Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

[Bengal71]

My Russian GF claims she is able to get money out of russia at quiet good exchange rates. Almost Spot rates, using a Chinese payment system, to get it into an asian bank account she has opened.

I dont know if its true, since she is woman and a russian I dont believe a darn thing she says.

Can you actually transfer money from a russian account into an asian one using some Chinese system if anyone knows?

If you can't even trust her on simple things like that then that's not a good GF.

 

[jhungary]

If you can't even trust her on simple things like that then that's not a good GF.

He is right tho, never trust a Russian or Ukrainian, used to date an Ukrainian once, if she is opening her mouth, she is lying, same thing with Russian.

You don't date Russian or Ukrainian because they are honest, you date them because they are good companion...

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1589599953143283713

 

[jhungary]

Wang Yi Meets with Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba of Ukraine

Look like China is walking back on the Russian, this should be fun.

 

[Hack-Hook]

That part is for your own side, noted "Party to the Conflict" and subsequent referral to "The Party to the conflict which is compelled to abandon wounded or sick to the enemy shall..." which suggest the article did not talk about the enemy.

Again, as my wife explained before, once he/she were handed over as a POW, then they were covered by 3rd Geneva Convention, before then, they are covered by the first, and the first only cover action to your own side.

Again, please don't venture into unknown, I don't know how much you know about law, if I have to guess, my wife probably know a lot more than you do, and I will defer to her expertise as a lawyer than you, which you once again come to fishman net argument, you just spread the net and see if you have any talking point, you first talked about 2nd Geneva Convention, which does not cover land combat, then you talk about 1st Geneva convention about the term Fallen and Unarmed, then my wife said you can be armed without armament at your hand, and now you are talking about first Geneva convention, which as my wife point out that the wording points to it applies to your own side.

If you keep doing that, I may need to charge you for my wife's time.

please ask your wife about the meaning of article 12
that part say if enemy can't evacuate its injured soldiers and you found them you must treat them but in such case they must leave some medical equipment with them . but nowhere it say you can abandon treating them if they don't leave any medical equipment , they just acted against the convention , its not mean you also can act against it and the first part i point is separate from it

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Projection?

China would have balkanized Russia under 3 months.

Wang Yi Meets with Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba of Ukraine

Look like China is walking back on the Russian, this should be fun.

Chinese are wise and they know that Russia will lose this war with NATO and be balkanized.

Check this thread

Has China dumped Russia for NATO?​

Has China dumped Russia for NATO?

Has China dumped Russia for NATO? Xi Jinping says China can work with U.S. ahead of G20 summit President Xi Jinping meets German Chancellor Olaf Scholz in China China’s Xi warns Putin not to use nuclear arms in Ukraine Chinese leader makes the call during a visit by German Chancellor Olaf...

defence.pk

 

[patero]

He is right tho, never trust a Russian or Ukrainian, used to date an Ukrainian once, if she is opening her mouth, she is lying, same thing with Russian.

You don't date Russian or Ukrainian because they are honest, you date them because they are good companion...

Yup, been through that with both Russian and Ukrainian women, not exactly the most truthful people I'd ever met. In fact of the hundreds of people I'd worked with from Russia and Ukraine I struggle to remember any of them not being pathological liars. 70 odd years under the Soviet system did that to them, creating a nation of liars and people who would not take responsibility for anything.

 

[jhungary]

please ask your wife about the meaning of article 12
that part say if enemy can't evacuate its injured soldiers and you found them you must treat them but in such case they must leave some medical equipment with them . but nowhere it say you can abandon treating them if they don't leave any medical equipment , they just acted against the convention , its not mean you also can act against it and the first part i point is separate from it

It never said "enemy", it expressly mentioned "Party of the Conflict" and then subsequently said "compelled to abandon wounded or sick to the enemy shall" It expressly mean your own party. That's number 1. It's not if you found them you must treat them, because that has explicitly covered by Article 3 of Geneva Convention. Simply because anyone you encountered that is NOT NEUTRAL, are considered enemy until the act of surrendering occured, otherwise, it would basically cover EVERYONE on the opposite side, whether or not they are wounded or armed.

And there is no First part or Second part, it refers to the same thing. Because they cannot be inconspicuous and mean one thing at one point another thing at another, because that's how people can argue the wording, which render the entire article/convention pointless, because you don't know which one, they are referring to.

Also, if what you interpreted is true, then it will make Article 12 of third Geneva Convention redundant. Because they are essentially saying the same thing.

Convention (III) relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War. Geneva, 12 August 1949.

RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE TREATMENT OF PRISONERS AND CONDITIONS FOR THEIR TRANSFER TO ANOTHER POWER
ARTICLE 12 [ Link ]

Prisoners of war are in the hands of the enemy Power, but not of the individuals or military units who have captured them. Irrespective of the individual responsibilities that may exist, the Detaining Power is responsible for the treatment given them.

Prisoners of war may only be transferred by the Detaining Power to a Power which is a party to the Convention and after the Detaining Power has satisfied itself of the willingness and ability of such transferee Power to apply the Convention. When prisoners of war are transferred under such circumstances, responsibility for the application of the Convention rests on the Power accepting them while they are in its custody.

Nevertheless if that Power fails to carry out the provisions of the Convention in any important respect, the Power by whom the prisoners of war were transferred shall, upon being notified by the Protecting Power, take effective measures to correct the situation or shall request the return of the prisoners of war. Such requests must be complied with.

Which mean either Red Cross were stupid enough to make redundant article, or what you are interpreting is wrong.

Yup, been through that with both Russian and Ukrainian women, not exactly the most truthful people I'd ever met. In fact of the hundreds of people I'd worked with from Russia and Ukraine I struggle to remember any of them not being pathological liars. 70 odd years under the Soviet system did that to them, creating a nation of liars and people who would not take responsibility for anything.

Well, yeah, they lies on just about anything. I remember the girl I used to date she told me she was 20 (I was 27) and there are no way she is 20 (She is much older)

I would say this is how they get by growing up, I mean, they're good people, it's not like they are lying to you to deceive you (well, not most of the time) but yes, in general you probably wouldn't buy a second hand car from them.....That's the trust level I have with them.

 

[The SC]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1589753476049170432

 

[The SC]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1589721826435158016

 

[khansaheeb]

Wang Yi Meets with Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba of Ukraine

Look like China is walking back on the Russian, this should be fun.

Doubt it, Chinese will say you have lost the war and now negotiate peace else it will get worse.

 

[jhungary]

Doubt it, Chinese will say you have lost the war and now negotiate peace else it will get worse.

Well, they could have said that 6 months ago when they refused to see the Ukrainian FM.

And you will have to be really naive to think Russia is at a better position than it was before the war. Chinese is anything but stupid, they know Russia from now on is going to be the stone that weighting down on China, basically Russia is becoming another North Korea. And Chinese don't need another North Korea.

It's pretty obvious China expect a swift Russian victory, and not this.

 

[gambit]

He is right tho, never trust a Russian or Ukrainian, used to date an Ukrainian once, if she is opening her mouth, she is lying, same thing with Russian.

You don't date Russian or Ukrainian because they are honest, you date them because they are good companion...

I heard that bars in Russia are now filled with mostly women...

 

[khansaheeb]

Well, they could have said that 6 months ago when they refused to see the Ukrainian FM.

And you will have to be really naive to think Russia is at a better position than it was before the war. Chinese is anything but stupid, they know Russia from now on is going to be the stone that weighting down on China, basically Russia is becoming another North Korea. And Chinese don't need another North Korea.

It's pretty obvious China expect a swift Russian victory, and not this.

There is no way Russia will lose any war, you must be naïve or deceitful to pretend otherwise , you are yearning for MAD , don't know why. Is your life that miserable and sick that you want to end it? What do you hope to achieve by provoking Russia even more?

 

[khansaheeb]