with secularism, we label them as khawarij and actually damage their cause.
While you guys say separate religion from state, we say have a state religion so state can regulate and teach religion to everyone like it does with other subjects like maths or sciences. You guys by wanting state to separate it self from religion leave your children at the mercy of ignorant Mullahs. We don’t just drop our kids off at a masjid and expect them to learn Islam from some molvi who we don’t even know about. We start teaching our kids Islam from home than send them to trustworthy molvis. You guys and your pushes for secularism alienate religious people in society and force them to be used by ignorant Mullahs. We call for a Islamic Pakistan because islam ensures the rights of minorities. Your guys neglect for Islam means you have to take your deen from some ignorant mullah because you guys don’t know shit about the deen. We say make Pakistan a Islamic country and teach the Sunnah of Rasulallah (ﷺ) to our children so they grow up to be proper Muslims and follow his (ﷺ) Sunnah. We say make Pakistan Islamic so ignorant Mullahs don’t make jahils lynch people, instead a proper trial with religious judges takes place and Justice is properly served. This mob mentality comes because while we can teach lgbtq in schools, we can’t teach Islam to our children in schools so parents have to find madressas to put their children in and, molvis payed by the government in Pakistan don’t nearly make enough to survive so many religious knowledgeable people don’t even become molvis and we end up with people tryna exploit Islam who brainwash our children.
Your guys solution is to promote secularism and this false ideology that we are united by nothing which in fact creates the most religious extremism because you guys live in a utopia and neglect the fact that majority of the country is religious conservative and will remain that way.
The sooner you guys wake up and make the country more Islamic, the faster we’ll progress.


And some geniuses think it’s a great idea to use secularism to counter them .
They call our soldiers “murtads” and instead of motivating our soldiers telling them their true Muslims and fighting khawarij, you guys tell them about secularism and to go fight for secularism.

These secularist Pakistanis are fucking stupid.

If it werent for madrassas, hundreds of thousands of kids would be on the streets, jobless, in gangs, robbing these same secular chuttu's houses at gun point. Pakistan would have been a rapist and AIDS infested society like India....

 

[Mr.Green]

He is more than a TTP sympathizer, he's a professional Kabuli ball s*cker

Both of you are used to eating the Subedars apple that he used to put under your pillow.

 

[Maula Jatt]

These secularist Pakistanis are fucking stupid.

If it werent for madrassas, hundreds of thousands of kids would be on the streets, jobless, in gangs, robbing these same secular chuttu's houses at gun point. Pakistan would have been a rapist and AIDS infested society like India....

if these madrassa kids weren't blowing themselves up - maybe just maybe
We wouldn't be where we are and we as the state would have been taking care of em

National unity- there's no better unity than being part of a successful, thriving state

 

[Mr.Green]

You should finally be sent to a Kabuli Bacha baaz Talabani warlord to fulfill all your wild fantasies
This isn't the place for you friend, we are not TTP sympathizers here - this isn't the 2000s when you could fool people

You should be used as a sandwich between Murad Saeed and Imran Khan.

 

[Signalian]

This post reeks of the propaganda campaign launched by the military leadership against the Pakistani people, while swindling of billions in their off shore accounts.

Step 1: Launch Proxies within Pakistan, to create divisions within society.

Step 2: Tell Daddy that Pakistanis are horrible and we are the only ones who can control this rabid mob.

Step 3: Use sacrifices of brave young men to conjure up image among the gullible within Pakistan as being the only ones who can save Pakistan.

Step 4: Rinse and Repeat.

If the propaganda you're peddling against the people of Pakistan is true, then Pakistan would have already looked like Afghanistan or worse. The people of Pakistan keep surviving despite the infinite greed of certain sectors to keep power, who would rather see the country burn then give it up. But since it's our home, we don't want to watch it burn, we keep tolerating. Write a few more essays against the poor people of Pakistan.

Of course, although it’s not but my post will seem like propaganda since I’m not making scapegoat of governments or leaders or military but pointing out the fact that public lost its power and integrity by itself and such a bitter truth is not what media feeds through Twitter or YouTube or tv channels because that won’t sell.

Keep blaming the government and keep suffering, that’s how weak the public is and that’s how religion is being used in different forms unfortunately to cause divisions.

 

[TheSolution]

You should be used as a sandwich between Murad Saeed and Imran Khan.

First signs of Kabul bacha baazi victimhood

 

[Maula Jatt]

You should be used as a sandwich between Murad Saeed and Imran Khan.

I know your dad is dead but still, try to calm yourself down
https://www.dawn.com/news/1053410

 

[lastofthepatriots]

if these madrassa kids weren't blowing themselves up - maybe just maybe
We wouldn't be where we are and we as the state would have been taking care of em

State doesn’t take care about anyone, don’t be a silly chuttu. How many madrassa students blow themselves up? Statistics please...


Forget about state taking care of these kids, they can’t even regulate madrassas....
-An actual step to solving this problem.

The state can’t even protect its people.

The fucking state can’t even balance a checkbook.

Vadday state lei pir de puddi de.

 

[Signalian]

Real Muslims are the most against ttp.
While you guys flirt with secularism and try to kill ttp with secularism, we label them as khawarij and actually damage their cause.
While you guys say separate religion from state, we say have a state religion so state can regulate and teach religion to everyone like it does with other subjects like maths or sciences. You guys by wanting state to separate it self from religion leave your children at the mercy of ignorant Mullahs. We don’t just drop our kids off at a masjid and expect them to learn Islam from some molvi who we don’t even know about. We start teaching our kids Islam from home than send them to trustworthy molvis. You guys and your pushes for secularism alienate religious people in society and force them to be used by ignorant Mullahs. We call for a Islamic Pakistan because islam ensures the rights of minorities. Your guys neglect for Islam means you have to take your deen from some ignorant mullah because you guys don’t know shit about the deen. We say make Pakistan a Islamic country and teach the Sunnah of Rasulallah (ﷺ) to our children so they grow up to be proper Muslims and follow his (ﷺ) Sunnah. We say make Pakistan Islamic so ignorant Mullahs don’t make jahils lynch people, instead a proper trial with religious judges takes place and Justice is properly served. This mob mentality comes because while we can teach lgbtq in schools, we can’t teach Islam to our children in schools so parents have to find madressas to put their children in and, molvis payed by the government in Pakistan don’t nearly make enough to survive so many religious knowledgeable people don’t even become molvis and we end up with people tryna exploit Islam who brainwash our children.
Your guys solution is to promote secularism and this false ideology that we are united by nothing which in fact creates the most religious extremism because you guys live in a utopia and neglect the fact that majority of the country is religious conservative and will remain that way.
The sooner you guys wake up and make the country more Islamic, the faster we’ll progress.


And some geniuses think it’s a great idea to use secularism to counter them .
They call our soldiers “murtads” and instead of motivating our soldiers telling them their true Muslims and fighting khawarij, you guys tell them about secularism and to go fight for secularism.

You are correct.

The teaching begins in the lap of the mother. A child sees parents at home and learns basics from them. Then he goes to school and learns from teachers next.

Those parents are public whether businessmen or employees or government or bureaucracy.

 

[Sayfullah]

if these madrassa kids

Without these madressas Pakistan would be a slave of india in the region.
These madressa kids are the ones who are fighting for us in Kashmir and Afghanistan. Maybe tell ghq to stop sending madressa students to fight it’s wars.
Madressas kids fighting in every war and everywhere for Pakistan while they get no appreciation but only hate. Btw I personally know people who were sent both Afghanistan and Kashmir to fight by lumber 1 and were recruited from madressas and I know proper who were martyred fighting in both places.
Madressa students are the ones actually fighting for the country while lumber 1 stands at the border doing nothing.
Stop using madressa students for your wars and fight your own shit then if your so against madressas.

 

[TheSolution]

There was a time, some 75 years ago, when the public was stronger than the government and the law enforcers. Public used to make its own rules when allowing a hindu-filled train to cross the border unscathed or not, into India. Public is still strong but its gone corrupt to the core. The values of integrity and honor have become twisted as time passed. Now make anyone a scapegoat, be it government or Military or ministers of KPK - its the corrupt public which harbors soft corner towards enemies of Pakistan and its the same public which wants Pakistan to prosper - such hypocrisy leads to disaster. A minister cannot rule over public neither a general can command his troops, if there is no code of conduct whether its rules, religion, policy, law or whatever binds the public/troops to the Government.

Coming to your question, do you honestly think that terrorists striking within cities of Pakistan can carry out movement, construction of explosives, transport of weapons, etc without the help of locals - be it public, police, military or any other entity of the nation. No, they cannot. A simple guerilla war cannot be sustained without the help of the locals let alone won.

If you think that one fine day, TTP just walked into Pakistan without FC challenging them, and now all this is happening is how it happened - well it didn't like that. The extremism mindset has surged so deep down into Pakistani community since it was never weeded out in the first place, that its easy to recruit anyone for money, providing security or lodgings, other incentives and above all using religion to brainwash their minds.

The terrorists never left Pakistan in the first place. They amalgamated into the society, within populated cities too. How is this a military war then ? You can cleanse an area (e.g. FATA) through operations 10 times, but unless that extremism mindset is shredded and killed, there will be people who will keep taking place of dead terrorists and keep this war going against Pakistan. Have you looked at locations of IBOs conducted inside Pakistan, the locations are not mountains or caves or jungles or deserts, the locations are houses/dwellings inside towns and cities of Pakistan.

Should military bomb every city of Pakistan ? should military bomb every city of Baluchistan ? Are drone strikes the answer ?

How many madrassahs are there in Pakistan, have you ever calculated the total and then how many students are studying in them and what text is being regulated in those madrassahs. Say military kills 100 TTP, next month 100 more will arrive, and then 100 more, so from where are they coming ? Are all of them coming from Afghanistan ? Even if they come from Afghanistan under guises of businessmen or tradesmen getting Pakistani visas, who is harboring them and providing them shelter inside Pakistan, where they recruit more and grow in numbers ? and its not just TTP, its also BLF and other Baluch separatist elements. Do you know how and where BLF was formed ? It was formed outside Pakistan, not even in bordering countries of Pakistan. Then how come today its has surged deeply inside Pakistan and entrenched itself inside Pakistan ?

In a city like Karachi, its become so easy to travel to a place, plant an IED and walk away. This has happened many times. While you may look at swat, you should also look at other major cities of Pakistan too.

Now should military start operations in every city of Pakistan ? What will happen then ? Military has barricaded itself inside strong picket fences and enhanced security parameters. It will never be wise to start a full swing military operation in all pf Pakistan, this will be a war against Pakistanis themselves. Pakistanis who absorbed the extremist ideology of extremists.

Some Pakistanis are aligned with Iran, some with KSA, some with Afghanistan, but no Pakistani is aligned with Pakistan.

This post is facts

It doesn't get any more real than this, the generals and politicians have done their fair share of corruptness but that doesn't make what you said any less true

Maybe they need to teach the correct version of Islam, not the type which makes you go boom

Without these madressas Pakistan would be a slave of india in the region.
These madressa kids are the ones who are fighting for us in Kashmir and Afghanistan. Maybe tell ghq to stop sending madressa students to fight it’s wars.
Madressas kids fighting in every war and everywhere for Pakistan while they get no appreciation but only hate. Btw I personally know people who were sent both Afghanistan and Kashmir to fight by lumber 1 and were recruited from madressas and I know proper who were martyred fighting in both places.
Madressa students are the ones actually fighting for the country while lumber 1 stands at the border doing nothing.
Stop using madressa students for your wars and fight your own shit then if your so against madressas.

Sir the problem isn't madressas, or the kids fighting in wars, the problem is when they begin self-imploding in friendly territory, their setting has the wrong target locked

 

[Maula Jatt]

Without these madressas Pakistan would be a slave of india in the region.
These madressa kids are the ones who are fighting for us in Kashmir and Afghanistan. Maybe tell ghq to stop sending madressa students to fight it’s wars.
Madressas kids fighting in every war and everywhere for Pakistan while they get no appreciation but only hate. Btw I personally know people who were sent both Afghanistan and Kashmir to fight by lumber 1 and were recruited from madressas and I know proper who were martyred fighting in both places.
Madressa students are the ones actually fighting for the country while lumber 1 stands at the border doing nothing.
Stop using madressa students for your wars and fight your own shit then if your so against madressas.

I agree, Madrassa kids are just kids - they should be getting an education working in a factory- doing something productive
Losing your youth in Afghanistan or Kashmir is not the right thing to do - unless of course we are at proper war like Russia, Ukraine than I understand

 

[Signalian]

This post is facts

It doesn't get any more real than this, the generals and politicians have done their fair share of corruptness but that doesn't make what you said any less true

Maybe they need to teach the correct version of Islam, not the type which makes you go boom

If you have read about military topics - No guerrilla warfare can survive without public support. In modern times, no insurgency can survive without public support. There are elements within the public that harbour anti-Pakistan elements in all parts of Pakistan.