Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

[khansaheeb]

Ukrainian official says Iranian ballistic missiles bought by Russia may need to be destroyed at their launch sites

About 4.5 million Ukrainians are dealing with power outages caused by Russian attacks on civilian infrastructure, according to President Volodymyr Zelensky. Follow live updates here.

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11 hr 55 min ago

Ukrainian official says Iranian ballistic missiles bought by Russia may need to be destroyed at their launch sites​

From CNN's Julia Kesaieva in Kyiv and Tim Lister

Ukrainian Air Force spokesperson Yurii Ihnat holds a briefing in Kyiv, Ukraine, on June 14. (Ukrinform/Shutterstock)

Ukraine's air force says that newly arrived western air defense systems will help deal with the new threat of Iranian ballistic missiles reportedly being purchased by Russia.
Yuriy Ihnat, Air Force spokesperson, told a briefing in Kyiv that Ukraine might target the Iranian missiles at their launch sites, which would probably be well inside Russia.

"They must somehow be destroyed, probably from where they are launched. Because we have no effective means of fighting ballistic [missiles], except for their physical destruction at the launch stage."

Ihnat said the Iranian missiles have "a range of 300 and 700 kilometers, which in principle will not create anything new for Ukraine, because [Russian-made] Iskanders were used from the first day of the war."
"I think both the top military leadership and our partners are working on this issue, looking for effective ways to counter these new threats," Ihnat said.
He said that the Russians were unable to make progress on the battlefield and had resorted to attacking infrastructure supplying energy and water. "They want to hit energy facilities in the autumn-winter period first of all, because people's lives largely depend on them. This air terrorism will continue by all available means."
"It is clear that the missiles that will be received from Iran, if it is done, will be used at the energy infrastructure facilities, and [the Russians] will continue to strike with cruise missiles as well."
CNN reported on Nov. 1 that Iran is preparing to send about 1,000 additional weapons, including short range ballistic missiles and more attack drones, to Russia, citing officials from a western country that closely monitors Iran's weapons program.

 

[BHAN85]

The US produced three Casus Belli in front of the UN.
You consider them the same because You choose to be uninformed.

Russia also shows proves about "Ukraine biolabs", like USA did with "Iraq WMD", same bullshit, anyway that's not the point.

They called "preemptive strike" instead "retaliation strike", so it's not a so common "casus belli".

If USA did a normal war due to a casus belli, they wouldn't need to invent the stupid thing of "preemptive strike".

It's so funny call a aggression first strike war as "preemptive strike" like call "Special military op" to a aggression war.

Anyway, both are a way to work around international laws about war.

Just to name in a different way a war of aggression. And then, international laws are useless if there is nobody strong enough to judge you.

 

[BHAN85]

How USA dominates European rulers

Some people can't understand why Europe suicide themselves energetically/economically/militarily facing Russia. Here is the answer: https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2022/05/15/the-kremlin-never-learns-2/ Years ago I was in the Pentagon in the office of a very high official being offered an...

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[A.P. Richelieu]

please ask your wife about the meaning of article 12
that part say if enemy can't evacuate its injured soldiers and you found them you must treat them but in such case they must leave some medical equipment with them . but nowhere it say you can abandon treating them if they don't leave any medical equipment , they just acted against the convention , its not mean you also can act against it and the first part i point is separate from it

You are aware that now he really can bill you for her time, LOL…

Russia also shows proves about "Ukraine biolabs", like USA did with "Iraq WMD", same bullshit, anyway that's not the point.

They called "preemptive strike" instead "retaliation strike", so it's not a so common "casus belli".

If USA did a normal war due to a casus belli, they wouldn't need to invent the stupid thing of "preemptive strike".

It's so funny call a aggression first strike war as "preemptive strike" like call "Special military op" to a aggression war.

Anyway, both are a way to work around international laws about war.

Just to name in a different way a war of aggression. And then, international laws are useless if there is nobody strong enough to judge you.

If you are not aware that the US presented casus belli before the invasion of Iraq, then you have very little to add to the discussion.

They presented three casus belli. All three must be bogus for the war to be unlawful. That one fails is not enough.

Russia did not present a single valid casus belli.

That makes the US invasion legal, and Russias invasion illegal.
The US did not start a new war. It simply terminated the ceasefire agreement after numerous violations (from both sides).
So the invasion is not a war of aggression from the US side. It is an Iraqi war of aggression.

Russia is most definitely committing a war of aggression.

 

[BHAN85]

You are aware that now he really can bill you for her time, LOL…


If you are not aware that the US presented casus belli before the invasion of Iraq, then you have very little to add to the discussion.

They presented three casus belli. All three must be bogus for the war to be unlawful. That one fails is not enough.

Russia did not present a single valid casus belli.

That makes the US invasion legal, and Russias invasion illegal.

That's not the point.

The point is call a war in a different way to work around war legislations.

Change the meaning of words to elude legislations.

USA invented the term "Preemptive Strike".
And now Russia invents "Special Military Op".

 

[That Guy]

That's not the point.

The point is call a war in a different way to work around war legislations.

Change the meaning of words to elude legislations.

USA invented the term "Preemptive Strike".
And now Russia invents "Special Military Op".

Just....to be clear, the USA didn't invest the concept of preemptive strike. Don't know where the term came from, but the concept is older than the birth of the USA.

Also, the Russians got their idea of "special military operations" from the US, as the US legally doesn't call most of their wars as wars, but rather large scale military operations.

 

[Viet]

What’s happening to the world’s second most powerful army?

Russia army is in the defensive. Impossible regaining the initiative with the mobis. Hopeless sending the mobis against Ukraine artillery.
Putin makes it to a corrupt and incompetent army.
Many of his troops are now busy with looting at Kherson after the civilians are evacuated or deported.

Ukraine army is on the move.

Ukrainischer Panzer in der Südukraine: Der Krieg hat laut UN zu der größten Vertreibung seit Jahrzehnten geführt. (Quelle: Valentyn Ogirenko/Reuters/dpa-bilder)

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

The rusky are boned.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1589696502360047616

Just....to be clear, the USA didn't invest the concept of preemptive strike. Don't know where the term came from, but the concept is older than the birth of the USA.

Also, the Russians got their idea of "special military operations" from the US, as the US legally doesn't call most of their wars as wars, but rather large scale military operations.

I think the difference is that US doesn't imprison you for thought crime for calling it a war.

Also asking for a friend can someone post Russian soldier raping another soldier. Its Censored of course....

 

[jhungary]

There is no way Russia will lose any war, you must be naïve or deceitful to pretend otherwise , you are yearning for MAD , don't know why. Is your life that miserable and sick that you want to end it? What do you hope to achieve by provoking Russia even more?

I don't know if there are anyway Russia will lose any war, I can say they aren't doing good at the moment. And I don't see how Russia can turn this battlefield around, they had been wounded and both resource and manpower are running low. That's not a good sign for any war.

And sure, let Russia had Ukraine because they have nuke, other people also have nuke you know, maybe the world should cease to exist with only the 11 nuclear states that remain? They can't act like bully in the sand pit and yell MAD everytime they are losing a fight. The world will not give in to nuclear demand, and this is something even Xi himself said

MSN

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I don't know, or care what you or anybody think why Russia will win, Because that's an opinion, and everyone has one. I only care about how the situation on the ground is happening and the tactical and strategical implication, and all sign points to Russia is going to lose Kherson, and once they do, that's the entire war goes because they will leave an entire flank open. And that's the pure Military Point of view, you may disagree with it, that does not mean it is not how it goes Militarily.

I heard that bars in Russia are now filled with mostly women...

It's kind of catch 22 tho, you go in there, you may get drafted and fight for Russia.....

 

[jhungary]

That's not the point.

The point is call a war in a different way to work around war legislations.

Change the meaning of words to elude legislations.

USA invented the term "Preemptive Strike".
And now Russia invents "Special Military Op".

US does not call what happened in Iraq a war is because they don't see it as a war, and you will need a congress declaration of war in order to call that a war, while there are absolutely no point for US to call that a war because the different is there are certain thing you can do once the congress declare a war on someone (Like war economy, reimplementing selective service and so on) and all those are not needed in Iraq, as US is using an existing force to start an operation. Which does not require a declaration of war.

On the other hand, on an Interntional scale, it makes no different at all whether US call it a war, because the Law of War uses language such as "Conflict" and "Military Operation" you don't need to be in a "war" like scenario to have law of war and Geneva convention cover the action. Which mean whatever US call the invasion of Iraq have no impact on how Law of War and Geneva Convention on said operation.

 

[BHAN85]

Just....to be clear, the USA didn't invest the concept of preemptive strike. Don't know where the term came from, but the concept is older than the birth of the USA.

Also, the Russians got their idea of "special military operations" from the US, as the US legally doesn't call most of their wars as wars, but rather large scale military operations.

Well, then USA popularized the term.

Anyway it's not the point neither.

Just if you start a legal war, you dont need to use those strange concepts.

A normal guy will need just to take a look to a world map to know how it's impossible Iraq could threat USA mainland

But a hard brainwashed guy can swallow every stupid bullshit lie. It's like try to reason with a robot, losing time. The robots are feed with electric energy, and the stupid NATO slaves are feed with money, that's the only difference.

"Preemptive strike" and "Military special op" are just synonymous of aggression war, to avoid intl war legislations.

 

[zectech]

The Democrats are already controlled opposition. Talk to a Bernie Bros and these know that the Democrats are working for cia Republican agenda, as 'Republican-lite' Democrats.

The cia wants a new USA, a Russian styled "government", where the Democrats are not only controlled opposition, the Democrats are both weak and controlled opposition, never in Washington controlling Congress and the White House. Same as United Russia Party is the only "winner" year after year. Putin and cronies are the only allowed "winner", year after year. The Republican cia wants this for cia Republicans. As Putinite trolls say there is democracy in Russia, when it is in fact a mafia criminal state. Putinites want this for the US, one party, only Trump, only Trump loyalists. This is what was defeated when Mike Pence said no to Trump.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1588410965938569216

https://twitter.com/x/status/1580992525673717760

This is the cia push of the alt wrong morons that vomit about the WEF, UN agenda 2030, 'Great Reset' of Mask Wearing, and other Alex Jones Qanon garbage.

Trump is both the Qanon candidate:

Donald Trump is the QAnon president. And he's proud of it | Richard Wolffe

Under his leadership, and with his support, QAnon candidates like Marjorie Taylor Greene in Georgia are on a fast track to elected office

www.theguardian.com

And Trump is the Deepstate of the George Bush cia, now loyalists to Trump:

The Real Deep State Is Trump

How the president has used William Barr and other officials to turn the government into his personal fiefdom

newrepublic.com

The new Christian zionists that are the political base of cia Republican Party are the Trumper Qanon tinfoil hatters.

Watch Faux News, watch Newsmax, watch OAN... and you are to find that the Republicans are 100% chips in for cia Pompeo and Trump. And Trumpers oppose the EU, oppose NATO, oppose having political opposition. Trumpers want Russia controlling Europe, European politics.

cia Republicans want a one party state, and Trump staged a domestic terrorist coup to achieve this. Ask every Democrat on topic of Republican goal to have a one party state of Republicans rigging election results if Republicans lose.

Trump and Putin want Russia Republicans to turn the USA into Russia.

 

[Hack-Hook]

The rusky are boned.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1589696502360047616

well tow certainly can deal with t-72 and its variant from all sides, i cant vouch it for T-34s that soon come to battle field as I doubt it is validated against them (I heard russian have good Experience with those Tanks). but calling it legendary is a little stretching it as it will probably have problem dealing with more modern tank.

I think the difference is that US doesn't imprison you for thought crime for calling it a war.

Also asking for a friend can someone post Russian soldier raping another soldier. Its Censored of course....

USA i don't knew but EU certainly imprison you for taught crime
about raping other soldiers , well USA army also have such rich history on that and trying to hide it , specially when it come to female soldiers .

 

[Vergennes]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1589934111036436480

 

[Hack-Hook]

Ukrainian official says Iranian ballistic missiles bought by Russia may need to be destroyed at their launch sites

About 4.5 million Ukrainians are dealing with power outages caused by Russian attacks on civilian infrastructure, according to President Volodymyr Zelensky. Follow live updates here.

www.cnn.com

11 hr 55 min ago

Ukrainian official says Iranian ballistic missiles bought by Russia may need to be destroyed at their launch sites​

From CNN's Julia Kesaieva in Kyiv and Tim Lister

Ukrainian Air Force spokesperson Yurii Ihnat holds a briefing in Kyiv, Ukraine, on June 14. (Ukrinform/Shutterstock)

Ukraine's air force says that newly arrived western air defense systems will help deal with the new threat of Iranian ballistic missiles reportedly being purchased by Russia.
Yuriy Ihnat, Air Force spokesperson, told a briefing in Kyiv that Ukraine might target the Iranian missiles at their launch sites, which would probably be well inside Russia.

Ihnat said the Iranian missiles have "a range of 300 and 700 kilometers, which in principle will not create anything new for Ukraine, because [Russian-made] Iskanders were used from the first day of the war."
"I think both the top military leadership and our partners are working on this issue, looking for effective ways to counter these new threats," Ihnat said.
He said that the Russians were unable to make progress on the battlefield and had resorted to attacking infrastructure supplying energy and water. "They want to hit energy facilities in the autumn-winter period first of all, because people's lives largely depend on them. This air terrorism will continue by all available means."
"It is clear that the missiles that will be received from Iran, if it is done, will be used at the energy infrastructure facilities, and [the Russians] will continue to strike with cruise missiles as well."
CNN reported on Nov. 1 that Iran is preparing to send about 1,000 additional weapons, including short range ballistic missiles and more attack drones, to Russia, citing officials from a western country that closely monitors Iran's weapons program.

he better show Iranian missiles first
Iran delegation as promised went to Europe to investigate the claims that Russia is using Iranian drones in Ukraine , guess what . the Ukrainian delegation didn't bother to show up , show they knew all these claims of Iranian drones are B.s and the Geran-2 is actually is made in Russia based on Iranian design , but why not make the false claims and buy sympathy Between clueless EU and USA masses .