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At this time of darkness, it is so refreshing and pleasant to see that the peace loving people of Israel, who by the way have never committed atrocities against the citizens of their democratic country based on religion or ethnicity, are condemning the occupation of Ukraine by the evil Russians. It just shows how peaceful and wonderful these righteous settlers are.
 
I'm so glad people are waking up to all these double standards. It astounds me that the liberal elite in many countries, including Muslim countries, still fall for Western tropes.
WE should not fall for Russian tropes either.

WE should be evidence-driven, and try to fact-check politically-motivated narratives of all parties.

See below.

You got to love Zelensky's Neo-Nazi gang

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Such a fine group of gentlemen. ISIS is bad when it attacks Europe, it's good when it attacks Syria. Al-Qaeda is good when they fight against the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, they're bad when they attack the United States. Nazism is bad when they kill Jews, it's good when they kill Russians and Muslims. I think you get the idea.
Neo-Nazim is a matter of concern (agreed) but the narrative surrounding it is overblown:

However, as per Al Jazeera, it only has 900 members, so it's still considered a fringe element in the army. It was founded eight years ago by Andriy Biletsky from the ultra-nationalist Patriot of Ukraine gang and the neo-Nazi Social National Assembly group; both groups were accused of engaging in neo-Nazi ideals, and the latter is known to have attacked minority groups in Ukraine.


Details in following link:


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What about (humanitarian) Russian Wagner group?

The Wagner Group, a private military company backed by Kremlin, has built a reputation for its brutality. In 2019, a disturbing video surfaced showing four Russian-speaking men in military fatigues surrounding a man lying on the ground. They proceeded to break his legs with a sledgehammer, crushed his chest, and hacked off his hands, his head, before setting the corpse on fire. The victim was identified as Hamadi Bouta, a deserter from the Syrian army. He was tortured to death by the Wagner group, whose mercenaries are now said to be tasked with killing President Zelenskyy.


That is but one example of how Russian Wagner group handles its subjects.

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The Al-Qaeda Network was founded by Osama Bin Laden in 1988.

USA confronted and dismantled Al-Qaeda Network in the Af-Pak region with support of Pakistan after 9/11. There is ample information about this development in following book:


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NATO shattered ISIS movement in Syria (Operation Inherent Resolve)



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Russian FM says that so-called West had been blind, even accomplice, to the crimes committed by Ukraine:


It is a payback for 8 years of constant shelling of Donbass people.
 
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Neo-Nazim is a matter of concern (agreed) but the narrative surrounding it is overblown:

However, as per Al Jazeera, it only has 900 members, so it's still considered a fringe element in the army. It was founded eight years ago by Andriy Biletsky from the ultra-nationalist Patriot of Ukraine gang and the neo-Nazi Social National Assembly group; both groups were accused of engaging in neo-Nazi ideals, and the latter is known to have attacked minority groups in Ukraine.
And it doesn't bother you that the Ukrainians do not let Indians and Africans to get on the trains and escape the war zones?

Would you blame that on just 900 people as well?
 
WE should not fall for Russian tropes either.

WE should be evidence-driven, and try to fact-check politically-motivated narratives of all parties.

See below.


Neo-Nazim is a matter of concern (agreed) but the narrative surrounding it is overblown:

However, as per Al Jazeera, it only has 900 members, so it's still considered a fringe element in the army. It was founded eight years ago by Andriy Biletsky from the ultra-nationalist Patriot of Ukraine gang and the neo-Nazi Social National Assembly group; both groups were accused of engaging in neo-Nazi ideals, and the latter is known to have attacked minority groups in Ukraine.


Details in following link:


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What about (humanitarian) Russian Wagner group?

The Wagner Group, a private military company backed by Kremlin, has built a reputation for its brutality. In 2019, a disturbing video surfaced showing four Russian-speaking men in military fatigues surrounding a man lying on the ground. They proceeded to break his legs with a sledgehammer, crushed his chest, and hacked off his hands, his head, before setting the corpse on fire. The victim was identified as Hamadi Bouta, a deserter from the Syrian army. He was tortured to death by the Wagner group, whose mercenaries are now said to be tasked with killing President Zelenskyy.


That is but one example of how Russian Wagner group handles its subjects.

- - - - -

The Al-Qaeda Network was founded by Osama Bin Laden in 1988.

USA confronted and dismantled Al-Qaeda Network in the Af-Pak region with support of Pakistan after 9/11. There is ample information about this development in following book:


- - - - -

NATO shattered ISIS movement in Syria (Operation Inherent Resolve)



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Propaganda

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Second this. 👍👏
 

These are normal military responses in the harsh situation Russia currently faces. When we hear rumors of NATO countries being ready to supply advanced hardware like fighter jet, the Russians are forced to make strategic defensive countermeasures.

Ukraine as future NATO member is a existential threat to Russia. OTOH Ukraine NOT becoming a NATO member is NOT a existential threat for NATO members.
 
And it doesn't bother you that the Ukrainians do not let Indians and Africans to get on the train and escape the war zones?

Would you blame that on just 900 people as well?
That is unfortunate and I do not condone such actions in person. The problem is underlined below:

The students, using Twitter and other social media platforms, have been pleading with their governments for help to escape the war-hit nation. The students say they have been prevented from crossing to Poland due to a “Ukrainians first” policy.


I am not sure what the Ukrainian First Policy is about.
 
That is unfortunate and I do not condone such actions in person. The problem is underlined below:

The students, using Twitter and other social media platforms, have been pleading with their governments for help to escape the war-hit nation. The students say they have been prevented from crossing to Poland due to a “Ukrainians first” policy.


I am not sure what the Ukrainian First Policy is about.
Well, it is rather a European people first policy.
Immigrants of European origin in Ukraine have not faced a similar issue.
They are probably not even asked to prove that they're Ukrainian.

And I'm not going to mention the obvious that even the Ukrainian First policy is wrong as well. Ensuring the safety of all foreigners in Ukraine is an obligation of Ukraine as a state, which it has failed to observe repeatedly by discriminatory laws like that since the beginning of the conflict.
 
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