Reashot Xigwin
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Just give it up.you see different capabilities and different type of weapon , you want drones like byraktar TB2 , we have mohajer-6 , Ababil-5 , Kaman-12
you want something like switchblade we have yaser and Me'eraj 521,.....
you want low RCS attack drone we have shahed-171 and shahed-191
you want something like MQ-1 we have Shahed-129 .
you want drone to attack enemy radars we have Omid and Arash
you want bigger drone that can carry up to 500kg of weapons we have shahed-149 and kaman-22
and you want cheap drones to disable enemy double use infrastructure and keep them offline , we have Shahed-131, Shahed-136, Me'eraj-541, Ababil-2
you want a fast one to be able to deliver heavy punch , even be able to attack air target , we have Karrar
as you see 2-3 type for each class
Looks like Ukraine updated it to be autonomously driven
that means you claim Lebanon government is a terrorist stateJust give it up.
You claim iran is some drone supa powa yet they can’t even handle tiny Isreal directly, only through sending arms to terrorist states.
if you say so. then why each one or two week Ukraine call Iran about them, why there is no day passing by that they don't complain about it , why some English politician went to the extend to fabricate the narrative that Iran provide them to Russia is against the UN security council resolution 2231 (2015)As many others have pointed out these crappy drones aren’t turning the tide in Russia’s favor, they’re just using them to hit soft targets.
Just give it up.
You claim iran is some drone supa powa yet they can’t even handle tiny Isreal directly, only through sending arms to terrorist states.
As many others have pointed out these crappy drones aren’t turning the tide in Russia’s favor, they’re just using them to hit soft targets.
But please go on for pages more about mighty Iran who’s air force still consists of F-14’s and has to beat women who protest for rights that women all over the worlds have had for decades.
Looks like Ukraine updated it to be autonomously driven
If NATO would be attacked by Iranian drones, then Iran would find its drone factories being pulverized. Rules of war gives NATO the right to invade Iran in self defense if Iran delivers military equipment to its enemies.Please do reference what wunderweapon nato has to counter the doritos?
In what quantity?
At what production rate?
If all of the above doesnt match the dorito, that means you have a strategic problem.
Yes we know ridiculously priced western 500 k missiles can take them down. But if they are not available because the.cost is too much, or they cant produce enough or whatever other excuse you come up with. The. You have a seriousssss strategic problem.
Also 100k stingers are on video repeatedly missing the shaheds… i dont recal many (or any) footage of a successful intercept from stingers.
If ukies are taking these down like they say. They wouldnt have so much buttthurt and they wouldnt be so desperate for AD
But like i said before pastry man. The ukies are taking 3 out per ak round. So whats the problem here?
Im sure when fateh’s and their 500kg warheads coming in at mach 4 on ukie heads smae thing will happen. , we will just experience more breathtaking rambo ukies shooting them down with hunting rifles and slingshots #natopropaganda
Seems like Russia is abandoning Kherson
It absolutely is, car bombing their own leaders sure isn’t democratic.that means you claim Lebanon government is a terrorist state
some may say Israel and USA can't deal with Iran directly only by some desperate act of terror .
if you say so. then why each one or two week Ukraine call Iran about them, why there is no day passing by that they don't complain about it , why some English politician went to the extend to fabricate the narrative that Iran provide them to Russia is against the UN security council resolution 2231 (2015)
and how you explain this
The targets you listed are soft as I’ve previously said.Tiny Israel has the support of the US and the entire West. If the Freemasonry world weren't supporting them, there wouldn't have been Israel in the first place.
With respect to the Iranian drones that the Russians have deployed, they sure shut down the power, energy, and rail systems of Ukraine. They've also been used to show the locations of the air defense systems that the Ukrainians were using to target the Shaheed 131 and 136 drones. Then Russian air force or other drones follow and take them out. So in essence, Shaheed - 131 and 136 allowed the Russian military to fill a void in their operations.
Besides, if the Iranian weapons shipments to Russia were not as effective as you claimed, why are the the US State Department, EU, and NATO secretary General constantly making a fuzz about them? The endless noise from Western leaders clearly show the effectiveness of these cheap drones.
Now youre just beating a strawman. I was asking you what “ the best NATO has to offer” meant. I guess the best NATO has to offer against strikes like that are rifles, manpads and very expensive missiles which isnt available, yet Ukraine is desperate for anti aircraft systems from NATO??
Doesnt make much sense to me. You just said the best NATO has to offer is already there.
If NATO would be attacked by Iranian drones, then Iran would find its drone factories being pulverized. Rules of war gives NATO the right to invade Iran in self defense if Iran delivers military equipment to its enemies.
Targeting civilian infrastructure is not a win. You tosh. Also Is Tajikistan rich? & Kazakhstan & their neighboring countries buying up Bayraktar. My point still stand.
No we don't buy it. Because Iranian made drone is shit.
intresting point about that bombing is that hezbollah show evident that Israel was observing the incidentIt absolutely is, car bombing their own leaders sure isn’t democratic.
responsibility is by user not producer so they can complain to RussiaDo you not expect Ukraine to complain as civilians are killed using irans crappy flying bikes?
How far back in history do you have to reach for glory? I really dont care what happend more than a thousend years ago.They have gone against and humiliated this from the saudis:
- Remote-controlled air/ground radio communications sites.
- 17 Lockheed Martin AN/FPS-117 long-range phased array, 3-dimensional air search radar.
- 6 Northrop-Grumman AN/TPS-43 portable 3-dimensional tactical air search radar.
- Raytheon Improved HAWK air defense missile system.
- Raytheon MIM-104 Patriot air defense missile system
- Oerlikon Contraves Skyguard 35mm Twin Cannon Short Range air defense system
- Lockheed Martin THAAD anti-ballistic missile defense system.
This is what happened to a US airbase where one would assume would have all the latest nato garbage?
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Why werent the americans able to intercept a single one? Why js it that they hit their targets with pinpoint accuracy? Why is it the US stood down after openly threatning war if Iran attacked?
And now we see german AD showing their uselessnes in ukraine.
Please tell me what wunderweapon is left? What isthis magic secret weapon nato has that its notsupplying the ukies with?
I suggest you stick to topics more in your wheelhouse. Such as :
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And keep in mind that you were still cavemen when Roman emperors like valerian, philip, julian the apostate were on their knees begging Iranian shahanshahs for their lives. Keep that jn mind before you talk down to Iran and ridicule Iranian achievements pastry man
Iran would anahilate the US 5th fleet , american bases in the middle east and any poor outposts they have in syria in about a week if the US fires a firecracker at Iranian territory
Iran has openly fired at american bases, captured american troops and shot down 500 million dollar us “stealth” drones , and indirectly slauthered 1000s of american troops in iraq without an american response. Its not because of their bighearts that they ate those.
Beaides nukes, the US conventional forces in the middle east region would get absolutely anahilated by Iran in a total war scenario. Iran doesnt even consider Israel a peer anymore. Once israel can handle a single irgc division in lebanon they can come challenge Iran.