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Well, call it jurisdiction or whatever you want, it does not change the fact that the court cannot hear that case because it does not take side on any proceeding, again, Supreme Court only can hear matter related to the Constitution.
The case was handled in a lower court, where it was dismissed because the court decided that the plaintiff did not have any standing. The case was then brought t9 SCOTUS to determine if the plaintiff had any standing or not and the SCOTUS ruled that the lower court was correct in that the plaintiff did not have any standing.


Dude, the question is why would I have to show the ID to the employer, even the government cannot ask for my ID unless there is a probable clause or reasonable suspicion as per 4A, what rights are given to the company? 4A is a very serious amendment we follow as an American. It's not going to be chipping away that easy to just to require to show it here and there.
Anyone can ask for an ID if the reason is reasonable.

The 4th amendment.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

I would say that an employer have a right to know who he hires.

Again, why we want that to begin with? And even so, how? We aren't talking about the internet when you can provide an API instead of your detail, you either have to be able to verify who you are, which mean you need to be able to identify yourself, or it would be a moot point showing anything to anyone, I mean tell me in what way I can verify your employment status without asking information from you that you can identify yourself?




If you are requiring showing ID to the employer, it already meant YOU ARE FORCED TO HAVE ONE. Otherwise, how would I get an employment if I do not process any form of ID? Again, you can apply for an ID if you want to be it Driver License, or Passport, but whether or not you use them or whether or not you actually need to apply for them is YOUR CHOICE. Also, the SSN is designed NOT TO BE a form of ID. So even if you know my social security number it wouldn't mean shit.

Forcing people to show ID, which you may not have even if you are US Citizens, which is within your right to do so, mean forcing you to do something you don't want to do.
Noone is forcing anyone to seek employment at a certain company.

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The law may not even require anyone to show ID to the employer.
The law may say that noone is allowed to hire someone which is an illegal alien, and to prove that no illegal alien is hired.
Up to the employer to prove. This gives him a reasonable cause to ask for id, and the constitution is not violated.

The issue here is not whether or not people want the government to track Illegal, the issue is how, in a perfect world, you would stop them at the border, and you don't have illegal mixed into your community. But we aren't living in a perfect world. The problem here is, you should do your job and secure the border, not limiting my right and taken away my free will so you can do the stuff we pay you to do. You may be okay to have a piece of paper to identify you, a lot of other people, including me, don't.
”Securing the border” does not solve the problem when many become illegal aliens by overstaying their visas.
You are paying the government to do a job, and then you make it impossible for them to do that job. You are of course allowed to make that prioritization, but don’t expect to be treated seriously if you complain about illegal aliens.

You make the bed, you get to sleep in it.
 
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Today We Will Find Out What Gift Putin Will Receive On His Birthday. Military Summary For 2023.10.07

 
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The Russians Cut Main Roads On Kupiansk Direction. Military Summary And Analysis For 2023.10.07

 
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its a small percentage of $s wasted in Afghanistan and no impact to US economy took place then

Thanks for the request but if he’s brought up in this thread I’ll reply.
You really don’t know how the FCC and news networks work and labeling his followers traitors shows me you’re not capable of critical thinking. You have to be deaf and blind not to see things 45 warned about especially the Europeans has and will continue to come true, gee reliance on Russian gas comes to mind. Wait didn’t Europeans especially almighty merkel laugh at him when he said that?
Ah yeh you disagree with someone so they’re automatically traitors……who’s sounding Russian now?

Let that sink in.

Ps you wonder why Americans are fed up funding Ukraine, you’re a perfect example. Agree with me and give me money or you’re a traitor, sounds like zelinsky himself 🙄
Of course I exagerrated when I meant they are traitors. They are not and neither are you. Thats a mischaracterization.

But the fact remains that he got fired because his lies cost his employer billions of $s . And as a news personality if your guys exposed to that level, then no other media is going to hire you. Yes he can use the blow horn as much as he wants and the die hard followers will continue to listen to him. But those that had a 'we don't want lies filter' drop him when one big lie is exposed.

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Don't insult the Russians. THey would never put something like this without putting tires on top. Pls stop spreading tireless cartoons

Russians are present all over the world. No germans leave Germany. And certainly no rich Germans live in Dubai after having stolen money.

Germany has a queue of immigrants from all the world and those that are already there. Nobody has any interest in ever moving to Russia. Sounds like Senor Medev is just bitter
 
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The case was handled in a lower court, where it was dismissed because the court decided that the plaintiff did not have any standing. The case was then brought t9 SCOTUS to determine if the plaintiff had any standing or not and the SCOTUS ruled that the lower court was correct in that the plaintiff did not have any standing.

For the final time, the SCOTUS DID NOT RULE on anything, you cannot hand down a ruling if you did not hear the case, how did you rule on something you have not heard the argument on both side

SCOTUS only hear cases that are related to the Constitution, they aren't High Court in any other place like in Australia that will hear anything. Whether or not the plaintiff have standing or anything have nothing to do with what the SCOTUS. They didn't hear that case because that is not of constitutional matter.

If and when Trump was convicted and jailed and he argue Habeas Corpus in front of the Supreme Court, then yes, SCOTUS will hear that case and see if it violate Trump's constitution right for locking him up for what he did as a President of the United States. This Texas case is what SCOTUS saying you bring the wrong case to the SCOTUS, we don't hear that so they ejected the case.
Anyone can ask for an ID if the reason is reasonable.

You can ask for ID, but I have the right not to show you, even if you are a Police Officer, you cannot stop or detain me on the street just ask for my ID, that's violating that person's 4A right you need to have either a probable clause or reasonable suspicion that a crime is committed and you fit the description, even then I don't really need to show them because I have both 4A and 5A, I don't need to tell or show the Police anything, just that by doing that the cop can apply for a court order or warrant and obtain your ID (fingerprint, DNA) circumventing the 4A.

Company can ask for your ID before they hire you, but you do NOT need to show them because of 4A, if they did not hire you solely because you refused to show them the ID, that's violating someone 4A right and may even be civilly liable for discrimination.



The 4th amendment.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

I would say that an employer have a right to know who he hires.

You can say anything you want, that does not mean employer have a right to know who he hires.

Noone is forcing anyone to seek employment at a certain company.

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The law may not even require anyone to show ID to the employer.
The law may say that noone is allowed to hire someone which is an illegal alien, and to prove that no illegal alien is hired.
Up to the employer to prove. This gives him a reasonable cause to ask for id, and the constitution is not violated.

Dude, you are comparing something different.

YOU WANT TO DRIVE, so you apply for a driver license, and that's the condition that you need to carry them while operating a vehicle, and you agreed to that term so that you could drive on the road, nobody is forcing you to take a driver license, you are doing it on your own initiative. You don't want to carry one, then don't drive

That's different than you are force to have a driver license by law, because you "MAY" choose to drive. It's the same with the Company asking for your ID, they can of course ask for your ID, but I don't need to show them anything, and if they did not hire me because of that and not because of I am less than suitable for the job, then there will be a 4A lawsuit.

”Securing the border” does not solve the problem when many become illegal aliens by overstaying their visas.
You are paying the government to do a job, and then you make it impossible for them to do that job. You are of course allowed to make that prioritization, but don’t expect to be treated seriously if you complain about illegal aliens.

You make the bed, you get to sleep in it.

Well, then tell me how you can stem illegal immigrant? I used to live in Hong Kong and by law, everyone requires to carry an ID Card all the time when you are outside, and you have to be fingerprinted when you get your ID Card. Everyone need to show their ID Card for whatever they do, and police can stop you and check you for ID, even now if you want to go Yumcha in a restaurant, you will need to show your ID Card and proof that you are vaccinated against COVID not to mention getting a job. And illegal immigrant is actually a crime and you have to go to jail instead of being deported for it

Does that mean Hong Kong does not have illegal immigrant problem?


Again, I don't care what they do to stem illegal immigration, you don't encroach into my 1,4, 5, 6A right to do so, I pay their salary by paying taxes, that's their failure, it's not like they are a volunteer force and doing the best that they can, coming on us legal citizen is not at all an acceptable solution, if you think it's okay to take away Amendment right just because of that, then it's you, and you may as well live in China.
 
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Its much worse and higher. Only difference is US is a true super power and picks its interference far away from its borders. Not in its hemisphere.
Far from its borders? What about south American Countries lol. Well how America is super power by borrowing more money and show is muscle overseas when its own ppl are homeless and bad infrastructure.... Its not 60 -70 that America can rule the world.
 
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Only 16 Leopards have been hit, with 6 destroyed. Clockwork is quite the exaggeration, especially with over 2,350 Russian visually confirmed tank losses. Only 1 Challenger destroyed.

Not even a single Abrams has entered combat.

And Russia isn’t getting anywhere near Odessa or the Dnipro
Russia will lose this war of attrition.

The Russians fired 60,000 artillery rounds per day during the last year summer offensive, now 4,000 rounds per day, same amount of Ukraine artillery firing rate rounds per day. Russia can only make 1-2 million rounds per year.

Russia lose 4-5 tanks per day, but can make max. 1 tank per day. In total 9,100 tanks and armor vehicles are lost since the war began. 280,000 Russian soldiers dead or wounded.

Russia last hope is the US giving up on Ukraine.
 
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Russia will lose this war of attrition.

The Russians fired 60,000 artillery rounds per day during the last year summer offensive, now 4,000 rounds per day, same amount of Ukraine artillery firing rate rounds per day. Russia can only make 1-2 million rounds per year.

Russia lose 4-5 tanks per day, but can make max. 1 tank per day. In total 9,100 tanks and armor vehicles are lost since the war began. 280,000 Russian soldiers dead or wounded.

Russia last hope is the US giving up on Ukraine.

Russia will stay the course. You still haven't learnt much. Russia has shown it can hold on for a long period of time without even firing a bullet. Ukraine is like a 80 KG sumo wrestler fighting Russia that weighs well over 200 KG.
 
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Rusky will produced more weapons they said.... Well it won't matter if it got taken out everytime it enter services.


Far from its borders? What about south American Countries lol. Well how America is super power by borrowing more money and show is muscle overseas when its own ppl are homeless and bad infrastructure.... Its not 60 -70 that America can rule the world.

Other way around mate. America become a superpower because people buy the US dollar. Including China.
 
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Russia will stay the course. You still haven't learnt much. Russia has shown it can hold on for a long period of time without even firing a bullet. Ukraine is like a 80 KG sumo wrestler fighting Russia that weighs well over 200 KG.
Russia will lose this war. there is no realistic scenario Russia will prevail. Russia is 29 times bigger than Ukraine. So in number Russia is like a 2,800 kg gorilla. But in wars not a bigger guy always wins.
 
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For the final time, the SCOTUS DID NOT RULE on anything, you cannot hand down a ruling if you did not hear the case, how did you rule on something you have not heard the argument on both side

SCOTUS only hear cases that are related to the Constitution, they aren't High Court in any other place like in Australia that will hear anything. Whether or not the plaintiff have standing or anything have nothing to do with what the SCOTUS. They didn't hear that case because that is not of constitutional matter.
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If and when Trump was convicted and jailed and he argue Habeas Corpus in front of the Supreme Court, then yes, SCOTUS will hear that case and see if it violate Trump's constitution right for locking him up for what he did as a President of the United States. This Texas case is what SCOTUS saying you bring the wrong case to the SCOTUS, we don't hear that so they ejected the case.


You can ask for ID, but I have the right not to show you, even if you are a Police Officer, you cannot stop or detain me on the street just ask for my ID, that's violating that person's 4A right you need to have either a probable clause or reasonable suspicion that a crime is committed and you fit the description, even then I don't really need to show them because I have both 4A and 5A, I don't need to tell or show the Police anything, just that by doing that the cop can apply for a court order or warrant and obtain your ID (fingerprint, DNA) circumventing the 4A.
That is well known.

Company can ask for your ID before they hire you, but you do NOT need to show them because of 4A, if they did not hire you solely because you refused to show them the ID, that's violating someone 4A right and may even be civilly liable for discrimination.
You have to show ID to enter an aircraft, because flying is voluntary.
You cannot successfully sue the airline for not allowing you onboard.

Seeking employment at a certain company is also voluntary.
Why is this any different?

Discrimination is if You do not hire someone because who they are, not because their behaviour.


You can say anything you want, that does not mean employer have a right to know who he hires.


Dude, you are comparing something different.

YOU WANT TO DRIVE, so you apply for a driver license, and that's the condition that you need to carry them while operating a vehicle, and you agreed to that term so that you could drive on the road, nobody is forcing you to take a driver license, you are doing it on your own initiative. You don't want to carry one, then don't drive

That's different than you are force to have a driver license by law, because you "MAY" choose to drive. It's the same with the Company asking for your ID, they can of course ask for your ID, but I don't need to show them anything, and if they did not hire me because of that and not because of I am less than suitable for the job, then there will be a 4A lawsuit.
It is unlikely they can check if you are unsuitable if they do not know who you are.


Well, then tell me how you can stem illegal immigrant? I used to live in Hong Kong and by law, everyone requires to carry an ID Card all the time when you are outside, and you have to be fingerprinted when you get your ID Card. Everyone need to show their ID Card for whatever they do, and police can stop you and check you for ID, even now if you want to go Yumcha in a restaurant, you will need to show your ID Card and proof that you are vaccinated against COVID not to mention getting a job. And illegal immigrant is actually a crime and you have to go to jail instead of being deported for it

This is about statistics. If you have a problem with illegal immigrants, stopping 60% is better than stopping 40%.



Does that mean Hong Kong does not have illegal immigrant problem?


Again, I don't care what they do to stem illegal immigration, you don't encroach into my 1,4, 5, 6A right to do so, I pay their salary by paying taxes, that's their failure, it's not like they are a volunteer force and doing the best that they can, coming on us legal citizen is not at all an acceptable solution, if you think it's okay to take away Amendment right just because of that, then it's you, and you may as well live in China.

The amendment stops harassment, but it does not stop reasonable requests to identify yourself.
 
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You have to show ID to enter an aircraft, because flying is voluntary.
You cannot successfully sue the airline for not allowing you onboard.

That's because of patriot act after 9-11, and that's national security issue, not the same thing.


Seeking employment at a certain company is also voluntary.
Why is this any different?

Discrimination is if You do not hire someone because who they are, not because their behaviour.

Seeking employment is volunteer, but you cannot discriminate people because of their political belief, and believing in 4A is a political believe.

So no, you cannot post an employment ads saying applicant need to show their ID or valid identification are require for hiring. That's violate 4A right because you took away that right, not the person in question. You can ask them, and they can say no, and that cannot have any consequence if they say no.

It is unlikely they can check if you are unsuitable if they do not know who you are.

This is about statistics. If you have a problem with illegal immigrants, stopping 60% is better than stopping 40%.

The amendment stops harassment, but it does not stop reasonable requests to identify yourself.
The problem here are you think it's reasonable to ask people for ID and they have to show it, it's not, that is not one of the reasonable act to show people ID, in fact, the issue of getting an ID so you can show anyone themselves is unreasonable, it's unreasonable to have assume every American Citizen to have any form of ID to show you when you hire people. Let alone as I explained that a 4A violation.

If they want to do it, fine, but it's not up to the employer to decide.
 
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When Putin takes actions that affect the world, then it is everyones business.



I guess that should be expected from an account created 2008, with a total of 33 messages. I.E: someone trying to deflect criticism of Putin. You did not disappoint us there.

Whatabout, Whatabout, Whatabout…
So ur logic is that person should post for no reson... if u bark all day, doesn't mean that you are more inteligent.
 
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