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Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

Situation 1: 2022-2023 israel increases several illegal settlements. 10km2 land taken. 100 deaths.

Lets see what the “hypocrite west” does.

EU supports UN resolution against israel military action.

EU supports two state solution

EU requires products from israel to be labelled, and popular boycott on israeli products increases

EU is the largest aid donor to palestine


Situation 2: russia invades ukraine.

An act of aggression that sees 20 times more refugees then the nakba. 100 times more land taken then the nakba. 10 times more ukranian deaths then the nakba.



“Righteous” Muslim world. Votes in general against russian agression in UN.

But….thats about it…..



And what do several “righteous muslims” on this forum do? Quoting….

“Let whites/europeans kill eachother. Good for us”

“Whatabout palestine!!!!”

“cheerleading russia..multipolar world!”

“We expose Western hypocrites!”



My oh my what are those westerners the racist hypocrites huh?? @Corax

So you're arguing "whataboutery" by saying it's ok for Israel to invade Palestine becuase it involved a smaller landmass and affected fewer people than Russia's invasion of Ukraine?! That's your justification why it's ok for Israel but no ok for Russia?! Wtf kind of twisted logic is that?! This is a classic hypocrite, you make black white and white black. Carry on if it makes you feel better. Like I said before, history teaches us that every dog has its day, enjoy your day while it lasts.

Why does the US veto every resolution against Israel? Why has Israel been allowed to construct illegal settlements in occupied land and force Palestinians from their homes? Why doesn't the west supply the Palestinians with HIMARS and sophisticated weapons to defend itself from illegal invasion and occupation? Why are there no major economic and military sanctions against Israel? Why does the US provide unflinching military aid and guarantee Isabel's security allowing it to literally get away with invasion, occupation, and murder? See your hypocrisy?!
 
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Let me get this straight, so you are saying since so many Ukrainian died and they should stop their offensive?? Do you know what is a war? This war is about survival for them, it's a total war for them. yes I was there, I asked many people in Ukraine from all over, you don't stop when you are taking casualty. You only stop when either you kill them all, or they kill you all, you want them to stop? killed 45 millions Ukrainian then they will stop

But then good to know you think if someone barge into your home, killed your parent and your sons and F'ed your wife and daughter, you will become their obedient slave because you have taken too much "Casualty". I guess it's good to know China have people like you defending their homeland.
And this is why Chinese couldn’t prevail over Vietnam in 1978. Vietnamese stood their ground, died, and the only Chinese offensive of 20th century was a disaster. I think the mindset may be that when an invader comes, the one invaded should just enslave themselves and had the Vietnamese done it, it would have benefited China.


I am surprise how compassionate Han Patriot is about Ukrainian lives as if they are being paraded at gunpoint to fight for their country

Are you a loser or just made a mistake: where is the Official statement , not your typed wet dream.
 
So you're arguing "whataboutery" by saying it's ok for Israel to invade Palestine becuase it involved a smaller landmass and affected fewer people than Russia's invasion of Ukraine?! That's your justification why it's ok for Israel but no ok for Russia?! Wtf kind of twisted logic is that?!
Breathe corax
Stop and use your brain corax

I am not saying that.

I say that the west cares more in situation 1, then many muslims do in situation 2. With situation 2 being on a scale 20 times the nakba.

Absolute trash morality corax
Absolute hypocrisy where the life of 1 palestinian counts more then thousands of ukranians?


This is a classic hypocrite, you make black white and white black. Carry on if it makes you feel better. Like I said before, history teaches us that every dog has its day, enjoy your day while it lasts.

you point a finger yet four fingers are pointing back at yourself.

Hypocrite.
 
France is shipping 90% of its aid to Ukraine through EU.
If You want to know why, You have better ask them.
But first You should ask your government why it is shipping less aid than France.
Share stats on 90% of this aid (specifically $ amounts). Since you (this is not accusatory) are familiar with this situation then back it up with data, not give the task to somebody else. Otherwise you are just spewing garbge and hoping somebody gets convinced by your emotion or repeat typing of same information without any data to back it up
 
But first You should ask your government why it is shipping less aid than France.
Especially when it was Britain which fanatically insisted on supporting Ukraine's war effort,when Germany and France wanted to find a diplomatic solution.

Remember how USA,Britain and the Baltics countries were obsessed with getting involved in Ukraine.
 
Why has Israel been allowed to construct illegal settlements in occupied land and force Palestinians from their homes?

Because the Israeli courts are using Ottoman law for any court case on the West Bank.
According to that law, you do not own land in the modern sense. You have rights to land that you traditionally used. You can sell it. If you move and do not use the land, the ownership reverts to the state, and You lose your right.
According to the Ottoman law, anyone leaving Israel in 1948, legally lost their property in 1950/51.

This has allowed Israel ownership to deserted barren hills in the West Bank, which is where their legal settlements are built.

Maybe Muslims should not have created laws simplifying Ethnical Cleansing, using it to grab land after the Armenian genocide.

Israel and the PLO negotiated a deal in Oslo which assigns West Bank lands to category A,B and C. Israel can according to the deal evict people that build stuff in Category C territory.

You may want to explain what on earth this has to do with Ukraine…

Share stats on 90% of this aid (specifically $ amounts). Since you (this is not accusatory) are familiar with this situation then back it up with data, not give the task to somebody else. Otherwise you are just spewing garbge and hoping somebody gets convinced by your emotion or repeat typing of same information without any data to back it up
That has already been provided earlier in the thread,
 
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Breathe corax
Stop and use your brain corax

I am not saying that.

I say that the west cares more in situation 1, then many muslims do in situation 2. With situation 2 being on a scale 20 times the nakba.

Absolute trash morality corax
Absolute hypocrisy where the life of 1 palestinian counts more then thousands of ukranians?




you point a finger yet four fingers are pointing back at yourself.

Hypocrite.

No, I never claimed one life is worth more than another. I simply showed the west's hypocrisy. Your hypocrisy. Make the most of your day while you still have it.
 
which i regularly do. Especially towards USA who is drip feeding support while it has thousands of army stock sitting in deserts.

Why are you so defensive of fair constructive criticism towards France?
Germany was extremely pacifistic and budgetted away most of its army. However It gives twice as much per GDP as France (which actually still had a decent army).
France is a laggard in the european list of supporters.
Why? To maintain fall-back relations with russia?
Would be too unpopular with french voters?
Not to stir the pot, though I used to read the Kyiv Independent on twitter and elsewhere, and the hatred shown to the Germans by the English-speakers (mainly the Anglos or Poles) was sickening. Germans were blamed and hated for not handing over their entire military stockpile to Ukraine while US and UK sit safely away from the war sitting on huge stockpiles of weapons.

Back when the American public supported helping Ukraine, US weapons were given rarely quickly and not in enough numbers to turn the tide of war. Never enough to finish off the Russians in Ukraine. As Ukraine stalls because not enough help was given, American support dwindles. The US media which I complained about for months, refused to do sob stories about the suffering of Ukrainians as various Ukrainian independent media does. I go instead to media that gives the full picture of events in Ukraine. Those that show kids having to do physical therapy because they lost legs. Those that show stories of families suffering from lost loved ones. These media stories with interviews should have been on MSNBC, CNN and other US media outlets. A new daily interview from suffering Ukrainians - raped, dismembered, family members that lost children asking for more aid to fight the Russians. The US media had American support for Ukraine at the beginning of the war and deliberately watched it dwindle to only a minority of Americans support sending aid to Ukraine.

A CNN poll released earlier this summer charted growing Republican opposition to aid in Ukraine, and found 55% of the full public opposed to Congress authorizing more funding to support Ukraine, rising to 71% among Republicans. A majority of the public overall did favor some specific forms of aid, such as help with intelligence gathering (63% support) and military training (53% support).
Polling from other organizations this fall has confirmed this shift.

for instance, CNN, literally the worst of the worst media in the US because CNN pretends to be liberal and caring, gave the anti-Ukraine version of statistics of US aid sent to Ukraine.

$113 billion: Where the US investment in Ukraine aid has gone​


Newsweek fact checked the numbers and found it needed significant context (a whole article) because it is misleading:

Fact Check: Is RFK Jr. Right That U.S. Has Sent $113 Billion to Ukraine?​


From the CNN article you could get the idea that the US is wasting too much money on Ukraine, as Republicans are saying 113 billion is too much. While Newsweek says the US is not giving as much to Ukraine as the anti-Ukraine crowd says Ukraine is getting.

To get the public to support the Persian Gulf War, CNN gave the fake news of incubator babies. To get public support of the Iraq War, CNN "flooded the airwaves with generals and ex-Pentagon stoolies"
Had there been daily Iraqi sob stories from Iraqis suffering from Saddam, the US media would have flooded the airwaves with these sob stories to get public support for the Iraq War, the media accepted an invented story for the Persian Gulf War.

16 Years Later, How the Press That Sold the Iraq War Got Away With It​


Notice how Republican "isolationists" want a conflict to stop the rise of nuclear armed China. Cheering for a Taiwan incident. Yet sending weapons to defend Europe - these anti-Ukraine Russia-bots turn into instant "pacifists". Republicans are frauds.

Unnecessary wars staged by deepstate cronies - CNN is partly a cheerleader in the wars Washington wants to be involved in. For a war with China, Fox News and the US media are going to beat the war drums to get the population in lock-step obedient to MAGA Republicans wanting a war with nuclear China. "Can't have conflict with Russia. they have nukes. Can have conflict with China, they have nukes". Does not make sense unless there is an agenda.

For the War on Europe, the war threatening NATO Europe... no daily sob stories from interviewed Ukrainian victims of the war begging Americans for more help to defend their country. And that is only what it takes to get the American public support for Ukraine, and the US media deliberately denies that to the public. Not one media outlet doing this. Though NBC gives domestic terrorist insurrectionist Trump a platform to spew lies:


This is the same media that says "don't bar Trump from office for supporting/leading an insurrection". During the entire American civil war the confederates never captured the Capitol building, Trumpers trying to steal an election did take over the Capitol Building, to overturn an election. That is a coup, that is an insurrection, and the liberal media says, don't go after Trump on that obvious way to stop Trump via the 14th Amendment. The cia US media, cia controlled Democrats and Kissinger-run Trump are in on it together. This is why Ukraine is never given enough weapons to crush the Russians. Biden is blackmailed by the US cia Anglo-Republican deepstate.

The US media is unwatchable because the "liberal media" pretend to be on your side, then does things deliberately to make your side look bad to Americans. For instance, promoting castration to kids with trans stuff. Yet the media did not demand Obama to grant amnesty and citizenship to illegals in 2009 to give Democrats near super majority of voters in every election. Nor did the "liberal media" demand Puerto Rico and DC statehood to give Democrats more senators. Though they sure did defend castration being promoted to kids to make the left look bad to moderates. The liberal media are cia handlers to the left to manage the left and to elect cia Republicans, that is as clear as day. The whole news cycle is there to wane support of Ukraine and expand support of Trump and Republicans.

Europe needs to rearm because a majority of Americans don't want to send more aid to Ukraine. Trump plans to return. And the media does little to boost support for Ukraine, Europe, or really stopping Trump. MAGA Trumpers hate Olbermann, take a listen to Olbermann once in a while to learn about American politics: https://www.youtube.com/@CountdownWithKO/videos

Former Primetime political commentator Olbermann is unorthodox and a realist.

Republicans are taught because liberals teach castration to kids, Ukrainians must lose. Because Mexicans are crossing the border, Ukrainians must lose. Because of wokeness... Ukrainians must lose. Republicans are the victims, while Ukrainians should sue for peace.

The conservatives are sold fake victimhood. It is how Republicans maintain a voting population, maintain political control. Without the fake victimhood of Republicans, Anglo-Republicans collapse.

The Conservative Cult of Victimhood​

Why the Republican cult of victimhood is so dangerous​



Putin Is 'Grand Godfather of Extreme Nationalism' – Clinton


While tankies and fake anti imperialists are taught because of the Bush wars... Ukrainians must lose.
Absolute hypocrisy where the life of 1 palestinian counts more then thousands of ukranians?
The tankies and fake anti-imperialists have turned into those they supposedly dislike - Rabbi Yaacov Perrin: "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail."

"One million Ukrainians are not worth an Arab Palestinian fingernail."

It is only going to get worse for Europe. Europe needs self-sufficiency and self-reliance for economic, military, societal and political affairs.

The psy-ops from both sides are going to be layered. The Ukraine War has switched to getting Europe on the side of Trump, as Trump imposes a Russia style autocracy in the USA. If Europe accepts Trump and does not complain, perhaps Europe would have limited mob boss protection from Trump from fellow mob boss Putin. Remember how much of the globe was prey to imperialist nations many decades ago. That is Europe's fate to be prey to Washington, London, Moscow or Beijing if Europe does not wise up.

Europe is to be deminished, that is the role the tankies and anti-imperialists play, to belittle Europe as a place of "evil whitey". While the EU knows its lowly place.

Trump wants the BRICS to challenge Europe, while offering mob boss protection to Europe, to know your place as a junior partner.

In a way, MAGA, if you want to drill down, is about re-creating America's golden age."

MAGA is the final stage of PNAC. As in the Bush PNAC cia wars.
you point a finger yet four fingers are pointing back at yourself.

Hypocrite.
Maybe you recall the tankies and fake anti-imperialists attempting to dehumanize Ukrainians for Iraq War support. The Ukrainian government that sent troops to Iraq were pro-Russia. The Ukrainian government that helped the US in Iraq - Prime Minister and President - were on the side of Russia. Pro-Russia Viktor Yanukovych was the Prime Minister of Ukraine that got involved in Iraq. And the President was Leonid Kuchma. Leonid Kuchma supported the pro-Russia Party of Regions candidate Viktor Yanukovych in the 2004 election.
 
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Jesus ...
Whities (and Jews especially if you look at their % in the slave trades, no matter Christian/Muslim organized) did enslave 8-12 Million Blacks.
African tribal leaders got a weapons, money other stuff and liked it too!
Muslims did enslave Blacks LONGER, much more brutal (cutting their nuts, to make them Eunuchs, so they don't engage with nice Muslim beauties, 60% died) and stopped first when Whities hit them hard in the face and forced them to stop. 12-14 Million, only on a more primitive, less efficient level.
Nearly all anti-slavery movements were from WHITE CHRISTIAN nation.
Pls don't annoy with Bilal the slave who became Muslim.
WW1/WW2, only in WW1 there was ONE islamic nation which could, with help in training, equipment etc. participate in the war, Ottoman Empire.
WW2 Muslims/Islamic nations had no power.
WHEN Muslims had power, they attacked CHRISTIAN/PAGANS several hundred yrs before Christians striked hard back with the Crusades.

Childish black and white sight.
And yes, the creation of Israel wasn't nice but Arabs started wars and LOST.
And if the situation would be Vice versa not one cheeky Jew would be alive.
IF Israelis, Europeans and Americans were that bad, the Palestinians wouldn't exist anymore and no Iraqi or Afghan.


Nice story!
Constructing a narrative that let's you sleep at night?
Or, does it even matter?

Whites were, remain, a race!
Arabs, NOT!

Christianity propagated by disciples got appropriated by the state... message muddled and dejour ensued.


Muslims were ruled by slaves!
Black, Turk and Persian!
Empires formed by them and yes, those same Arabs ruled/dominated/governed!


Second, for those seeking an Equivalence in Isreal...
Have Russians come back and claim Poland, Germany or parts of Central Asia after no less than two millenia first just randomly setting in purchasing land in the guise of ethnic, religious or former rule and then annexing it militarily uprooting people, destroying local livelihood/business/property, culture, language and abodes. Numbers don't even do justice considering the percentage affected overall. Perhaps then we could draw an equivalence. Until then don't let off that cope serum.
 
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Because the Israeli courts are using Ottoman law for any court case on the West Bank.
According to that law, you do not own land in the modern sense. You have rights to land that you traditionally used. You can sell it. If you move and do not use the land, the ownership reverts to the state, and You lose your right.
According to the Ottoman law, anyone leaving Israel in 1948, legally lost their property in 1950/51.

This has allowed Israel ownership to deserted barren hills in the West Bank, which is where their legal settlements are built.

Maybe Muslims should not have created laws simplifying Ethnical Cleansing. using it to grab land after the Armenian genocide.

Israel and the PLO negotiated a deal in Oslo which assigns West Bank lands to category A,B and C. Israel can according to the deal evict people that build stuff in Category C territory.

You may want to explain what on earth this has to do with Ukraine…


That has already been provided earlier in the thread,

Are you for real?! Under "international law" which you constantly pull out to justify the invasion of Iraq, isn't Israel's occupation of the west bank illegal? Are the settlements not illegal? And now you're going to jump through hoops and rings of fire to show that it's legal?! You are a joke, as are thr very laws which you proclaim to have the moral high ground. Have your day.
 
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