S-400 purchase will restrict Turkey's access to NATO technology, US official says

[Muhammed45]

Huh? The S-400 is just a missile, the part that you think will find the F-35 is the radar.
However Russian radars couldn't even detect subsonic missiles like the Tomahawk.

A simple Soviet made 3d radar detected and shot down a so called stealth fighter F-117

Let alone Russian radars like Nebo which can detect all of stealth fighter jets.

The radar that helped Iran to capture USA's most advanced stealth drone RQ-170, was an Iranian-Russian made radar.

S-400 : Enjoy

 

[Beny Karachun]

I don't "imlpy" anything - it is a fact that Russian toys have spanked the bottoms of your buddies in Syria.

Only according to the Russian toy manufacturer, which claimed they shot down an American F-22 and an Israeli F-35, and making a conspiracy theory that claims Israel and the US are covering those "incidents" that never happened up.

 

[BHarwana]

Turks should go for S-400. This is nothing except usual scare mogering from Uncle Sam.

Even if the Turks dont by the S-400, they will still face difficulties in getting EU technologies (just look at how they have played aganist Turkey in getting it into EU).

Turkey made the right choice, NATO was discriminating Turkey for being a Muslim country. USA and Europe wants puppets not allies.

 

[Dil Pakistan]

Only according to the Russian toy manufacturer, which claimed they shot down an American F-22 and an Israeli F-35, and making a conspiracy theory that claims Israel and the US are covering those "incidents" that never happened up.

And you have conveniently missed even bigger headlines across all Europe: "ASSAD HAS WON THE WAR AGAINST ISIS ...with Russia's help".

 

[Beny Karachun]

A simple Soviet made 3d radar detected and shot down a so called stealth fighter F-117

Let alone Russian radars like Nebo which can detect all of stealth fighter jets.

The radar that helped Iran to capture USA's most advanced stealth drone RQ-170, was an Iranian-Russian made radar.

S-400 : Enjoy

A single F-117 bomber from 1983 with the earliest stealth technology was shot down in a predictable bombing run, while it had no Missile Approach Warning System or any way to fight off the missile, with it's weapons bay open, was shot down. If it was so easy and not a mere cooincidence why only one out of the dozens of the F-117s was shot down?

Russian radars can't even detect a Tomahawk missile.

The RQ-170 has crashed, Russia's radar was useless.

Your picture means nothing to me.

And you have conveniently missed even bigger headlines across all Europe: "ASSAD HAS WON THE WAR AGAINST ISIS ...with Russia's help".

And now the Russians are blaming the US for helping ISIS.

 

[Trango Towers]

Turkey once has its 5th generation aircraft and engine technology it wont need NATO which supports the enemies of turkey aka the Kurds. Also NATO buses out isis2 from raqqa as BBC has just reported. Turkey is strong militarily a d economically. It like Pakistan cannot be ignored. So NATO can st what it like turkey will do what is best for turkey

 

[Beny Karachun]

Turkey once has its 5th generation aircraft and engine technology it wont need NATO which supports the enemies of turkey aka the Kurds. Also NATO buses out isis2 from raqqa as BBC has just reported. Turkey is strong militarily a d economically. It like Pakistan cannot be ignored. So NATO can st what it like turkey will do what is best for turkey

Don't count your chickens before they hatch out of their eggs.

 

[cloud4000]

Turkey once has its 5th generation aircraft and engine technology it wont need NATO which supports the enemies of turkey aka the Kurds. Also NATO buses out isis2 from raqqa as BBC has just reported. Turkey is strong militarily a d economically. It like Pakistan cannot be ignored. So NATO can st what it like turkey will do what is best for turkey

How do you think fighters join ISIS? They transited through Turkey. Plus, it's well within Turkey's interest to back ISIS, especially if it was fighting Kurdish groups in Syria.

 

[Trango Towers]

How do you think fighters join ISIS? They transited through Turkey. Plus, it's well within Turkey's interest to back ISIS, especially if it was fighting Kurdish groups in Syria.

You missed the point. Never mind bro

Don't count your chickens before they hatch out of their eggs.

Jewish chickens will get strung by their necks.

 

[cloud4000]

You missed the point. Never mind bro

Then make your point clearer, hence my post.

 

[Pax Ottomana]

Turkey isn't going to be integrating S-400 to the NATO radar/missile network. They will be used as independent, stand-alone point defense systems to meet Turkey's immediate need for anti-ballistic defense for large cities.

Turkey has also signed an agreement with Eurosam, maker of the Aster-30 missiles, to co-produce an indigenous/NATO-compliant system to be used separately from the S-400. THAT can/will be integrated with NATO.

US threats against Turkey using the F-35 is unlawful, let alone being the opposite of ally-like, and if there are any problems with the deliveries, Turkey can take the US to court as per the WTO charter and seek a lot of money in compensation.

US has become an unreliable partner/ally for not just Turkey, but even its more traditional allies in Europe. That's why the Europeans (spearheaded by Germany and France) are forming their own "EU Army" as an alternative to the clown show called NATO.

 

[Trango Towers]

Turkey isn't going to be integrating S-400 to the NATO radar/missile network. They will be used as independent, stand-alone point defense systems to meet Turkey's immediate need for anti-ballistic defense for large cities.

Turkey has also signed an agreement with Eurosam, maker of the Aster-30 missiles, to co-produce an indigenous/NATO-compliant system to be used separately from the S-400. THAT can/will be integrated with NATO.

US threats against Turkey using the F-35 is unlawful, let alone being the opposite of ally-like, and if there are any problems with the deliveries, Turkey can take the US to court as per the WTO charter and seek a lot of money in compensation.

US has become an unreliable partner/ally for not just Turkey, but even its more traditional allies in Europe. That's why the Europeans (spearheaded by Germany and France) are forming their own "EU Army" as an alternative to the clown show called NATO.

Yet the double standard is that they allowed Greece to buy the s300

 

[cloud4000]

It was clear enough not my fault you can't analyse. And try not to be rude as that will only result in rudeness back

Not my fault your post was so convoluted, which makes analysis impossible, hence my post.

 

[Mucahit]

Our so-called NATO "allies" refuse to give us even a basic weaponry like JAVELİN let alone advanced air defense systems but complain when Turkey turns to other alternatives...

Turkey's current YILDIRIM missile system was developed from a Chinese missile after it was bought from them in 1998 because once again the "allies" refused to give Turkey anything.

All they offer to Turkey right now is Patriots which is pretty f*cking outdated and useless without integrating it with other similar systems.

 

[Trango Towers]

Not my fault your post was so convoluted, which makes analysis impossible, hence my post.

Ok just have a nice day.