Saudia Arabia backing Raheel Shareef against Imran khan

[Jungibaaz]

The examples you quoted are of extreme political bias, they will compromise the integrity of state on behest of political loyalty. Much like Bangladesh army vis a vis Sheikh Hasina. Some family dynasties have misunderstood themselves as Royal family instead of political parties and use their minions to that end. Dawn leaks ???
Hamid Mir is a different ball game people suffer from short term memory and forget how he and his channel was hell bent on proving Ajmal Kasab as Pakistani or constant promotion of BLA / Missing persons families as victims, when they are safely sitting under the patronage of their sponsors.

This is what I meant in earlier posts about accusing media of extreme bias, fifth columnists and alluding to ulterior motives without any proof and usually without even counter-argument to their claims.

I understand why people believe these counter-accusations, the truth is actively hidden from them or replaced with propaganda, hence the confusion is also understandable. If you are ever confused or something makes no sense, check for gaps in your understanding, you are being kept in the dark. Then take a look at what those people, whose thoughts you've dismissed as outside the Overton window, are saying.

 

[Tomcats]

To be honest i think they will be backing their original and loyal candidate, NS. It's not a coincidence that as soon as he announces his intentions to return to Pakistan that the Saudi ambassador requests a meet with SMQ and that the Saudi FM would also be coming soon.

 

[Patriot forever]

This is what I meant in earlier posts about accusing media of extreme bias, fifth columnists and alluding to ulterior motives without any proof and usually without even counter-argument to their claims.

I understand why people believe these counter-accusations, the truth is actively hidden from them or replaced with propaganda, hence the confusion is also understandable. If you are ever confused or something makes no sense, check for gaps in your understanding, you are being kept in the dark. Then take a look at what those people, whose thoughts you've dismissed as outside the Overton window, are saying.

Bro you misunderstood what I said. E.g. take the example of dawn leaks yes we do support some elements in Afghanistan covertly, everyone of our enemy does so more than us. But does that mean that we should publically announce it to further our political agenda, get foreign backing, by leaking briefing? Who does that hurt?
Sometimes it's not about the truth but using information to take advantage of, Plmn always considered army as it's rival in attaining complete dominance and subservience over all institutions (Monarchy).
Does India announce that they fund ISIS in public in front of the whole world?

How do you explain Ajmal Kasab and what Hamid Mir did? Open my eyes and tell me was he really a Pakistani?

My main point is people like these journalists are just puppets, tools to spread information or disinformation by people with agendas.

When the greed of power becomes too much like in dawn leaks, national interests or integrity of state do not mean much.

 

[Microsoft]

What places?
NOONE WAS GOING TO GIVE YOU MONEY WHEN YOU WERE ABOUT TO DEFUALT.

Even IMF was hesitating whose JOB is to help country avoid defualt

Look at lebanon ..pakistani are pretty lucky..

I sometime wish he should have left the country to defualt so pakistanis can see what they have done..now they are going to relect the same people again..

A true defualt would have caused so much destruction that people would have been jolted enough to burn the jatri umrah and bilawal house..ofcourse bilawal would have been in dubai by that time..

Ans india would have check mates us by quickly moving in to take kashmir during all this choas


but alas he begged and saved their ***..

Pretty ungrateful son of *** we are..

Did you even read what I wrote? I didn't say go ask someone else for a loan I said they aren't blackmailing like the Saudis did.

 

[Bil]

I agree about the political parties and allegiances but that's about it. I don't take any accusations of foreign funded media or fifth columnists seriously or without evidence, examples of this are usually the establishment fighting against people who are too truthful for their liking.

Only a naive wouldn't know how polarized Pakistani media and filthy anchors are.

PML has knack of bribing worthless anchor's to spread their propaganda, inline are some references:

Secret funds case: List of 282 journalists made public | The Express Tribune

List uploaded on Supreme Court website contains names of senior journalists, anchors.

tribune.com.pk

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?274434-GEO-News-in-full-PML-N-campaign-mode-Paid-anchors-and-pundits-doing-a-sterling-job

Maryam Nawaz Paying The Salaries of Leading Anchors of Pakistan - Dr. Shahid Masood

Maryam Nawaz Paying The Salaries of Leading Anchors of Pakistan - Dr. Shahid Masood

www.unewstv.com

 

[Jungibaaz]

Only a naive wouldn't know how polarized Pakistani media and filthy anchors are.

PML has knack of bribing worthless anchor's to spread their propaganda, inline are some references:

Secret funds case: List of 282 journalists made public | The Express Tribune

List uploaded on Supreme Court website contains names of senior journalists, anchors.

tribune.com.pk

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?274434-GEO-News-in-full-PML-N-campaign-mode-Paid-anchors-and-pundits-doing-a-sterling-job

Maryam Nawaz Paying The Salaries of Leading Anchors of Pakistan - Dr. Shahid Masood

Maryam Nawaz Paying The Salaries of Leading Anchors of Pakistan - Dr. Shahid Masood

www.unewstv.com

Where did I claim that they weren’t polarised or biased to their own selective allegiances? In fact I said the opposite, from the quote you posted:

I agree about the political parties and allegiances but that's about it. I don't take any accusations of foreign funded media or fifth columnists seriously or without evidence...

And note how I said evidence on foreign funding of our media to accompany all of not most accusations. The fact that our media is commercially based and can easily be bribed and assuaged is not a revelation to anyone. Maybe you ought to read this exchange again before assuming that I’m being naive.

Also that last link is bogus, dr shahid masood is far from a reliable source, I don’t want to attack the guy too much lest his fans get too upset, but let’s just say I don’t take him seriously at all.