Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments

[DF41]

US empire crumbling before our eyes.

Western regime/media selected "president of venezuela" (or the "international community" as they call themselves)

attacked and thrown out of a restaurant by furious venezuelans. This guy colloborated with the CIA to impose crippling economic warfare on the venezuelan people and coup his way into power with american muscle.

Zelensky faces a similar future, once the ukrainian people see he sacrificed their entire country to enrich his family, and advance western geopolitical aims.

What really grotesque was that NED spun that in the MSM that he was swarmed by crowd of adoring fans as if
he a top of pop singer tearing his shirt for souveniers.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1536377452829761537

 

[wahhab0202]

Well, tell me what Afghanistan can be used for then, and if so, as I said at the end, if we were to use it as a springboard to attack someone, would it be better off if we just annex the thing, I mean we have taken complete control of the country. There aren't really anyone or anything to stop us from stationing troop in Afghanistan permanently and start calling Afghan "American"

As for natural resource, again, we have 20 years in that place literally controlling anything and everything. So tell me why of the 5 big mine in Afghan, 4 belong to China and 1 belong to India??

And finally, it's not about Afghan going to Harvard or Oxford. It's about letting Afghan be what they want to be.

Off course it is not about Afghanistan going to Harvard or Oxford, thanks for agreeing with me. But for letting Afghan to be what they want to be, are sure abut that? I mean, US burn like 2 trillions of dollar in the process. Is it for letting Afghan to chose what they want to be??

 

[jhungary]

Off course it is not about Afghanistan going to Harvard or Oxford, thanks for agreeing with me. But for letting Afghan to be what they want to be, are sure abut that? I mean, US burn like 2 trillions of dollar in the process. Is it for letting Afghan to chose what they want to be??

Again, otherwise we would have force Afghan government hand and turn over everything...And again, we have 20 years to do that, if we want to suck everything out, 20 years is more than enough. I mean look at Russia, taking part of Ukraine for over 100 days, already stolen millions tons of grain, think about what 20 years can do, if we want to do it?

Did we do that? no.

 

[mike2000 is back]

It is Murica NATO and Murica running doggies that think Russia is harmless teddy bear.

Of course I know its not a cute harmless Teddy bear. I was just saying some members on here seem to have taken Russian propaganda even more than Russian themselves.lol and they act like Russia is some an innocent virgin boy that can do and has never done any harm to anyone..lol
In fact I agree that they are far from being an innocent victim, most times they have been the aggressors and an expansionist power historicallyto this day. So I don't understand why some members act like they are innocent. In fact I'm not even blaming Russia for being that way, since its up to them to protect their interests and take more from other countries if they have the capabilities (nothing wrong in that geopolitically speaking, but morally yes its another thing altogether). I'm just making a point that some people on here seem to misjudge the country as an innocent victim mostly due to their anti western views. Lol

In fact if not for Russia's expansionist tendencies. MONGOLIA will still be part of China today and the mongols in Mongolia won't be so anti China the way they are today( it was mostly due to soviet propaganda, to keep them under soviet influence away from China), same with outer manchuria which will still be part of China, In effect China almost lost Xinjiang to Russia again due to moscow's expansionist policies, luckily for China the KMT still had some power/militray capabilities to stop it in the nick of time, if not even Xinjiang will not be Chinese today but Russian.

Soviet invasion of Xinjiang

The Soviet invasion of Xinjiang was a military campaign in the Chinese northwestern region of Xinjiang in 1934. White Russian forces assisted the Soviet Red Army.[3] In 1934, Ma Zhongying's Chinese Muslim troops, supported by the Kuomintang government of the Republic of China were on the verge...

military-history.fandom.com

As they say its good to know history , so as not to be ignorant., but seems some people don't understand this simple thing.

Funny thing here is that, China has lost more teriritory to Russias expansionist policies more than they have lost to any country else in the world. So Russia has actually caused more long lasting damage to the country than even Japan that's the irony of it all. Lol i guess thats the reason both sides have always been wary of each other to this day and have still not forged an official allinace despite all the talks and even despite the heavy pressure from the U.S on both.
Yes Russia is a cute innocent Teddy bear.

 

[mike2000 is back]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1536290527460700161

The so called bear hasn't even achieved air superiority against Ukraine after 4 months of war,lost its flagship to a country that doesn't have a navy,couldn't achieve minor objectives on the ground yet some believe they could challenge NATO. NATO would totally erase those drunkards,the level of destruction Russians have witnessed in Ukraine is nothing compared to what NATO could do to them.

Well, I agree that Russias performance in Ukraine has been rather appalling and poor. Which I don't think is all that surprising. Afterall Russia is not the Soviet Union , they have long fallen from their soviet heyday, so obviously they don't don't those capabilities they had before.
However, even so they still have numerical and industrial superiority over Ukriane. So they will still emerge victorious at the end despite far heavier losses and destruction if western powers keep taking a soft approach instead of arming Ukriane with the required weapons they need to defend themselves. In fact western response has been rather useless and dismal. We have barely orividex Ukraine with any weapons lethal needed to protect themselves . Just look at our military and financial support to the Mujahideen resistance in Afghanistan which ran into the tens of billions of dollars (some claims over a 100billion dollars was spent ) and massive sophisticated arm's and equipments given to Afghan resistance through Pakistan and western military advisors/trainers provided. Compared it to Ukraine is like comparing an ocean with a little stream. Lol
We have left Ukraine to its own device , that's the simple fact.
Even so Russia is still struggling, I can only imagine how they will fare if we supported Ukraine like Afghanistan. Russia is indeed not the Russia of the 70s . That's one thing this conflict proved.

 

[ZeGerman]

Again, otherwise we would have force Afghan government hand and turn over everything...And again, we have 20 years to do that, if we want to suck everything out, 20 years is more than enough. I mean look at Russia, taking part of Ukraine for over 100 days, already stolen millions tons of grain, think about what 20 years can do, if we want to do it?

Did we do that? no.

“The invasion's aims were to dismantle al-Qaeda, which had executed the September 11 attacks, and to deny it a safe base of operations in Afghanistan by removing the Taliban government from power.”

The initial invasion did succeed in these though the taliban was able to return and contest power in certain areas. However the taliban also stepped away from supporting international terrorists.

The main fuckup was that there was no exit plan. That an extra goal was introduced in “nation building” afghanistan into a pro-western democratic government.

But i do not know why so many pakistanis are jumping up and down about a so called “humililiating military defeat” while the coalition never lost a military engagement…and simply lost patience hand holding ANA.

Eventually the afghans have to “help themselves” and stand on their own feet.
Turns out they did not want to put up a fight and instead tolerate taliban regime rule. So be it. Clash of cultures and something to keep in mind when dealing with the middle east.

 

[jhungary]

“The invasion's aims were to dismantle al-Qaeda, which had executed the September 11 attacks, and to deny it a safe base of operations in Afghanistan by removing the Taliban government from power.”

The initial invasion did succeed in these though the taliban was able to return and contest power in certain areas. However the taliban also stepped away from supporting international terrorists.

The main fuckup was that there was no exit plan. That an extra goal was introduced in “nation building” afghanistan into a pro-western democratic government.

But i do not know why so many pakistanis are jumping up and down about a so called “humililiating military defeat” while the coalition never lost a military engagement…and simply lost patience hand holding ANA.

Eventually the afghans have to “help themselves” and stand on their own feet.
Turns out they did not want to put up a fight and instead tolerate taliban regime rule. So be it. Clash of cultures and something to keep in mind when dealing with the middle east.

Well, as I said

You have to be stupid to underestimate US Military capability..........on the other hand, I cannot say the same thing to our ability to make good policy.

Not a single country other than US have had and have the ability to start an expeditionary war in the last 100 years. All wars since 1920 were fought locally. Even with WW2, the allied only been able to attack North Africa (thus starting an expeditionary war) after US come into the picture, before that, it's all localised affair.

And expeditionary warfare is just one part of the US military war making capability........

 

[Apollon]

Proof please? Let me confirm your facts before i engage with you.

Russia pulled out of entire north Ukraine

To the pakistani here who laugh and mock...Europe defending Ukraine crushs Pakistan energy infrastructure.

Pakistan's 12-Hour Blackouts Linked To A Massive Shift In Europe

Europe's campaign to quit Russian fuel is designed to punish Moscow for its invasion of Ukraine. It's also wreaking havoc thousands of miles away from the conflict, plunging Pakistan into darkness.

www.ndtv.com

 

[jamahir]

The US chose to leave on its own accord, and having already achieved its main objective of destroying Al Qaeda.

The Taliban won, because the Afghan people refuse to fight for their country. Its that simple. The US won't hold their hands forever.

Yes, USA left Afghanistan on its own accord after half-heartedly fighting the Taliban for all those years. USA government didn't have any problem at all with the Taliban government of 1996-2001 even though Taliban was committing atrocities yet USA / NATO didn't initiate regime change there. However USA government / NATO manufactured atrocities in Libya and Syria in 2011 to initiate regime change because NATO didn't like Libya and Syria to continue to be Socialist-Communist societies, especially Muslim-majority ones.

The BJP government in India, led by the dictator Modi, which is ruling India since 2014 is a fascist one whose ideological elements have committed many atrocities like lynchings of Muslims and Dalit Hindus, and the BJP ruling in the center and some states have committed atrocities and human rights violations and continue the Indian 3000-year-old most extreme Capitalist socio-economic system in human history originating with the settling down of the Hindutvadis in India. Some of the recent atrocities :

Victims of Hindutvadi terrorism and anti-humanity : An elderly man and a professor

These are two very recent incidents in India but this can be a mega thread but if you make contributions about new incidents please be rational, not religious extremist yourself and speak on a general pan-human level, something that can be understood by every human anywhere on Earth. Incident...

defence.pk

Yet why doesn't NATO speak for regime change in India ?

All these years in Afghanistan the USA military was collaborating with the Taliban in growing opium which would be sold by CIA in USA and other markets. Then the USA military was taking Taliban fighters to the battlefields of Syria aboard US air force planes to fight their common enemy - the leftists / progressives and the rational people of the Syrian government and security forces and the rational citizens of Syria who want Bashar al Assad to stay. NATO wouldn't ever have left Afghanistan if leftists movements like the Solidarity Party of Afghanistan were somehow getting themselves into power. Since the Taliban took over the country they have been committing atrocity upon atrocity yet NATO doesn't speak for regime change there yet NATO is calling for regime change in Russia because Russia acted towards deNazification and demilitarization in Ukraine and to prevent NATO from installing nuclear weapons there. The good people are deemed evil and the evil ones are deemed good. The world has gone crazy especially since 2003 when Bush and B'liar somehow attached the name of Al Qaeda to Saddam's Socialist system.

 

[K_Bin_W]

Russia pulled out of entire north Ukraine

To the pakistani here who laugh and mock...Europe defending Ukraine crushs Pakistan energy infrastructure.

Pakistan's 12-Hour Blackouts Linked To A Massive Shift In Europe

Europe's campaign to quit Russian fuel is designed to punish Moscow for its invasion of Ukraine. It's also wreaking havoc thousands of miles away from the conflict, plunging Pakistan into darkness.

www.ndtv.com

Pak problems have nothing to do with war in Ukr, Its all about our leadership and corruption.

 

[Ali_Baba]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1536417450274996224

The liberation of Severodonetsk continues

https://twitter.com/x/status/1536367917591580672

https://twitter.com/x/status/1536386327582744583

https://twitter.com/x/status/1536355534290489344

@The SC
Do you agree with Russia that what Russia is doing is "liberation??????"

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

NATO ask Zelensky to negotiate since long time yes. But never they ask him to cede some territories before. So why now? To me you seems to be a professional military professional and I know you don't believe that Russia is loosing 1000 of soldiers each day in this conflict. In fact anybody with little common sense won't buy it.


Okay, then ask NATO to stop pushing Zelensky for negotiation and ceding territories. At least until Ukraine is landlocked without any chance to regain all the lost territories in the future.

Apparently, the West is pushing Ukraine now to "negotiate" with Russia. A question can be raised on why are they rushing now to get Zelensky to "negotiate". Perhaps they see Ukraine militarily losing. Or it could be that higher oil and gas prices at home, the lack of fertilizers and other commodities that Russians used to export, or the skyrocketing inflation are forcing the hands of the Western govts to push the Zelensky and his regime to "negotiate" with the Russians. The question is, will the Russians accept this sudden desire of "negotiations" from the West.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1536310378912784385

 

[AZMwi]

When Palestinians (who can't pronounce their name because there is no "P" in Arabic, and the etymology is the Hebrew word Paleshet which means "Invader") launch 4500 rockets against Israeli towns, for sure, IDF should bend over and let the invaders do a Shoah v.2.0...
In 1918, the census in Jewish Palestine showed only 15,000 Arabs over a population of 100k, half of these Arabs weren't even born there...
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Its pronounced falastine in arabic. Palestine is the name given by westerners. just like misr (egypt), shaam (syria) etc.

 

[Tornado23]

Russia pulled out of entire north Ukraine

To the pakistani here who laugh and mock...Europe defending Ukraine crushs Pakistan energy infrastructure.

Pakistan's 12-Hour Blackouts Linked To A Massive Shift In Europe

Europe's campaign to quit Russian fuel is designed to punish Moscow for its invasion of Ukraine. It's also wreaking havoc thousands of miles away from the conflict, plunging Pakistan into darkness.

www.ndtv.com

Indian media lol

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1536629325121847296