Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

[Bengal71]

We already discussed it and you very well knew that unsc resolution only allowed protecting civilian not attacking Gaddafi forces in middle of desert whenever they fought the rebels.


And the statistic show in first month of uprising for each 2 so called civilian died onj SAA personnel died and to me that's not consistent with your tale of peacefull demonstrators.
Also we still recall USA worked as airforce for isis and Al-nusra front


And you again forget it start in 2003 by lies fabricated by USA and it's so called free media and there was no justification for that.


Sent by USA there and USA failed to provide any evidence of their involvement in the wtc attacks to afghan government.

That guy is an extreme chutiya liar. He deliberately throws a bunch of lies so outrageous that others will have to respond and a back and forth starts with more outrageous lies. The goal is to get you distracted from the main topic. Ignore him.

 

[ZeGerman]

Russia expressed concerns about former Soviet states joining NATO, but NATO didn't positively address those concerns. It's NATO that's expanding close to Russia, not the opposite.
While I might be misinformed, your stance, my friend, seems to be tinged with hypocrisy.

So we have a former colonial empire who sees its iron control over other nations diminish.
With those nations then running to a defensive alliance for security against future russian agression (a long long history of russian abuse and invasions justifying this).

and we should instead leave these countries to the wolves because former colonizer russia still sees them as their backyard garden and is oh so sensitive?

Wow…half of europe then has some old “empire security concerns” it should take up militarily with the rest of the world….

 

[ADIL SHERDIL]

So we have a former colonial empire who sees its iron control over other nations diminish.
With those nations then running to a defensive alliance for security against future russian agression (a long long history of russian abuse and invasions justifying this).

and we should instead leave these countries to the wolves because former colonizer russia still sees them as their backyard garden and is oh so sensitive?

Wow…half of europe then has some old “empire security concerns” it should take up militarily with the rest of the world….

Well, this applies to nearly every nation worldwide, yet I haven't observed such vehement reactions from people regarding these matters. Speaking about Russian aggression, could you please specify how many conflicts Russia has initiated in over the past century and compare that with the number of conflicts initiated by the so-called champions of humanity during the same period? When the entire Europe, along with its parent, the USA, is virtually in your neighborhood, I suppose it's reasonable to expect certain consequences.

 

[ZeGerman]

Yes ofcourse the situation could have been handled with more diplomatic tact.
And especially America seems to like to push its own geopolitical interest too far.


However…this situation is much like a former girlfriend (ukraine) choosing a new partner (eu) and the ex (russia) thinking he can just beat her up till she comes back.

And Here we are either victim blaming:
“Ah the women was provoking her ex too much! “

Or blaming the third party:
“Why did that new guy come on to the women after the breakup? you know russia has a temper!”

While russia is now trying to strangle ukraine to death….
yeah but….whatabout…






You know what russia could have done?
Treat its allies and “subordinates” normally.
The carrot and not only the stick.

It has massive resource wealth. How about sharing that trade and wealth and becoming an attractive alternative to the EU…or hell…alongside the EU

Ukraine had 20% population wanting to join Nato.
You know why and when that changed?
2014…invasion crimea and donbass after ukraine wanted to join EU. Now 50% wanted to join Nato.
2022, another war of aggression by russia, this time wanting to completely dominate ukraine, or carve it up. Now 85% wants to join Nato.
Finland and sweden now wanting to join as a bonus.


Yet we are blaming the ukranians for wanting to join Nato now???
Maybe russia should instead tone down on its quick “let me beat some sense into her” reflex??? Russias actions themselves is the main driving cause behind all these eastern european countries becoming alienated from “Russky Mir”

 

[F-22Raptor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1702246671629910485

https://twitter.com/x/status/1702217513050779876

https://twitter.com/x/status/1702237027121389840

Ukraine has launched a successful attack on Russian S-300 and S-400 batteries in Crimea

 

[sammuel]

could you please specify how many conflicts Russia has initiated in over the past century

You mean other than starting WW2 and occupiying half of Europe ?

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[ZeGerman]

Well, this applies to nearly every nation worldwide, yet I haven't observed such vehement reactions from people regarding these matters.

Wrong.

1 example:
Netherlands saw indonesia as integral part of the empire.
In 1945-50 we fought a colonial war but were forced to stop (USA pressure).

Now..70 years later. We have the king and parliament apologizing for it, and paying reparations. National consensus is one of shame for that war.
Relations diplomatically and between people are generaly good and improving:

Indonesia-Netherlands’ Partnership Beyond 2.0: The Highlights of the Relationship between Indonesia and the Netherlands - Diplomat magazine

By H.E. I Gusti Agung Wesaka Puja, Ambassador of the Republic of Indonesia to the Kingdom of the Netherlands. The relations between Indonesia and the Netherlands dates back years ago. This relation, which can be characterized as very close and dynamic, have been subjected to various ups and...

diplomatmagazine.eu

Russia…committed the holodomor against ukraine in the early 1930s

Now…in 2023…russia claims ukraine is integral to its empire. Tries to annex half the country and sets up torture rooms in every city. Denies ukranian statehood.
large majority (their former soviet little brother) hates them now.

Russia acts like colonial west from the early 1900….in 2023…that is the problem.
Its quite unprecedented in modern times.

Speaking about Russian aggression, could you please specify how many conflicts Russia has initiated in over the past century and compare that with the number of conflicts initiated by the so-called champions of humanity during the same period? When the entire Europe, along with its parent, the USA, is virtually in your neighborhood, I suppose it's reasonable to expect certain consequences.

Nations have sovereign rights and can choose their friends and partners.

Russia needs to get its mindset out of colonial times.

And…why do you think russia grew to the largest nation on earth??
Especially eastern europe (and can you list how many wrongs they have done?) are often victims of its oppression and aggression.

List of wars involving Russia - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Also please drop the “ukranians need to die by russia cause WHATABOUT AMERICA” twisted logic.

 

[Haldorss]

You mean other than starting WW2 and occupiying half of Europe ?

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Why are you so cringeworthy?

In 1945-50 we fought a colonial war but were forced to stop (USA pressure).

And you are not acting like you know that Anglosaxons wiped out two large continents to settle them. You are taking the wrong path like losers. We know you dutch voted against German reunification. You need to WAKE UP.

Nations have sovereign rights and can choose their friends and partners.

No, They, Aren't. We all know NATO is all white. You're fooling NO ONE. Modern borders make no sense and are like sand.

"Waaaaah USA told us to stop, so we did. Now we feel bad, while USA doesn't feel bad about doing much worse and we are idiots who don't notice because like Belgians we're Anglophiles"

Russias doing the right thing which is not to comply with foreign trash.

 

[Viet]

Germany sends another arms package to Ukraine.
But Taurus long range cruise missiles are still missing on the list.

A “Marder” infantry fighting vehicle of the German armed forces Bundeswehr drives through the mud during the informative educational practice “Land Operation Exercise 2017” at the military training area in Munster, northern Germany, on October 13, 2017. (AFP)

New German military aid for Ukraine: Infantry vehicles, drones, demining tanks

Germany will send Ukraine a new military aid package which will include demining tanks, drones, and infantry fighting vehicles, according to the German

english.alarabiya.net

 

[ZeGerman]

Lets do an alternative history scenario!


1947. Pakistan votes independance from britain. But India remains.
2022. Pakistan seeks closer ties to China.

British/India (brindia?) then invades and tries to implement a puppet regime or carve pakistan up in half as to make it a failed landlocked rump state. “There is not really a thing as a pakistani state or culture…its just India” their leader states.
Welcome back home little indians.


I mean…thats completely defendable right?
Pakistan was provoking!
China should have backed off!
What about britain/indias important security interests!
Whatabout china with its inner mongolia land grabbing!

Exactly the same “arguments” we see used here now.

 

[Haldorss]

Let them try. That's why there needs to be a strong axis to dissuade the Anglosaxon global menace.

 

[Beny Karachun]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1702000893019803822

https://twitter.com/x/status/1702004002286702737

Satellite photo confirming the destruction of the Ropucha class landing ship and Improved Kilo class submarine.

Huge losses for Russia

It's all a part of the 3 day special operation plan, be sure about that.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1702055925987917966

Russia is kicking arse irrespective of what NAFO shills and their minions state online.,

 

[Mohsin A]

What the heck is this....lol!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1701935799707517128

https://twitter.com/x/status/1702000365107925230

 

[ZeGerman]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1702055925987917966

Russia is kicking arse irrespective of what NAFO shills and their minions state online.,

What a shit twitterpost.

Russia lost well over 2000 tanks and fired through 12-16 million ammo rounds.
Its burning through its massive standing army and soviet stocks.
Estimates are that it lost 50% of its capability since the war.


Good that they are cannabilizing their budget and economy to double tank and ammo production….but with that rate it will take them 10 years just to rebuild what was lost in a year.

You do the math