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Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

the factory was built by European companies

The factory to produce ”Chlorine”.
yeah , sure , the international treaties means nothing to EU and USA
It certainly means nothing to Iran…

incidentally iran is the only country that honored International treaties about weapons of Mass destruction , as a matter of fact yes Iran is criminal , the crime is honoring international treaties on WMD.
The crimes are
Occupying an embassy.
Instigation of murder (Salman Rushdie)
Supporting wars of aggression.
Supporting dictators
Terrorism
Shooting down civilian aircrafts
Supplying terrorists with weapons
Torture
Dictatorship
Repressing and killing its own population.
Trying to develop nuclear weapons.
The list is endless.

incidentally Iran went beyond those treaties as according to then treaties iran was allowed to retaliate with chemical weapons when it was used against it .but opted not to do so on moral grounds.
Claims without proof.
no sir the criminal is not Iran its European and USA, Saddam was your guy , you looked other side , it only show international treaties means shit for European and USA , it meant shit then as it means shit now as you guys 8 years ago look other side when ISIS used chemical, and right now you look other side when Ukraine used nerve agents in battle field .
Claims without proof - as usual.
the fact that dutch government systematically manipulate manifests to hide shipments
Individuals employed by the government.
No proof that this was state policy.
Claims without proof - as usual.
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Dear brother, with this typical thinking that west is good and all non west people do is evil. Their leaders are tyrant and are forced to pretend he is all known and correct. Need to get out of this mindset brother. Putin is an intellectual and not some tyrant as claimed by west.
Tell that to all those that fell out from a window…
 
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Time is getting out invading russian establishment is getting massacred in bakhmut and vuheledar plus Ukrainians are counter attacking in soledar its time to supply more long range and offensive weapons to Ukraine that will completely cut eastern most part of Ukraine from central eastern parts of Ukraine and therefore Ukraine can suppress ambush and completely encircle invading russian troops in luhansk and donbas or donetsk whatever its called
 
Westerns have never been accountable. For iraq war, libya have they been held accountable for atrocities?
Why are you asking? I am refering to Putin and the russian population Vs western leaders and the population of their countries.. But I am not surprised. This forum is saturated with whataboutism
 
You can have your laughs
But all the wayy back from Napoleon to most Battles of WWII
Battle of Kursk etc Russia always wins.
The only thing is U third class English speakers not even your own language, nevertheless, read in their media of Exaggerated Propuganda articles to stories of Western Victories But the real player was Russia not Yankees. Every historical fact on Russia is distorted by racist policies of the west.
Mark my words these Leopard 2s or M1-A1s will not even push the Russians 1 meter back.

The simple fact is that the Russians are using 100 year old tactics against modern weapon systems.the days of massively superior numbers of infantry finally getting the job done ended long ago
 
The factory to produce ”Chlorine”.
it produced mustard and tabun
Claims without proof.
the treaties are clear and Iran didn't used chemical weapon . according to Iraq government , what proof is needed?
Claims without proof - as usual.
the proof already provided
Individuals employed by the government.
No proof that this was state policy.
Claims without proof - as usual.
no individual can hide them , it was governmental policy of Dutch government
 
Wow…from..Mao humiliated by Stalin. China the little communist brother.

To Putin submissively approaching a fucking chinese diplomat….hilarious.

it produced mustard and tabun

the treaties are clear and Iran didn't used chemical weapon . according to Iraq government , what proof is needed?

the proof already provided

no individual can hide them , it was governmental policy of Dutch government
No. Part of government, another ministry bureau was in disagreement.

Ofcourse part of the dutch government equals “europe gassed Iran” now.
 
Whatever you say is meaningless at this point. The world has eyes and they can guage how Russia is taking on the entire Western bandwagon under the leadership of papa USA.

Russia is winning at it's own pace.

You and a few others in this thread are severely frustrated. You have spent almost a year bickering in this topic. We don't see you guys participate in other topics. You have become mental patients. Severely obsessive and hostile towards people who don't share your opinion on the Ukraine conflict.

"Russia is evil. Russia is evil. Russia is evil..."
Russia is absolutely winning. Victory will be like Afghanistan in 1979 where eventually ten years later it won and it continues to be an extension of Russia. Much like Ukraine, it too was an altruistic measure to help Russian speaking Afghans and to protect against Pakistan's encroachment on USSR's borders.

Afghans to this day are happy and provide inspiration to all Ukranians about the futility of fighting Russia.

Lets keep the pace going - signed by a guy who has head in the sad and does not remember history and prefers to get all news from RT

Westerns have never been accountable. For iraq war, libya have they been held accountable for atrocities?
They are not accountable by standards of the country thats invaded. They do lose elections and that is what happened after the initial fervor of the war with Iraq and the lies became visible.

They don't go to jail but they also don't rule endlessly and find ways to become Presidents again. Putin , Qaddafi others excel at that
 
There have been a number of posts about how great Russian economy is doing vs EU.

EU didn't growth stayed positive. Russian's negative by 2-3 %.

Oil revenues collapsed by $400M a day compared to a year ago and will never go up. And it takes the $45-$50M / barrel that India/China use leverage and pay is not that profitable as oil costs more than $40 a barrel to extract.

1M of its smartest and richest left.

$300BN in foreign assets likely confiscated

And cut off from the future economic growth indefinitely

Ukraine is of course doing much worse but its back stopped by its allies. Russian people will suffer endlessly (other than the ones that squeezed into the stadium).

The prize at the end: may be Russia gets to hold and keep 8% of Ukraine land. The world's most expensive real-estate



How the Russian economy self-immolated in the year since Putin invaded Ukraine​

BYJeffrey Sonnenfeld and Steven Tian
February 20, 2023 at 4:44 PM GMT+1
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Vladimir Putin's partial mobilization order in the autumn was followed by massive talent and capital flight.
Olga Maltseva—AFP/Getty Images
A year after Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, some cynics lament that the unprecedented economic pressure campaign against Russia has not yet ended the Putin regime. What they’re missing is the transformation that has happened right before our eyes: Russia has become an economic afterthought and a deflated world power.


Coupled with Putin’s own misfires, economic pressure has eroded Russia’s economic might as brave Ukrainian fighters, HIMARS, Leopard tanks, and PATRIOT missiles held off Russian troops on the battlefield. This past year, the Russian economic machine has been impaired as our original research compendium shows. Here are Russia’s most notable economic defeats:

Russia’s permanent loss of 1,000+ global multinational businesses coupled with escalating economic sanctions

The 1,000+ global companies who voluntarily chose to exit Russia in an unprecedented, historic mass exodus in the weeks after February 2022, as we’ve faithfully chronicled and updated to this day, have largely held true to their pledges and have either fully divested or are in the process of fully separating from Russia with no plans to return.
These voluntary business exits of companies with in-country revenues equivalent to 35% of Russia’s GDP that employ 12% of the country’s workforce were coupled with the imposition of enduring international government sanctions unparalleled in their scale and scope, including export controls on sensitive technologies, restrictions on Russian elites and asset seizures, financial sanctions, immobilizing Russia’s central bank assets, and removing key Russian banks from SWIFT, with even more sanctions planned.

Plummeting energy revenues thanks to the G7 oil price cap and Putin’s punctured natural gas gambit

The Russian economy has long been dominated by oil and gas, which accounts for over 50% of the government’s revenue, over 50% of export earnings, and nearly 20% of GDP every year.
In the initial months following the invasion, Putin’s energy earnings soared. Now, according to Deutsche Bank economists, Putin has lost $500 million a day of oil and gas export earnings relative to last year’s highs, rapidly spiraling downward.
The precipitous decline was accelerated by Putin’s own missteps. Putin coldly withheld natural gas shipments from Europe–which previously received 86% of Russian gas sales–in the hopes freezing Europeans would get angry and replace their elected leaders. However, a warmer-than-usual winter and increased global LNG supply mean Putin has now permanently forfeited Russia’s relevance as a key supplier to Europe, with reliance on Russian energy down to 7%–and soon to zero. With limited pipeline infrastructure to pivot to Asia, Putin now makes barely 20% of his previous gas earnings.
However, Russia’s energy collapse is also triggered by savvy international diplomacy. The G7 oil price cap has achieved the once unimaginable balance of keeping Russian oil flowing into global markets while simultaneously cutting into Putin’s profits. Russian oil exports have held amazingly consistent at pre-war levels of ~7 million barrels a day, ensuring global oil market stability, but the value of Russian oil exports has gone from $600 million a day down to $200 million a day as the Urals benchmark crashed to ~$45 a barrel, barely above Russia’s breakeven price of ~$42 per barrel.
Even countries on the sidelines of the price cap scheme, such as India and China, ride the coattails of the G7 buyers cartel to secure Russian supply at deep discounts of up to 30%.

Talent and capital flight

Since last February, millions of Russians have fled the country. The initial exodus of some 500,000 skilled workers in March was compounded by the exodus of at least 700,000 Russians, mostly working-age men fleeing the possibility of conscription, after Putin’s September partial mobilization order. Kazakhstan and Georgia alone each registered at least 200,000 newly fleeing Russians desperate not to fight in Ukraine.
Moreover, the fleeing Russians are desperate to stuff their pockets with cash as they escape Putin’s rule. Remittances to neighboring countries have soared more than tenfold and they rapidly attracted ex-Russian businesses. For example, in Uzbekistan, the Tashkent IT Park has seen year-over-year growth of 223% in revenue and 440% growth in total technology exports.
Meanwhile, offshore havens for wealthy Russians such as the UAE are booming, with one estimate claiming 30% of Russia’s high-net-worth individuals have fled.

Russia will only become increasingly irrelevant as supply chains continue to adapt

Russia has historically been a top commodities supplier to the world economy, with a leading market share across the energy, agriculture, and metals complex. Putin is fast making Russia irrelevant to the world economy as it is always much easier for consumers to replace unreliable commodity suppliers than it is for suppliers to find new markets.
Supply chains are already adapting by developing alternative sourcing that is not subject to Putin’s whims. We have shown how in several crucial metals and energy markets, the combined output of new supply developments to be opened in the next two years can fully and permanently replace Russian output within global supply chains.
Even Russia’s remaining trade partners apparently prefer short-term, opportunistic spot-market purchases of Russian commodities to capitalize on depressed prices rather than investing in long-term contracts or developing new Russian supply.
It appears Russia is well on its way toward its long-held worst fear: becoming a weak economic dependent of China–its source of cheap raw materials.

The Russian economy is being propped up by the Kremlin

The Kremlin has had to prop up the economy with escalating measures, and Kremlin control is increasingly creeping into every corner of the economy with less and less space left for private sector innovation.
These measures have proven costly. Government expenditures rose 30% year-over-year. Russia’s 2022 federal budget has a deficit of 2.3%–unexpectedly exceeding all estimates despite initially high energy profits, drawdowns and transfers of 2.4 trillion rubles from Russia’s dwindling sovereign wealth fund in December, and asset fire sales of 55 billion yuan this month.
Even these measures of last resort have been insufficient. Putin has been forced to raid the coffers of Russian companies in what he calls “revenue mobilization” as energy profits decline, extracting a hefty 1.25 trillion ruble windfall tax from Gazprom’s corporate treasury with more raids scheduled–and forcing a massive 3.1 trillion ruble issuance of local debt down the throats of Russian citizens in the autumn.

More can be done​

Although 2023 will exacerbate each of these trends and further batter the Russian economy, there is even more that can be done to grease the skids.
A crackdown on sanctions evasion and smugglers, perhaps through secondary sanctions in the case of Turkey and other chronic offenders, will ensure that bad actors do not feed Putin’s war machine.
Sanctions provisions across technology, financial institutions, and commodity exports can be escalated. Pressure on companies remaining in Russia to fully and immediately exit the country must be maintained. Some $300 billion in frozen foreign exchange reserves could be seized and committed to the reconstruction of Ukraine
Tightening these screws will help improve the chances that before this time next year, Russia will realize it does not need Putin, just as the world has already realized it does not need Russia.
Only then will the Russian economy and people stand a chance of returning to prosperity.
Jeffrey Sonnenfeld is the Lester Crown Professor in Management Practice and Senior Associate Dean at Yale School of Management. Steven Tian is the director of research at the Yale Chief Executive Leadership Institute.
The opinions expressed in Fortune.com commentary pieces are solely the views of their authors and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and beliefs of Fortune.
 
Something wrong with this picture: Putin travels by train in his own country so he is not targeted in the air.

But his near adversary (Biden) who is responsible for supplying his battle field enemy is practically across the border in a war zone. Not sure what to make of this asymmetry and insult.
 

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