This is exactly the point spreading disinformation.. It doesnt matter if you believe russian propaganda. The sowing of mistrust makes you disbelieve everything. But Russia lying 100% of the time doesnt mean the rest of the world does.
Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2
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and Ukraine destroying 96% of the drone and fail to show evidence of it and specially blurring the serial number on the derbies to hide the actual number of the drones is telling truth and not lying?
And you know all this, living in the Iran You must be so clever
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Are you still here with your pro USA uber alles? Should not surprise me. I guess top dollars are hard to ignore. Anyway you conveniently left out others bad news about Ukraine.
Leaked documents detail dire assessments of Ukrainian army: reports
Leaked documents detail dire assessments of Ukrainian army: reports
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Lauren Sforza
Sun, April 9, 2023 at 2:30 PM GMT+2·2 min read
Classified documents apparently leaked last week detail weaknesses in the Ukrainian army, specifically shortfalls of ammunition and air defense, according to reports.
The Washington Post reported that one of the leaked Pentagon documents detailed that Ukraine’s air defense may not be able to protect the front lines through the end of May. One of the documents included an assessment from February from the Defense Department’s Joint Staff, which said Ukraine’s “ability to provide medium range air defense to protect the [front lines] will be completely reduced by May 23,” according to the Post.
The reported classified document also says once Ukraine’s first layer of defense munitions run out, the “2nd and 3rd Layer expenditure rates will increase, reducing the ability to defend against Russian aerial attacks from all altitudes.”
Both the Justice Department and the Defense Department are investigating the apparent leak of classified documents after Russian sources posted them to online websites, like Twitter. The documents are dated from March or earlier of this year, and appear to include information on Ukrainian training, munition expenditures and estimated casualties from both Ukraine and Russia. The documents do not appear to have plans for a Ukrainian counteroffensive expected for this spring.
The Post also reported that another document shows how quickly the Ukraine’s air defense projectiles will deplete, saying that SA-11 systems will be depleted by April 13, NASAMs, made by the U.S., will be expended by April 15 and SA-8s will be gone by May. Another chart appears to suggest that Ukrainian air defense focus on Russian jets and helicopters and ignore smaller threats, like drones, in light of the expected shortfalls, according to the Post.
The New York Times reported that the trove of documents includes an assessment on the state of fighting in Bakhmut, a city in Ukraine’s eastern Donetsk region that has been under siege for seven months. The Times said that the documents appear to show that the U.S. is spying on Ukraine’s top military and political leaders.
The document outlined how Ukrainian forces “were almost operationally encircled by Russian forces in Bakhmut,” as of Feb. 25, the Times reported. The documents show top Ukraine leaders offering grim assessments in the ongoing fight for Bakhmut, with Gen. Kyrylo Budanov, Ukraine’s director of military intelligence, saying that the situation was “catastrophic” at the time of the report.
The Times also reported that Roman Mashovets, an adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s chief of staff Andriy Yermak, said that Ukrainian forces’ esteem was low in Bakhmut.
“Mashovets reported that, for those reasons, the morale in Bakhmut was low, with the Ukrainian forces under the impression that they were almost operationally encircled,” the assessment read.
Leaked documents detail dire assessments of Ukrainian army: reports
Classified documents apparently leaked last week detail weaknesses in the Ukrainian army, specifically shortfalls of ammunition and air defense, according to reports. The Washington Post reported t…
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Leaked secret Pentagon documents lift the lid on U.S. spying on Russia’s war in Ukraine
NBC News obtained more than 50 of the leaked documents, many of them labeled “Top Secret."We apologize, this video has expired.
DOJ probes breach of classified US military documents
02:05April 10, 2023, 2:47 AM CEST
By Dan De Luce, Kevin Collier, Phil McCausland and Ken Dilanian
Dozens of leaked Defense Department classified documents posted online reveal details of U.S. spying on Russia’s war machine in Ukraine and secret assessments of Ukraine’s combat power, as well as intelligence gathering on America’s allies, including South Korea and Israel.
NBC News obtained more than 50 of the leaked documents, many of them labeled “Top Secret,” the highest level of classification.
The documents first appeared online in March, and a senior U.S. official said Saturday that the government’s “working theory” is that they are real, although some of them could have been altered.
The full impact of the leak remains unclear, but it could represent the most serious breach of U.S. intelligence secrets since a contractor for the National Security Agency, Edward Snowden, passed on thousands of classified documents to journalists about U.S. electronic surveillance in 2013. In this case, the scale of the disclosure is much smaller, involving dozens instead of thousands of documents.
The documents include repeated references to information based on secret signals intelligence — electronic eavesdropping — a crucial pillar of U.S. intelligence-gathering. A former U.S. intelligence official said the disclosure of some signals intelligence reporting about Russia and its spy agencies could cause significant damage if Moscow is able to cut off those sources of information.
Classified U.S. military documents 'leaked' online
April 9, 202302:29It remains unclear how the trove of documents ended up on various social media sites.
In a statement over the weekend, deputy Pentagon press secretary Sabrina Singh said, “The Department of Defense continues to review and assess the validity of the photographed documents that are circulating on social media sites and that appear to contain sensitive and highly classified material. An interagency effort has been stood up, focused on assessing the impact these photographed documents could have on U.S. national security and on our Allies and partners. Over the weekend, U.S. officials have engaged with Allies and partners and have informed relevant congressional committees of jurisdiction about the disclosure. The Department of Defense’s highest priority is the defense of our nation and our national security. We have referred this matter to the Department of Justice, which has opened a criminal investigation.”
The New York Times first reported the leak last week. The Times and The Washington Post first reported the contents of some of the same documents obtained by NBC News. The open-source investigative group Bellingcat said the documents first appeared on the Discord social media platform in March.
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Many of the documents that NBC News obtained, dated from February to March, appear to be briefing slides prepared by the U.S. military’s Joint Staff and refer to information gleaned from an array of U.S. intelligence agencies, including the CIA, the Defense Intelligence Agency and the National Reconnaissance Office, which oversees U.S. spy satellites. Some of the documents carry the label NOFORN, which prohibits the information from being shared with foreign partners.
Although U.S. officials believe the documents are most likely authentic, at least one of those obtained by NBC News appears to have been doctored, with two versions of the document appearing online, providing different estimates of Russian casualty figures.
The leak will also raise fresh questions among U.S. allies about whether Washington can be trusted with secret information. It remains unclear whether the leak is the result of a hack by a foreign adversary or whether the disclosure came from within the U.S. government or through a U.S. ally with access to American intelligence reporting.
Russia says 63 of its soldiers dead in HIMARS attack on Donetsk
Jan. 2, 202301:22NBC News was not able to independently confirm the intelligence reporting cited in the documents.
Here are some of the highlights from the documents:
- Russia’s private mercenary outfit, the Wagner Group, has sought to purchase weapons from NATO member Turkey, as well as from Mali. The group is also considering recruiting more convicts for the war in Ukraine, according to the documents, citing signals intelligence.
- Some documents include satellite images of damage to various targets from Ukrainian strikes in February. A strike on an “assembly area” caused “severe damage” and was carried out with the help of U.S. intelligence, a document said.
- The battle for Ukraine’s eastern Donbas region is most likely headed for a “stalemate” through 2023, exhausting Russian units and frustrating Moscow’s war aims, according to an assessment based on signals intelligence and National Reconnaissance Office satellite and commercial satellite imagery, a document said.
- A document marked “secret” examines why Ukrainian bombs equipped with U.S.-made guidance systems, known as Joint Direct Attack Munitions, or JDAMs, have failed recently. It speculates that bomb fuses are not being armed correctly and that GPS signal issues — potentially caused by Russian jamming efforts — could be at play.
- A Feb. 28 document assesses “pathways” for Israel to provide “lethal aid” to Ukraine, providing hypothetical situations that might drive Israel from its balancing act between Kyiv and Moscow. Marked “secret,” the document also suggests what Israeli weapons could be transferred to Ukraine, such as Israel’s Javelin equivalent and other missile systems. The analysis says the “most plausible” scenario is that Jerusalem adopts a Turkish model under U.S. pressure. Like Ankara, it would mean that Israel “sells lethal defense systems or provides them through third-party entities” while openly advocating for peace and “offering to host mediation efforts.” Alternative scenarios consider how Moscow’s support of Iran’s military programs or proxy efforts in Syria could drive Israel to provide Ukraine with “lethal aid.”
- South Korea has concerns about providing artillery shells to the U.S. to replenish America’s supplies, as officials worried that the ammunition would end with Ukraine’s military, according to documents citing signals intelligence.
- The leadership of Israel’s Mossad foreign intelligence service encouraged its staff to take part in anti-government protests that have swept Israel, according to one document. Israel issued a statement vehemently denying the assertion when it was first reported.
Leaked secret Pentagon documents lift the lid on U.S. spying on Russia’s war in Ukraine
NBC News obtained more than 50 of the leaked documents, many of them labeled “Top Secret."
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do i need to live outside Iran to see what Ukrainian claim and publish. or do i need extraordinary IQ to see any image they publish of the drone derbies the serial number is blurred ?
and yes i'm very clever , i have passed iran university entrance exam and accepted in medicine , and then accepted in best university of iran for getting my specialty . , i dare you just pass iran university entrance exam in medicine and i don't expect you to enter tehran medical university , just enter any governmental medical university if you can.
Those iranian drones have close to zero chance getting past properly armed air defence units. I am sure a couple of MG3s would shoot it down in daylight. So a 96% hit rate is plausible if that is what the ukrainians say.
Its a target the size of a car moving 100 km per hour. How come the ukrainians shooting it down is so hard for you to accept?
Just knowing what they're using and how they're using it should be a pretty good start to electronically disabling them in flight. Bonus points for returning it to senders!
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Assange Wikileaks was a cia operation of leaks against Democrats and Obama. A psy-op to defeat Democrats and promote neoconservatives and elect Romney to have a war with Iran.
If you missed the memo that the Deepstate is the cia Republicans and they seek to destroy Democratic opposition, then you fall prey to psy-ops.
If Assange and Snowden are your leaders. Then you believe Putin is fighting against Washington. This is where millions are deceived.
That FSB terrorist Putin, that cia vetted Putin supports this psy-op to elect Republicans shows you that Wikileaks is being used by the cia for psy-ops.
No leaks against Putin as a criminal that should go to the ICC. No leaks that bring down criminal Trump. Leaks against Clinton and Obama.
The resistance that follows wikileaks has turned into the new Christian zionists promoting cia wars. As these fraud populists are led by the nose.
I knew this before reading that others have arrived at the conclusion that wikileaks is a pro-Republican operation. A fraud operation when you realize Trump and Republicans are the cia deepstate political party.
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If one of your mottos is "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize", you can figure out wikileaks bias in a few seconds. Wikileaks rarely tries to sway voters to vote Democrat. Since near the beginning of Assange leading wikileaks. It was used not to bring down the cia, it was used to attack Democratic opposition to the cia. To blame Democrats for the crimes of cia PNAC Republicans. Therefore wikileaks followers got fooled by Putin. To support Putin because they are 100% deceived believing Putin is against the deepstate, when Putin and wikileaks are the deepstate psy-op. To bring about a Russian hellscape as you blame Bill Gates for controlling the globe, or other tinfoil hat conspiracy theory.
Here is a link to tinfoil hat stuff Putinites and Trumpers believe.
Pompeo, Bush, Trump and the rest of the cia cronies that are privately cheering for Russia are more than happy in their offspring - Trumpers and Putinites. The new Christian Zionists. Believing the anti-Putin good people are the deepstate. China has joined Team Trump with this.
This is why there are morons and 5th columnists in Europe and US, believing to fight against the very thing they support. cia endless wars. PNAC. neoconservative. Wikileaks and the fake populists defeated the Democratic opposition to cia Republicans. A frighten America against Trump got Biden in.
Although the cia has the three generations of Americans. The old are Trumpers seeing their nation turn drag queen from fearmongering. The middle aged support Putin because they were wrongly taught from RT and the fake resistance that Putin is fighting against the US deepstate. And the young are cia bitcoiners going to be billionaires from the cia ponzi scheme. So cia Trump, Putin and bitcoin control the US population. There are no voting generation of purists.
Each of these age demographics believe they are fighting the deepstate.
Therefore the deepstate of the cia can hide in plain sight. While the masses of morons demand Putin, Trump and bitcoin.
The only place that has not accepted one of these three in mass. Is Europe and Latin America. And the Trump war starts with Europe and Ukraine.
Latin America could strategize to defeat the cia via their silver mines with nationalization and go to a gold and silver standard for money.
90% of global pro-Putin sentiment is anti-cia, being duped Putin is fighting the cia endless wars. When Putin is the cia endless wars.
Wikileaks is political. Political against Democrats. Political for Republicans. Political in support of Trump. Political in support of Putin. Political in support of the cia Russia Republican deepstate agenda.
If you missed the memo that the Deepstate is the cia Republicans and they seek to destroy Democratic opposition, then you fall prey to psy-ops.
If Assange and Snowden are your leaders. Then you believe Putin is fighting against Washington. This is where millions are deceived.
That FSB terrorist Putin, that cia vetted Putin supports this psy-op to elect Republicans shows you that Wikileaks is being used by the cia for psy-ops.
No leaks against Putin as a criminal that should go to the ICC. No leaks that bring down criminal Trump. Leaks against Clinton and Obama.
The resistance that follows wikileaks has turned into the new Christian zionists promoting cia wars. As these fraud populists are led by the nose.
I knew this before reading that others have arrived at the conclusion that wikileaks is a pro-Republican operation. A fraud operation when you realize Trump and Republicans are the cia deepstate political party.
WikiLeaks - Wikipedia
If one of your mottos is "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize", you can figure out wikileaks bias in a few seconds. Wikileaks rarely tries to sway voters to vote Democrat. Since near the beginning of Assange leading wikileaks. It was used not to bring down the cia, it was used to attack Democratic opposition to the cia. To blame Democrats for the crimes of cia PNAC Republicans. Therefore wikileaks followers got fooled by Putin. To support Putin because they are 100% deceived believing Putin is against the deepstate, when Putin and wikileaks are the deepstate psy-op. To bring about a Russian hellscape as you blame Bill Gates for controlling the globe, or other tinfoil hat conspiracy theory.
Here is a link to tinfoil hat stuff Putinites and Trumpers believe.
Pompeo, Bush, Trump and the rest of the cia cronies that are privately cheering for Russia are more than happy in their offspring - Trumpers and Putinites. The new Christian Zionists. Believing the anti-Putin good people are the deepstate. China has joined Team Trump with this.
This is why there are morons and 5th columnists in Europe and US, believing to fight against the very thing they support. cia endless wars. PNAC. neoconservative. Wikileaks and the fake populists defeated the Democratic opposition to cia Republicans. A frighten America against Trump got Biden in.
Although the cia has the three generations of Americans. The old are Trumpers seeing their nation turn drag queen from fearmongering. The middle aged support Putin because they were wrongly taught from RT and the fake resistance that Putin is fighting against the US deepstate. And the young are cia bitcoiners going to be billionaires from the cia ponzi scheme. So cia Trump, Putin and bitcoin control the US population. There are no voting generation of purists.
Each of these age demographics believe they are fighting the deepstate.
Therefore the deepstate of the cia can hide in plain sight. While the masses of morons demand Putin, Trump and bitcoin.
The only place that has not accepted one of these three in mass. Is Europe and Latin America. And the Trump war starts with Europe and Ukraine.
Latin America could strategize to defeat the cia via their silver mines with nationalization and go to a gold and silver standard for money.
90% of global pro-Putin sentiment is anti-cia, being duped Putin is fighting the cia endless wars. When Putin is the cia endless wars.
Wikileaks is political. Political against Democrats. Political for Republicans. Political in support of Trump. Political in support of Putin. Political in support of the cia Russia Republican deepstate agenda.
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Christian Value (TM) is a more of a brand now a day instead of actual value to follow unfortunantely.
And somehow Russia is still a real country.
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The Ukrainians finally did it. Russia is now out of (working) tanks
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- The AFU are trying to counter the Russian with drones.. But the EW stations were activated and the attacks failed.. also the Russian MOD says they have destroyed all BayraktarTB2 Drones of Ukraine..100 of them..
- The Russians attacked the Ukrainian Nikolaiv naval base and series of other heavy strikes destroyed bases of the biggest groupings of the AFU in Kharkiv along the 102 infantry mechanized brigade and ammunition depots of the 72nd mechanized brigade..
- The Russian Military-Technical center "Tsar's Wolves" begun studying a unique Drone that uses the Starlink system and can be controlled in real time from anywhere in the world .. It was captured from the Ukrainian UAF in Zaporizhia..
- Attacks on huge fuel depots in Zaporizhia..
-The Russians attacked the AFU from 4 directions.. and the Ukrainians showed courage against more than 50 such attacks ..
- Russia is preparing specialized ant-tank units trained to destroy the Western tanks that were provided to Ukraine..
- Western air-defense systems promised to Kyiv will arrive soon..
There are many more Russian Attacks in Kherson and the whole western side of Dnieper..
- The Russians attacked the Ukrainian Nikolaiv naval base and series of other heavy strikes destroyed bases of the biggest groupings of the AFU in Kharkiv along the 102 infantry mechanized brigade and ammunition depots of the 72nd mechanized brigade..
- The Russian Military-Technical center "Tsar's Wolves" begun studying a unique Drone that uses the Starlink system and can be controlled in real time from anywhere in the world .. It was captured from the Ukrainian UAF in Zaporizhia..
- Attacks on huge fuel depots in Zaporizhia..
-The Russians attacked the AFU from 4 directions.. and the Ukrainians showed courage against more than 50 such attacks ..
- Russia is preparing specialized ant-tank units trained to destroy the Western tanks that were provided to Ukraine..
- Western air-defense systems promised to Kyiv will arrive soon..
There are many more Russian Attacks in Kherson and the whole western side of Dnieper..
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