SAC FC-31 Stealth Fighter: News & Discussions

[That Guy]

Perhaps, but the Chinese might not be eagerly willing to export such "full-scale" technologies to a close US ally.

but that's the thing, isn't it? If they were a close US ally, they wouldn't need to buy the FC-31.

 

[Akasa]

but that's the thing, isn't it? If they were a close US ally, they wouldn't need to buy the FC-31.

Yes, but that does not preclude US from pressuring the KSA to allow an American-facilitated evaluation of the aircraft, perhaps in return for other political or economic favors.

 

[That Guy]

Yes, but that does not preclude US from pressuring the KSA to allow an American-facilitated evaluation of the aircraft, perhaps in return for other political or economic favors.

It also doesn't mean that China won't put in places to protect its technology, much like the US does.

 

[grey boy 2]

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

Good point, but I'd argue that such efforts will take a lot long after the FC-31 is available for export.

For the Arabs, the "Arab specific F-35" would be a watered down version, unable to compete with the Israeli F-35s; if China can offer a fully capable fighter, that isn't watered down, and can effectively challenge the F-35, it has a much higher chance of export success.

Unfortuantely, the world doesnt work that way.

The only way of getting 'non-watered down' systems is to co-develop it and doing so requires financial contribution to the program.

So does these countries have the $$$?

 

[That Guy]

Unfortuantely, the world doesnt work that way.

The only way of getting 'non-watered down' systems is to co-develop it and doing so requires financial contribution to the program.

So does these countries have the $$$?

The Arab countries that would be interested, would have money for such a thing. KSA and UAE in particular would be willing to spend money on developing such a fighter, if it was guaranteed to be on par with the F-35, unfortunately for China, the Arabs are skeptical.

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

The Arab countries that would be interested, would have money for such a thing. KSA and UAE in particular would be willing to spend money on developing such a fighter, if it was guaranteed to be on par with the F-35, unfortunately for China, the Arabs are skeptical.

good point.

 

[Beast]

The Arab countries that would be interested, would have money for such a thing. KSA and UAE in particular would be willing to spend money on developing such a fighter, if it was guaranteed to be on par with the F-35, unfortunately for China, the Arabs are skeptical.

The Arabs is intact some of the most fore runner in buying Chinese equipment. I saw a Chinese documentary talking abt export of PLZ-45 SPG.
Arabs don't care how well reputation that company that made the weapon as long as it can passed their test trial with flying colors. In 1997, norinco is still an almost unknown companies in SPG but PLZ-45 excel outfield trial of Kuwaiti SPG bid and was selected.

Chinese military deal is usually shroud in secrecy. You may only know the deal when u see it in service.

 

[The SC]

Yes, but that does not preclude US from pressuring the KSA to allow an American-facilitated evaluation of the aircraft, perhaps in return for other political or economic favors.

Not possible, the US tried (insisted) to visit the _Chinese_missie bases in SA, and te request was rejected, .

 

[UKBengali]

Good point, but I'd argue that such efforts will take a lot long after the FC-31 is available for export.

For the Arabs, the "Arab specific F-35" would be a watered down version, unable to compete with the Israeli F-35s; if China can offer a fully capable fighter, that isn't watered down, and can effectively challenge the F-35, it has a much higher chance of export success.

What makes you think that the production version
of J-31 wont be superior to F-35? F-35 is not the most
maneuverable, cannot supercruise and is less stealthy than it could have been.

 

[randomradio]

What makes you think that the production version
of J-31 wont be superior to F-35? F-35 is not the most
maneuverable, cannot supercruise and is less stealthy than it could have been.

The F-35 is more stealthy than the F-22.

 

[IblinI]

Because a copy cannot exceed the original without compromise

nice nice nice

 

[Deino]

Because a copy cannot exceed the original without compromise

Sorry to say so, but either was posted with sarcasm or irony and not market with a smily as such or it is one of the most stupid posts here since weeks ; similar stupid like the endless debates over there at the Key-Publishing forum on if the J-20 is a clone of the Mikoyan MFI 1.44 + elements stolen from the F-22 and F-35.

You are surely correct that a copy is never as good as the original, but speaking of copying I think most here which are stating such "easy explanations" simply not have any clue on designing, building and manufacturing an aircraft.

If copying would be so easy there would surely be much more copies flying around ...

Just look at the number of engines, the wing geometry, the tail ... but You say it's a copy ??

As such to tell the FC-31 a F-35-copy only shows one thing: a general lack of understanding or will to understand !

Deino

 

[Deino]

Proof that the J-31 is a copy of the F-35 please

Please do not feed the troolls

 

[Ali Zadi]

Chill people it was a tongue in cheek "Sarcastic" response because people say the same if I was serious would have backed with some data/facts