Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

[Viet]

Russian Commander Says He's 'Depressed' by How War Is Turning Out​

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That will end very ugly for Russia. We live in 21 century how can one invade another sovereign country with faked pretext and hope he can walk away from this? what a delusion.
Putin is ex Soviet spy he has learned nothing in life than lies and deceptions.
Russia is finished. Putin is pushing his country into abyss and nobody can stop him. What a tragedy.

 

[aviator_fan]

These guys are so spoiled.

Don't judge a soldier unless you have been one or your country mates have prevailed in a war. Pathetic performance in Vietnam so unless you emerged victorious, don't judge what the losing side feels like.

Experience over the civilian population under COVID lock-downs or quelling civiian protests under the guise of 'public security' does not count. Probably the only major Chinese engagement that could be given credit is the skirmish against India. But it was more of a martial arts contest and wrestling and sticks. No weapons, combined armed operations

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Don't judge a soldier unless you have been one or your country mates have prevailed in a war. Pathetic performance in Vietnam so unless you emerged victorious, don't judge what the losing side feels like.

Experience over the civilian population under COVID lock-downs or quelling civiian protests under the guise of 'public security' does not count. Probably the only major Chinese engagement that could be given credit is the skirmish against India. But it was more of a martial arts contest and wrestling and sticks. No weapons, combined armed operations

These men grew up spoiled, having a good life, never seen combat for a single day. Ukrainians grew up in war and destruction in the past 8 years. Russians compared to Ukrainians are pussies.

 

[aviator_fan]

Schadenfreude in action,

https://twitter.com/x/status/1569283323507388419

No ejection either...no chance to survive. How does this happen in a two engine jet to have complete failure

We can be sure that Poutine have plans B and C for himself just in case Russia lost the war. All those 'offshore' bank accts. I doubt that Poutine would be so careless that he would have an 'accident' somewhere in Moscow.

Unless China shelters him, his options for Plans are fairly limited. He won't go to N. Korea: he could never use the money there. The major reasons the despots steal money is to go then spend it and show off where it really matters , in Europe, so they can be considered worthy. This is the reason for the big mansions and $100M yacths in famous destinations. Taking it to N. Korea just not going to do it.

So very limited options (may be Venezuela). No I think he is going down this ship like Qaddafi and Saddam did. They had bad advice and then were committed to their death.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Unless China shelters him, his options for Plans are fairly limited. He won't go to N. Korea: he could never use the money there. The major reasons the despots steal money is to go then spend it and show off where it really matters , in Europe, so they can be considered worthy. This is the reason for the big mansions and $100M yacths in famous destinations. Taking it to N. Korea just not going to do it.

So very limited options (may be Venezuela). No I think he is going down this ship like Qaddafi and Saddam did. They had bad advice and then were committed to their death.

Don't forget Yanukovych is still in Russia.

 

[Viet]

No ejection either...no chance to survive. How does this happen in a two engine jet to have complete failure


Unless China shelters him, his options for Plans are fairly limited. He won't go to N. Korea: he could never use the money there. The major reasons the despots steal money is to go then spend it and show off where it really matters , in Europe, so they can be considered worthy. This is the reason for the big mansions and $100M yacths in famous destinations. Taking it to N. Korea just not going to do it.

So very limited options (may be Venezuela). No I think he is going down this ship like Qaddafi and Saddam did. They had bad advice and then were committed to their death.

Putin is Stalin redux. He wants surrounded only by loyal stooges. He will not let anyone suspicious to him. Any coup d’e’tat or assassination is futile. All his opponents are dead, poisoned, imprisoned, or in gulags.

 

[aviator_fan]

Russian gains were large cities like Mariupol, Severodonetsk, Kherson, Melitopol, Berdyansk. Ukrainian gains were small cities like Izium, Kupyansk.

Gains in Ukraine at expense of collapse in world standing, exposing a worthless Air Force, and dependence on third rate countries like N. Korea, and inability to reach the objective it reached out to: to completely dismantle the Ukrainian leadership which is why they targeted Kiev.

To have such an aspiration, and then not achieve it, and then start the abandonment is the utlimate humiliation. Worth it to hold on to the 4-5 cities for now? Time will tell.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Gains in Ukraine at expense of collapse in world standing, exposing a worthless Air Force, and dependence on third rate countries like N. Korea, and inability to reach the objective it reached out to: to completely dismantle the Ukrainian leadership which is why they targeted Kiev.

To have such an aspiration, and then not achieve it, and then start the abandonment is the utlimate humiliation. Worth it to hold on to the 4-5 cities for now? Time will tell.

Ukrainians are much tougher than Russians. Ukrainians grew up in war and destruction. Russians grew up spoiled. Russians compared to Ukrainians are pussies. Only Chechens can go mano y mano with Ukrainians.

 

[aviator_fan]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1569465591114735616

Ukraine population falling fast. The man power advantaging shifts to Russia over the coming years and decades. It is not about how many soldiers you have today. It's about how many soldiers you have tomorrow.

Everytime you say something like this,it seems you are trying to get away from something you know is not true. Its happened before on your baseless points on burning of gas flames by another expert or this being a forever war.. So I will call you on this. Pls don't do this as it takes away from otherwise good (albeit opposing and thats what we are here for) sources you share

Ukraine's male population is in the country. Where do you get to its population is declining.
A simple search will tell you that Russia's population is in a decline. A million fewer people between 2019 and 2020. In the 90s it took an entire decade to reduce that much. That process will now further accelerate. Their fertility ratio is 1.8. You need to be at 2.1 to maintain your population. It is the same situation that several countries including EU and China are in.

So Russia has committed majority of its assets trying to take an insignificant military force. They are going 4th world countries to get weapons. And it has not a growing population 'tomorrow' as you say it.

And finally, lets say even if it was not in a population decline: its the will to fight that matters and how as an attacking army you can mobilize and motivate your soldiers. The way Russians are running off, its clear motiviation and morale is at zero.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Worth it to hold on to the 4-5 cities for now? Time will tell.

Kherson is vital to Crimea's water supply from Dnipr river. Zaporizhia and Mariupol are vital to land bridge to Crimea. These places are defended at all costs. Ukrainians cannot take these back.

Ukraine's male population is in the country. Where do you get to its population is declining.
A simple search will tell you that Russia's population is in a decline. A million fewer people between 2019 and 2020. In the 90s it took an entire decade to reduce that much. That process will now further accelerate. Their fertility ratio is 1.8. You need to be at 2.1 to maintain your population. It is the same situation that several countries including EU and China are in.

Both Ukraine and Russia have population decline. America has birth rate 1.6 per woman. America has population decline if there is no illegal immigration from Mexico.

Ukraine population is declining faster than Russia population decline. Over the coming years and decades Russians will out number Ukrainians more and more as Ukraine's infrastructure is wrecked by cruise missiles and Ukrainians flee to the West in the millions.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Ukrainians are much tougher than Russians. Ukrainians grew up in war and destruction. Russians grew up spoiled. Russians compared to Ukrainians are pussies. Only Chechens can go mano y mano with Ukrainians.

Are you mad? their own old defense systems of Ukraine Downing their best jets their best tanks so what's your point?

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

And finally, lets say even if it was not in a population decline: its the will to fight that matters and how as an attacking army you can mobilize and motivate your soldiers. The way Russians are running off, its clear motiviation and morale is at zero.

Ukrainians are much tougher than Russians. Ukrainians grew up in war and destruction. Russians grew up spoiled. Russians compared to Ukrainians are pussies. Only Chechens can go mano y mano with Ukrainians.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Ukrainians are much tougher than Russians. Ukrainians grew up in war and destruction. Russians grew up spoiled. Russians compared to Ukrainians are pussies. Only Chechens can go mano y mano with Ukrainians.

Stop your nonsense here you fake Chinese

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Ukrainians are much tougher than Russians. Ukrainians grew up in war and destruction. Russians grew up spoiled. Russians compared to Ukrainians are pussies. Only Chechens can go mano y mano with Ukrainians.

Ukranians are bandera Nazis. They are tough.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Ukranians are bandera Nazis. They are tough.

Nope. Here in Canada there are plenty of Ukrainians and they are pussies because they didn't grow up in war and destruction like the people in Ukraine did.