Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

[Gripen9]

Strike kills nearly every deputy commander in Russian division: Ukraine

The one deputy commander who did not die is "in serious condition," according to the Ukrainian Armed Forces' communications office.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Soldier35]

Russian troops captured an American M777 howitzer in Ukraine, and a photo of another destroyed howitzer was also published. The captured howitzer was damaged, but according to the military correspondent, the DFCS digital fire control system unit was not damaged, it will be sent for study.

Published footage of the control of the Russian robotic combat module with remote control "Arbalet-DM" installed in the armored car "Tiger" in Ukraine. The module is equipped with a 12.7 mm Kord machine gun or a 7.62 PKTM machine gun. The guidance unit has a thermal imaging camera with a laser rangefinder. In addition, the module has four smoke grenade launchers.

 

[zartosht]

simply the best unbiased western analysis of Russian operations in the Donbass you will find

Colonol Markus Eisner PHD, head of the Austrian army's research and development

Major points:

- beginning of the war there were 93 Russian battalions (BTGS) vs. 81 UA battalions. Today its 103 vs. 60 as the Russians re-inforced theirs while the UA is suffering heavy attrition and many of their battalions lost their well trained professionals. Ukraine is rapidly losing battle capability.

- Popasnaya Breakthrough caused a massive cauldron. That the Russian deliberately did not fully close (massive idle forces in the north currently on standby and never used). Instead deliberately waited for UA to predictably send in heavy re-inforcements to get slaughtered

- Eventual UA retreat was chaotic and disorganized, with many troops running away on their own. (Russia is still picking up stragglers today)

-Himars system mainly attacks donbass militia who have less air defense. And expected to decrease in effectiveness with Russian adjustments (destroying them)

-m777 are garbage. Ukrainian general on record saying they have to constantly take them back to poland for shrapnel repairs as they are extremely prone to counter-battery fire.

- about half of UA equipment destroyed (Admitted by ukies, probably far higher)

-Heavy strategic attrition waged by precision Russian strikes (2800 missiles alone , with non-existant UA airforce

- Ukraine has 4 core strategic problems that Russia can exploit

- Generally extremely pessimistic, apologizes for being unbias as its his duty to be honest, and pays a tribute to a KIA ukrainian officer he personally served with.

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[sammuel]

-m777 are garbage. Ukrainian general on record saying they have to constantly take them back to poland for shrapnel repairs as they are extremely prone to counter-battery fire.

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Seriously ?

M777 is considered one of the best towed artillery , one of the reasons that it weighs almost half than other towed armillary of the same caliber.


" they have to constantly take them back to poland for shrapnel repairs as they are extremely prone to counter-battery fire "

Are you going to stand behind this statement ? You want to argue that the m777 is more " prone " to counter-battery fire " than other models ? What is that ?

If anything , the m777 is more light weight , and can be more easily be moved after fire . compared to other towed armillary.

~

 

[Corax]

simply the best unbiased western analysis of Russian operations in the Donbass you will find

Colonol Markus Eisner PHD, head of the Austrian army's research and development

Major points:

- beginning of the war there were 93 Russian battalions (BTGS) vs. 81 UA battalions. Today its 103 vs. 60 as the Russians re-inforced theirs while the UA is suffering heavy attrition and many of their battalions lost their well trained professionals. Ukraine is rapidly losing battle capability.

- Popasnaya Breakthrough caused a massive cauldron. That the Russian deliberately did not fully close (massive idle forces in the north currently on standby and never used). Instead deliberately waited for UA to predictably send in heavy re-inforcements to get slaughtered

- Eventual UA retreat was chaotic and disorganized, with many troops running away on their own. (Russia is still picking up stragglers today)

-Himars system mainly attacks donbass militia who have less air defense. And expected to decrease in effectiveness with Russian adjustments (destroying them)

-m777 are garbage. Ukrainian general on record saying they have to constantly take them back to poland for shrapnel repairs as they are extremely prone to counter-battery fire.

- about half of UA equipment destroyed (Admitted by ukies, probably far higher)

-Heavy strategic attrition waged by precision Russian strikes (2800 missiles alone , with non-existant UA airforce

- Ukraine has 4 core strategic problems that Russia can exploit

- Generally extremely pessimistic, apologizes for being unbias as its his duty to be honest, and pays a tribute to a KIA ukrainian officer he personally served with.

-

It's interesting that both him and other military observers are using the same video of M777s being destroyed that the US and NATO fanboys on here can't seem to accept, and so called armchair "military experts" try so hard to deny. One of the stated goals of the Russians from the outset was to destroy the Ukrainian armed forces and their main capabilities, and it's ironic that the Ukrainians are the ones suffering the most from the attrition warfare, not the Russians, despite their very heavy losses.

 

[Paul2]

meh, if it really went that way, then the Russian are dumber than I thought

USSR's 152mm, and rocket artillery ammo stocks were giagntic, but not infinite.

2.5m rounds + what they lost in Alchevsk + Donetsk would be a double digit percentage of their total stocks. It's 2-3 strategic logistics bases emptied, of which WP had 18. Russia only inherited 8 or 9 of them.

If Ukrainians will continue popping ammo stockpiles, I see them having to revert to use ammo straight from the factories, which Russia have only few. There is no chance they will be able to make even 300k rounds per month. And some say Russian current capacity is less than 100k.

 

[jhungary]

Seriously ?

M777 is considered one of the best towed artillery , one of the reasons that it weighs almost half than other towed armillary of the same caliber.


" they have to constantly take them back to poland for shrapnel repairs as they are extremely prone to counter-battery fire "

Are you going to stand behind this statement ? You want to argue that the m777 is more " prone " to counter-battery fire " than other models ? What is that ?

If anything , the m777 is more light weight , and can be more easily be moved after fire . compared to other towed armillary.

~

Well, you are trying to argue military sense to people who say "Ukraine can't retake land because they have light infantry only"

There are no sense to talk about when their reference point is a computer game.......

 

[Viet]

simply the best unbiased western analysis of Russian operations in the Donbass you will find

Colonol Markus Eisner PHD, head of the Austrian army's research and development

Major points:

- beginning of the war there were 93 Russian battalions (BTGS) vs. 81 UA battalions. Today its 103 vs. 60 as the Russians re-inforced theirs while the UA is suffering heavy attrition and many of their battalions lost their well trained professionals. Ukraine is rapidly losing battle capability.

- Popasnaya Breakthrough caused a massive cauldron. That the Russian deliberately did not fully close (massive idle forces in the north currently on standby and never used). Instead deliberately waited for UA to predictably send in heavy re-inforcements to get slaughtered

- Eventual UA retreat was chaotic and disorganized, with many troops running away on their own. (Russia is still picking up stragglers today)

-Himars system mainly attacks donbass militia who have less air defense. And expected to decrease in effectiveness with Russian adjustments (destroying them)

-m777 are garbage. Ukrainian general on record saying they have to constantly take them back to poland for shrapnel repairs as they are extremely prone to counter-battery fire.

- about half of UA equipment destroyed (Admitted by ukies, probably far higher)

-Heavy strategic attrition waged by precision Russian strikes (2800 missiles alone , with non-existant UA airforce

- Ukraine has 4 core strategic problems that Russia can exploit

- Generally extremely pessimistic, apologizes for being unbias as its his duty to be honest, and pays a tribute to a KIA ukrainian officer he personally served with.

-

M777 are garbage.
simply the best unbiased western analysis

 

[jhungary]

USSR's 152mm, and rocket artillery ammo stocks were giagntic, but not infinite.

2.5m rounds + what they lost in Alchevsk + Donetsk would be a double digit percentage of their total stocks. It's 2-3 strategic logistics bases emptied, of which WP had 18. Russia only inherited 8 or 9 of them.

If Ukrainians will continue popping ammo stockpiles, I see them having to revert to use ammo straight from the factories, which Russia have only few. There is no chance they will be able to make even 300k rounds per month. And some say Russian current capacity is less than 100k.

Artillery rounds need to move in the area BEFORE those tube arrive, you cannot have a truck going back and forth trying to distribute artillery round when your regiment is having a fire mission. Well, you can do that with low intensity stuff, not when you are going for 20000 rounds a day.

Logistically, they would have to have pre-set weapon cache and move rounds up to FP from it so they can be refilled the depleted stock from backward LP.

Traditionally, it was done on a just-in-time basis when you only bring enough rounds for a set operation (say 15 or 30 days OPs) and then you draw rounds from weapon cache, and LP resupply the weapon cache and then LP restock from the rear. Which make the idea of having everything in either Forward Position or Weapon cache really stupid. Because once that is damaged or destroyed (as in this case) you are talking about a 15-30 days void in ammunition.

There are two problems as far as I can see, the Russian used up way too much arounds and now the Ukrainian is targeting their FP or Weapon cache. Nothing the production base in Russia can help, they need millions rounds upfront to replace those lost (Either they were used or destroyed by the Ukrainian) no country can produce million rounds of artillery shell in a week, which mean the stoppage are either gradually or they would have to stop using their tube suddenly.

 

[jhungary]

It's interesting that both him and other military observers are using the same video of M777s being destroyed that the US and NATO fanboys on here can't seem to accept, and so called armchair "military experts" try so hard to deny. One of the stated goals of the Russians from the outset was to destroy the Ukrainian armed forces and their main capabilities, and it's ironic that the Ukrainians are the ones suffering the most from the attrition warfare, not the Russians, despite their very heavy losses.

T-S like you didn't realise I did not challenge the fact that it could be a M777, I was challenging of the story and the authenticity of the news. Which by the way, I still have not heard any of the legit challenge that was a M777.

So what a M777 is destroyed? Should people cry over a 3 millions piece of gear when US aid is at tens of billions? So what US can just send them 96 tube and they cannot be replaced? An equipment is an equipment, and every equipment have its used by days and when it is done, you replace it with another. Sure, Russia can destroy anything, but what then? US can supply everything back to the Ukrainian. You destroyed one, we send 4 more, or 10 more, we can do this all day probably before you ran out of munition. Or do you think US does not have the economic base to send 100 M777 to Ukraine every year?

I was challenging the story about how they destroy that M777 along with 15 other they claim they destroy in a push for Snake Island. I don't care if the M777 is destroyed. And you need to stop being stupid and either answer my question or move on.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1547572728739155970

https://twitter.com/x/status/1547563088198508550

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1547518969178980352

 

[F-22Raptor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1547574782836690945

 

[Paul2]

and here is why

I count 5 x MRLS and 40 launched in 10 seconds

thats 200 shells in 10 seconds and Russians have millions of these rockets they can do this all day long

no matter what you give Ukraine they cannot match the Russian firepower

if you take out 1 they send another 100

https://twitter.com/x/status/1545599126896721920

I greatly doubt Russia being able to match their ammo expenditure after Ukraine took out months worth of ammo.

That video is btw from 8-6 weeks ago.

 

[aziqbal]

I greatly doubt Russia being able to match their ammo expenditure after Ukraine took out months worth of ammo.

That video is btw from 8-6 weeks ago.

Russia has millions of 152mm shells left. They are in no danger of running out. The Soviet Union was obsessed with manufacturing them because they always assumed that any war with NATO would be an artillery war.

shells are not a issue its barrel wear, but Russia has too many artillery pieces