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In an interview to ThePrint, SAAB India CMD Ola Rignell highlights efficiency of Gripen, its offer to India, & the issues around its sales to Pakistan.
SNEHESH ALEX PHILIP 30 September, 2019 12:46 pm IST
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A Saab AB Gripen E smart fighter aircraft on display during the Aero India air show at Air Force Station Yelahanka in Bengaluru in February, 2019 | Karen Dias | Bloomberg

New Delhi: As India looks to acquire 114 new medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) to shore up its depleting strength, Swedish defence major SAAB has pitched for a complete Transfer of Technology (TOT) and local production of its Gripen fighter jet at “half” the cost of French alternative Rafale.

SAAB India’s chairman and managing director (CMD) Ola Rignell made the cost claims in an interview to ThePrint, but added that he wouldn’t be surprised if India went in for additional 36 Rafale fighters in the coming years, circumventing the ongoing process to acquire new jets in larger numbers.

“India bought 36 Rafale fighter jets from France off the shelf. SAAB and Brazil also signed a contract in 2015 for the sale and local manufacturing of 36 Gripen. The cost was half of what the value of the Indian deal was,” said Rignell, referring to Brazil’s $4.68 billion deal with SAAB to manufacture the Gripen locally.


“We are setting up an entire aviation ecosystem in Brazil. And the experience and knowledge that Brazil is gaining from this manufacturing is being used by them to design their indigenous fighter aircraft,” the SAAB India CMD said.

In 2012, EADS’s Eurofighter and Dassault Aviation’s Rafale had emerged as the winner of the 2007 MMRCA bid, with the latter being the lowest bidder. But the contract negotiations got stuck over prices. Three years later, the Modi government cancelled the protracted talks and decided to buy 36 Rafale fighters in fly-away condition in a €7.87 billion deal.

Now, France is offering another 36 Rafale fighter jets in a government-to-government deal. But these numbers will not suffice in view of the Indian Air Force (IAF)’s MMRCA requirements.

During the interview last week, Rignell spoke about what the company is offering to India, his expectations, and the issue surrounding its sales to Pakistan.


‘Gripen cheaper than Rafale’
Speaking to ThePrint, Ola Rignell highlighted the efficiency of SAAB’s single-engine multirole fighter aircraft vis-à-vis the Rafale, which is being called a game changer for the IAF in the region due to its weapons package.

Gripen has the same weapons package as Rafale including the Meteor air-to-air missile, said Rignell.

“All NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organisation) missiles are integrated with the Gripen. The only one which is missing is SCALP because it is a French missile. But if India wants, we can integrate the SCALP also though Gripen already has a substitute,” said Rignell.

He pointed out that European missile manufacturer MBDA, which makes both Meteor and SCALP, actually found Gripen as the most mature jet to test their missiles on.

“MBDA ‘test beded’ the Meteor on a Gripen. They found the Gripen to be the most mature. Eighty per cent of Meteor firing tests took place from a Gripen,” he said.

Rignell added that Gripen will always be cheaper in comparison to Rafale in life cycle costs as well because of its single-engine build.


‘Would not be surprised’
SAAB’s India chief said the defence major is offering the best deal to the country, but he won’t be surprised if India opted to buy another 36 Rafale jet from France.

“I would not be surprised,” said Ola Rignell. But he noted that the additional 36 jets will not fulfill the IAF’s requirement.

“The original 36 Rafale was bought when the IAF needed 126 MMRCA. Now there is an RFI (Request for Information) for 114 aircraft. Additional 36 Rafale would still not fulfill what the IAF actually not just wants but needs,” he said.

India and France have already spoken about the latter’s proposal for 36 additional Rafale jets, but New Delhi hasn’t disclosed any information about such a move.

No fresh deal with Pakistan
While Saab is offering the Gripen fighters to India, it is also providing the early warning aircraft system to Pakistan — an issue that has upset the IAF.

Pakistan used the SAAB-manufactured early warning aircraft system to coordinate its attack on an Indian military installation in Jammu and Kashmir a day after the Balakot strike earlier in February.

During his visit to Sweden in June this year, Air Chief Marshal B.S. Dhanoa had expressed his displeasure with the defence major for supplying Pakistan with early warning systems and also offering Gripen fighters to India.

New Delhi is of the view that it will be difficult to do business with a country that also arms the enemy.

In a bid to pacify the IAF, Ola Rignell persisted that SAAB is not selling any new products to Pakistan.

He also pointed out that every contender has dealt with Pakistan, and other assets were also used in the post-Balakot action.

Pakistan had used French fighters Mirage as well American F-16s.

However, Rignell also said regarding future sales to Pakistan, that the Swedish government decides on such matters entirely and not the company.

“As far as I know, we are not selling any new products to that country (Pakistan). There is an old order and we are fulfilling our contract obligation,” Rignell said.

"The Pakistan Air Force had ordered three new SAAB 2000 early warning aircraft in 2017 to supplement the ones that were destroyed in a terror attack on Minhas air base five years before that", Rignell added

He also said he was part of the meeting in Sweden when Dhanoa raised the issue and this is exactly what he had told him as well.

“We are trying to sell the latest AWACS (Airborne Warning and Control System) — Golden Eye — to India. We have sold them to UAE. Although India is already working on its indigenous systems,” he said.

India operates the IL76 ‘Phalcon’ AWACS as well as the Embraer ‘Netra’ early warning aircraft.

https://theprint.in/defence/saab-wa...t-full-tech-transfer-local-production/298778/
 
In a bid to pacify the IAF, Ola Rignell persisted that SAAB is not selling any new products to Pakistan.
If SAAB abides by it's words, we can give them contracts worth $1.6 billion.

So it will be win-win for both.
 
I have never seen a PAF aircheif or any GoP official complain about India getting S400 , Su30 Mki and Rafale. Kind of tells you what the pecking order is with respect to the two Airforces.
If they are trying to bring you down it means you are above them.
 
If SAAB abides by it's words, we can give them contracts worth $1.6 billion.

So it will be win-win for both.
I think , if you look at objectively .. He told you that swedish government decides that , not the company. It just makes the products to sell.

You can complain to company all you want but it is the swedish government that is going to approve the order or not.

You guys tried this randi rona with US and got nothing in return.
 
Swedes are another victim of India's Tender warfare against Pakistan. i think there is realization in Saab that they will never get any meaningful deal from bharatis, hence they decided to go on with Next Saab deal.

As for Pakistan, Airborne Radar, EW, ECM assets are too sensitive and 3rd parties like Saab cannot be trusted. we should strive for our own indigenous AEW&CS with allies Chinese and Turkish cooperation and start planning for it.
 
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If SAAB abides by it's words, we can give them contracts worth $1.6 billion.

So it will be win-win for both.

Food for thought for you, if you know how to use your brain cells.
India despite using their purchasing power card against Pakistan with every major arms exporter in the world, still found itself naked with no clothes on, (Emperor has no clothes). PAF could have hit its chosen targets at will if it so desired on 27th February 2019. With India won't be able to do diddle do.
Think!!!!!!
 
In a bid to pacify the IAF, Ola Rignell persisted that SAAB is not selling any new products to Pakistan.
Shame on this Swedish company who is selling its weapons to RSS terrorist ... Pakistan should boycott and blacklist this company and find new ventures ...
 
Its all about money. Whoever has the money wins in the end. Pakistan has empty pockets pathetic economy for 25 years. We reap what we sow. We sowed seeds for humiliation since 25 years now we reap the humiliation for it .

Make money or loose everything u ever cared about.
 
While India is purchasing arms from America, Russia, Israel, France and Britain amongst others, it still gets rattled by anything minimal that Pakistan requires or purchases. We all know how the mention of 8 F-16s gave Indian nightmares. This is where you distinguish between quality and quantity.
Where India is spending billions to feel secure, perhaps it should also start negotiations with Pakistan for a possible ''Self Confidence'' package.....being neighbors, we might even provide you with some training facilities but without any Lemons or Coconuts on the premises.
 
Its all about money. Whoever has the money wins in the end. Pakistan has empty pockets pathetic economy for 25 years. We reap what we sow. We sowed seeds for humiliation since 25 years now we reap the humiliation for it .

Make money or loose everything u ever cared about.
Wrong, it’s is about better bang for the buck. You have many examples in front of you. Look at the amount of money that was spent by Saddam or Gadaffi etc. Just money is not enough especially in context of countries like India. India with its size, level of industrialization and education should be ashamed of importing weapons as it does.

As for humiliation is concerned ask Abhinandan about that or the IAF pilots who landed their undamaged Gnats or Ouragans in Pakistan. Our Museums are full of such Indian trophies.

Also history Is replete with examples where poor nations have overwhelmed richer nations including Muslim history. You must be Indians as only Indians can say what you did.

This the difference between you and us.
 
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If SAAB abides by it's words, we can give them contracts worth $1.6 billion.

So it will be win-win for both.

No where in any of it did they say that they won't be selling any products to Pakistan at all. They said, that at the moment no new products are being sold to that country, and he explicitly stated that the power to decide lies with the Government and not the company.

In simpler words, there is no bar that he knows of, and its not in the company's hands, and that all he knows is that no product at the moment is being sold to Pakistan. But the older contracts still in place are being fulfilled.
 
Maybe India should request Pakistan, to protect them from Pakistan Air force, I know our Government is Generous we can and will provide some sort of Security to these Insecure Bharti's .
 
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