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S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems delivery to India can begin in 2020

As far as I remember China is not MTCR member they how they able to acquire S-400?
 
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looks like my source is right again MKIs will be upgraded with israeli and french help not russian this time only the engines would be russian

Can you list out your source based Info s ?
 
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This is awesome news...but are these the frigates initially meant for Russian navy??
 
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They were, only their fight with Ukraine have left them with no Engines. That is where we step in and buy the design (hopefully).
The 3 Nos. Frigates for the RuN is already being fitted with an alternative Ru engine . These 4 Nos. for the IN will a new batch with First 2 Nos. built in Russia and the next 2 Nos. being built in India
 
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Kamov 226T: An air ambulance that became the cure for IAF and army’s helicopter woes Published October 15, 2016
SOURCE : INDIA TODAY
In what is being seen as an important milestone in addressing a long-awaited requirement of the armed forces, India and Russia will ink a joint venture to manufacture 200 helicopters in India for the Indian Army (IA) and Indian Air Force (IAF). This will be done at the sidelines of the BRICS summit in Goa where India and Russia will hold their annual, bilateral summit. The Kamov-226T, a twin-engine helicopter, born out of Russian engineering and French engine power, is the chosen platform. The project, said to cost nearly US USD 1 billion though an official figure is yet to be declared, will be the first major defence venture under government’s ‘Make in India’ programme. Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar and senior ministry officials will be present. INTER GOVERNMENT AGREEMENT SIGNED LAST DECEMBER Following up on an Inter Government Agreement on ‘Cooperation in the field of Helicopter Engineering’ signed in Moscow during Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s visit last December, a firm Indo-Russian Helicopters Private Limited will be created to execute the task. The firm will witness the Russian government firm Rostec corporation have a 49.5 per cent stake and Defence Ministry’s Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) have a 50.5 per cent stake. “The manufacturing will take place either at HAL’s helicopter complex in Bengaluru or the upcoming facility near Bengaluru at a place called Tumkuru,” said an official. While about 40 helicopters will be procured ‘off the shelf’ from the original maker of the Kamov-226T i.e Russian Helicopters, the remaining will be made in India over a period of 8-10 years. “Apart from production, the plan also includes setting up repair and maintenance facilities to provide faster support to the armed forces,” said an official. It isn’t unusual for the armed forces to red flag the poor maintenance support extended by their Russian suppliers. REQUIREMENT OF 400 HELICOPTERS Explaining the origin of the deal, Air Vice Marshal Manmohan Bahadur (retd), himself an accomplished helicopter pilot said, “Among the three defence services and the Coast Guard, there is a requirement of about 400 helicopters. That initial procurement of 400 choppers has now been broken up into two wherein we induct 200 Kamov-226Ts and 200 Light Utility Helicopter (LUH) which the HAL is designing and building.” Over the next decade, it is expected that the Kamov-226T and LUH will together replace the Cheetah and Chetak helicopters which are of French origin but were subsequently made in India by the HAL. Interestingly, even though Indian armed forces operate hundreds of Russian helicopters like the Mi8, Mi17 1V, Mi17 V5, Kamov 28, Kamov 31, never have the Russians allowed their manufacturing in India. “This is the first time that is taking place. We will have to see how this move pans out and what benefits accrue to us. We have had a long association with the French helicopters however this choice of the Kamov-226T represents to me a larger strategic choice India has made to balance our ties with Russia,” said Bahadur. KAMOV-226T UNDERWENT TESTS ON INDIAN TERRAIN Kamov-226T is not new to India. The Russian Helicopters portal mentions how the helicopter had ‘previously participated successfully in the Light Utility Helicopter tender announced by India’s Defence Ministry’. While Russia had not certified the chopper till March 2015, it had already undergone tests ‘amid India’s mountainous terrain and hot climate’ which ‘enabled it to demonstrate its considerable advantages over the competition produced by western companies’. With a maximum speed of 250 kmph, the Kamov-226T can fly up to an altitude of over 18000 feet with loads nearing 4 tonnes. Along with two pilots, it can take seven passengers. It is powered by two French Arrius 2G1 Turbomeca engines which the armed forces in India believes will ensure a much better performance. Introduced as a ambulance helicopter, the Kamov-226T has two rotor blades on top of each other and rotating in opposite directions. While it is being inducted in the Russian Air Force in much smaller numbers, there is an effort to sell the chopper to Iran and Japan. However, in terms of numbers, with at least 200, India is likely to emerge as the single largest operator of the Kamov-226T. Posted in India

idrw.org . Read more at India No 1 Defence News Website , Kindly don't paste our work in other websites http://idrw.org/kamov-226t-an-air-ambulance-that-became-the-cure-for-iaf-and-armys-helicopter-woes/ .
 
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Do you have a link that says the earlier ships were given replacement engines that were compatible with their transmission ?
1) These are turbine engines mated to gearbox (transmission) both mechanical components - so where is the question of compatibility comes in?

2) With The GOI make in india program - taking already built hulls will not suit this program!
 
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It was supposed to be powered by Ukrainian gas turbine engine. which was designed to be mated with a Russian gear box.

Russia was looking to sell the 3 hulls so probably India asked for the design as part of the deal to transfer to some private shipyard.

So a Russian Turbine Can't be mated to a Russian Gear Box?

+ u fail to read the OP , which clearly states the Current report regarding the frigates ie

"The deal for four Admiral Grigorovich-class (Project 11356) guided-missile stealth frigates will involve the direct supply of two vessels from Russia while another two will be made in India. The shipyard for making these frigates in India will be chosen by a competitive process, sources said."

http://indianexpress.com/article/in...efence-deals-brics-summit-modi-putin-3081666/
 
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Lots of shopping coming up..
Next 18 months will see an insane amount to be spent...
We have as compared to plan just spent with today so called MOUs also less than 10% of the intended stuff..
Wait for indian army buys.. as well as cyber and space warfare assets acquisition and approvals..
Fgfa?any chance for su34
 
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what about israeli awacks and the spike deal and the spyder deal and spice and lithing 5 deals?
 
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Why do we buy Russian maal? Russian stuff is ugly, ill constructed, and a generation behind US tech.
i know its ugly right? i have a great idea. tell mr modi or who ever is in charge there and tell them to sprinkle some glitter on russain kit so that they look bad a$$ and look the part too.
 
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It was supposed to be powered by Ukrainian gas turbine engine. which was designed to be mated with a Russian gear box.

Russia was looking to sell the 3 hulls so probably India asked for the design as part of the deal to transfer to some private shipyard.

Of the 6 initially planned , Russia had the systems from Ukraine for first three, and they will now be a part of BSF, Russian Navy.

Out of other 3, 2 were laid , while work on last has not started.

The No4, has been launched and No5 under construction.

These two will be delivered from Russia while another 2 will be built in house.
 
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