Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

[Beny Karachun]

Ukraine received the first batch in 2018 after Poroshenko met Trump in the Washington. Trump made the decision after he met Putin in Hamburg in 2017.

Trump admin approves new sale of anti-tank weapons to Ukraine

The Trump administration has approved the $39M sale of defensive lethal weapons to Ukraine, according to two U.S. officials and another source familiar with the plan.

abcnews.go.com

Ukraine receives U.S. Javelin systems: Poroshenko

Ukraine has received the first U.S. Javelin missiles and launch units, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said on Monday.

www.reuters.com

Huh, I didn't know that.

That's in contrast to @A.P. Richelieu though, turns out Trump approved to sell them weapons? Is that an action appropriate for Putin's puppet?

Anyway, ATGMs are tactical, defensive weapons, some might even consider them light arms.

If the separatists in Ukraine back then "were not Russian soldiers" and "were not using Russian tanks", then there is no wrong with equipping them with Javelins from the viewpoint of Russia

 

[Viet]

Huh, I didn't know that.

That's in contrast to @A.P. Richelieu though, turns out Trump approved to sell them weapons? Is that an action appropriate for Putin's puppet?

Anyway, ATGMs are tactical, defensive weapons, some might even consider them light arms.

If the separatists in Ukraine back then "were not Russian soldiers" and "were not using Russian tanks", then there is no wrong with equipping them with Javelins from the viewpoint of Russia

Trump has business links to Russia but he is not corrupt. He threatened North Korea with nuclear war. He would do it. There is no doubt. As president he has in the hands.
He imposed sanctions and tariffs on China after he met communist leader Xi Jinping in Beijing. Although the Chinese tried all means to honey him. There is no doubt, either Trump would wage a total war against China, Russia and North Korea.

 

[Beny Karachun]

Trump has business links to Russia but he is not corrupt. He threatened North Korea with nuclear war. He would do it. There is no doubt. As president he has in the hands.
He imposed sanctions and tariffs on China after he met communist leader Xi Jinping in Beijing.

So what? So did the Biden family.
Especially the cocaine addict Hunter which the FBI, using Twitter and Meta,covered his laptop story from the public to help out Biden in the election.

Trump is a businessman, China tried to play the US and they got what they deserved for it.

There is no doubt either Trump would a total war against China, Russia and North Korea.

Nonsense.

 

[Viet]

So what? So did the Biden family.
Especially the cocaine addict Hunter which the FBI, using Twitter and Meta,covered his laptop story from the public to help out Biden in the election.

Trump is a businessman, China tried to play the US and they got what they deserved for it.


Nonsense.

That with Hunter is US domestic politics. Tell who has no dirty hands? Trump is too impulsive he made mistakes during corona crisis. re-election campaign, but who knows he learns and wins the next election. He has the lead in the poll.
Trump has an extremely favorite view on Vietnam. I am undecided between China containment, nuclear war and business opportunities for my home country.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Just a nonsensical lie by the democrats, Trump being a "Russian puppet" and "Russian election meddling" my ***.

He's not a Putin puppet. If anyone was stupid enough to be Russia's puppet, it would have been the Europeans for being dependent on Russian gas.

In 2021, the EU imported 40% of its gas from Russia (around 155 billion cubic metres), the vast majority coming through pipelines. In the first half of 2023, that shared plunged to less than 15 per cent. The EU has ended all imports of Russian coal. It's reduced Russian oil imports by around 90%.

Russia simply provided a much better deal. There are still existing contracts between EU countries and Russia covering gas.

During Trump administration, war was not forseeable, giving Ukraine weapons without an indication for war would be considered an act of aggression.
Giving them weapons with an indication for war would be a smart thing to do.

Biden took his time, the only western weapons available to Ukraine initially were a few Carl Gustaffs and NLAWs while America had indications about the war months before it started.

Nope, Ukraine had Javelins after Congress coerced Trump.
They purchased around 800 missiles after 2018.
The Biden administration shipped almost 5000 Javelins in the three months following the invasion.

Javelin missile: Made by the US, wielded by Ukraine, feared by Russia

The American-made FGM-148 Javelin has been making mincemeat of T-72s and T-90s in Ukraine, according to reports.

www.militarytimes.com

During the stupid Democrats administration, everything went to shit. Ukraine-Russia war, inflation, North Korea started launching rockets again, China is acting aggressive on Taiwan, and generally people think the US is a joke.

The US was considered a Joke under Trump.

Europeans didn't increase budgets, that's what he was angry about, and it took the Ukraine war, well after his presidency, to start increasing their budget seriously.

The ambition was to increase budgets to 2% of GDP in 2024. - No committment.
The budgets started to increase after 2014. The rate of increase dropped under Trump, and resumed under Biden.
He thus failed, as he always failed.

About the gas, Europeans made an absolutely foolish decision and they mocked Trump for thinking correctly, had they bought gas from the US you wouldn't have paid 1000 dollars for turning on a LED lightbulb for 5 seconds during 2022 winter.

Right now we occasionally get paid for turning on a light bulb.

Buying Russian gas for tens of billions of dollars while having the US spend tens of billions of dollars annually simply on the deployment of soldiers in Europe to defend against Russia.

You could claim that the US defended Europe during the Cold War. After the end of that, the US removed 90% of its troops from Europe and the remainder is mostly logistics support for the US Middle East business.

Remember it was Europe that funded Russia even throughout the war by buying Russian gas at stupidly high prices.

That has changed, as shown above.

Huh, I didn't know that.

That's in contrast to @A.P. Richelieu though, turns out Trump approved to sell them weapons? Is that an action appropriate for Putin's puppet?

Trump approved the sale and then blocked it for months until people talked him out of it.

Trump Resisted Sale of Javelins to Ukraine

Republicans are defending him in the impeachment inquiry by saying he gave more military aid than his predecessor, but it came only after the reluctant…

foreignpolicy.com

Anyway, ATGMs are tactical, defensive weapons, some might even consider them light arms.


If the separatists in Ukraine back then "were not Russian soldiers" and "were not using Russian tanks", then there is no wrong with equipping them with Javelins from the viewpoint of Russia

 

[Viet]

Unbelievable

Russia strategic bombers park on unprotected space, without hangers, covered by car tires. They hope those tires will make the planes invisible and provide air protection against Ukraine drones.

Maxar Technologies

Maxar Technologies
A satellite image shows car tires on a Russian aircraft.

 

[Hack-Hook]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1698577771834826897

https://twitter.com/x/status/1698885557726961997

now Ukrainians found an ingenious way to fix their male to female ratio

 

[BON PLAN]

Unbelievable

Russia strategic bombers park on unprotected space, without hangers, covered by car tires. They hope those tires will make the planes invisible and provide air protection against Ukraine drones.

Maxar Technologies

Maxar Technologies
A satellite image shows car tires on a Russian aircraft.

If tyres are burning after a drone hit, it will be worst....

 

[Viet]

From the news, the US prepares another one billion USD military package that includes depleted uranium tank shells.
Ukraine army is advancing to the second defense line at Verbove. Tokmak is in sight.
Putin’s invasion army spends 60 percent of resources on first, 20 percent each on the second and third defense line. With the second defense line at risk they are now in panic.

Die ukrainische Armee hat nach eigenen Angaben an der Frontlinie weitere Erfolge erzielt.Quelle: Ukrinform/dpa

 

[Beny Karachun]

Trump approved the sale and then blocked it for months until people talked him out of it.

Would Putin's puppet would simply be "talked out of it"?

Also, read your source:
"While Trump’s relationship with his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin, has raised eyebrows, his decision to approve lethal aid to Ukraine has often been held up as evidence that the Trump administration has been, if anything, more hawkish when it came to Russia than its predecessor. "

That has changed, as shown above.

It could have been prevented in the first place, the damage was already done. Billions upon billions of dollars came to Russia from the sale of gas to Europe during the war, quite counter productive to your military aid to Ukraine.

And the funny thing is you're still funding Russia, albeit at a much lower rate, but that cost you almost a trillion euros in just one winter.

The ambition was to increase budgets to 2% of GDP in 2024. - No committment.
The budgets started to increase after 2014. The rate of increase dropped under Trump, and resumed under Biden.
He thus failed, as he always failed.

You blame Trump for? Under Trump there was no war and no crisis due to correct management, you didn't see a need for an increased budget so you slacked off,then under Biden the war and crisis forced you to ramp up production and budget urgently.

The production resumed under Biden years too late and caused *major* strategic failure, now they are struggling to keep up with the rate of production that's needed to replenish Ukrainian and European stocks.

Currently there's shortage of weapon systems in European militaries.

The US was considered a Joke under Trump.

In the leftist media maybe, in reality he was the best president the US had in years.

You could claim that the US defended Europe during the Cold War. After the end of that, the US removed 90% of its troops from Europe and the remainder is mostly logistics support for the US Middle East business.

US still has hundreds of thousands of troops in Europe costing more to maintain than the whole defense budget of pretty much any individual European nation.

Nope, Ukraine had Javelins after Congress coerced Trump.
They purchased around 800 missiles after 2018.
The Biden administration shipped almost 5000 Javelins in the three months following the invasion.

Biden should have shipped the 5000 Javelins *before* the invasion happened, not after.

now Ukrainians found an ingenious way to fix their male to female ratio

It's okay, your women don't even need to be in war to have their lives taken.

Unbelievable

Russia strategic bombers park on unprotected space, without hangers, covered by car tires. They hope those tires will make the planes invisible and provide air protection against Ukraine drones.

Maxar Technologies

Maxar Technologies
A satellite image shows car tires on a Russian aircraft.

It goes to show how good the S-400, Pantsir, TOR and other overhyped Russian junk air defenses are

 

[Beny Karachun]

That with Hunter is US domestic politics. Tell who has no dirty hands? Trump is too impulsive he made mistakes during corona crisis. re-election campaign, but who knows he learns and wins the next election. He has the lead in the poll.
Trump has an extremely favorite view on Vietnam. I am undecided between China containment, nuclear war and business opportunities for my home country.

What mistakes?

Only reason Biden was elected (assuming it wasn't fraudulent) was because he sold the people that he would stop COVID and that Trump can't do that, but the worst of COVID was under his presidency and he didn't do shit to change anything, just waited it through.

The same thing happened in my country with Netanyahu, media accused the government of acting poorly while Israel actually acted and was more prepared than most other countries.

I am undecided between China containment, nuclear war and business opportunities for my home country.

Trump isn't going to start a nuclear war.
Well aside from the fact he threatened to destroy North Korea, but it turned out nicely with Trump being the first president on North Korean soil.

 

[The SC]

A. Blinken Brought Uranium Depleted Rounds For Ukraine. Military Summary And Analysis For 2023.09.07​

 

[ReasonableStar75]

Rumania about to be involved:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1699774712182722726

This war won t end easy.

 

[Beny Karachun]

Rumania about to be involved:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1699774712182722726

This war won t end easy.

No lol

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Would Putin's puppet would simply be "talked out of it"?

With a guy that follows the advice of the guy last speaking to him, you bet…

Also, read your source:

"While Trump’s relationship with his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin, has raised eyebrows, his decision to approve lethal aid to Ukraine has often been held up as evidence that the Trump administration has been, if anything, more hawkish when it came to Russia than its predecessor. "

Trump did not provide aid, he sold stuff. He likes to sell stuff.

It could have been prevented in the first place, the damage was already done. Billions upon billions of dollars came to Russia from the sale of gas to Europe during the war, quite counter productive to your military aid to Ukraine.

Russia is still going bankrupt.

And the funny thing is you're still funding Russia, albeit at a much lower rate, but that cost you almost a trillion euros in just one winter.

You blame Trump for? Under Trump there was no war and no crisis due to correct management, you didn't see a need for an increased budget so you slacked off,then under Biden the war and crisis forced you to ramp up production and budget urgently.

You adapt your defense budget according to expected threats. The US certainly does not spend as much as it did during the Cold War. It has a defense budget of 3,75% of GDP and spends the lion part in the Pacific. It probably spends less than most NATO countries on NATO issues.

You can claim that other NATO countries underspend when Russia invades a NATO country. It may be so that NATO benefits from making sure its main adversaries should not be able to invade its neighbours, but that was never agreed.

The production resumed under Biden years too late and caused *major* strategic failure, now they are struggling to keep up with the rate of production that's needed to replenish Ukrainian and European stocks.

To support the war, Britain spent 53% of its GDP on military expense during WWII.
You can always spend more and You will always have too little in a war.
Even the US with a huge defense budget cannot provide unlimited ammunition.
Russia seems to have problems after eating up a large part of their stock.

Currently there's shortage of weapon systems in European militaries.

I don’t know about others, but Sweden has shipped less than 10%…

In the leftist media maybe, in reality he was the best president the US had in years.

This summarizes his worldwide reputation.

US still has hundreds of thousands of troops in Europe costing more to maintain than the whole defense budget of pretty much any individual European nation.

No it hasn’t. It has less than 20,000 combat troops in Europe, even with the reinforcements sent by Biden. The rest are logistics. Finland can muster 800,000 if they mobilize.

Biden should have shipped the 5000 Javelins *before* the invasion happened, not after.

Why?
It did not ”ship” anything during Trumps time, the Javelins were sold.