Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

[Hack-Hook]

Breaking news: Russia just lost Serbia.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1620049492019150848

I don't see any Russia lost Serbia part as destroyed city are in Eastern Ukraine and mainly in hand of Russia
now participating in rebuilding them at the end of the war is meaning participating in rebuilding Russians side of the border

 

[Viet]

You can pay half a million Wagner's with just 2-4 b$.

So I agree that Putin will be squeezed hard to pay for Wagner with 180+billion dollars of oil exports.

Just like how north korea is finding it difficult to pay for 2 million troops with 3b$ of money it has and zero exports.


You sounds stupid but anyway

Also IMF said Russian oil exports not effected..well

You are clueless. The Wagner zombies are best paid by Putin. They aren’t cheap. They get more than Russia soldiers in combat. as regular wage they receive $7,000 per month, or $84,000 per year. Half a million wagners will cost Putin $42 billion per year. Not $2 or $4 billion.

For every Ukraine soldier they kill the Wagner get $10,000 as bonus.

 

[khansaheeb]

dont just blurt out generalizing statements that go completely against historical facts.

there are differences in ideology and actions. Factual measurements.
Just take the example on attacks on healthcare facilities that i gave. Of minority freedoms.

But please…go to china and start a salafi mosque and school while proclaiming your religion>>country or even oppose your host country (like so many here do like Dalit or Hassan). Lets see the result of that experiment.

We have seen what Russia did in Afghanistan, US did in Vietnam, Iraq and what India wants to do to us. You seriously need some lessons in morality, go and read the bible or Quran or something.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Geneva Convention. Chapter 1.

Hague Convention (V) Respecting the Rights and Duties of Neutral Powers and Persons in Case of War on Land, U.S.T.S. 540, 2 A.J.I.L. Supp. 117, entered into force January 26, 1910.

hrlibrary.umn.edu

Specifically, articles 4 and 5.

this is the part you stated

Art. 2. Belligerents are forbidden to move troops or convoys of either munitions of war or supplies across the territory of a neutral Power.

Art. 3. Belligerents are likewise forbidden to:

(a) Erect on the territory of a neutral Power a wireless telegraphy station or other apparatus for the purpose of communicating with belligerent forces on land or sea;
(b) Use any installation of this kind established by them before the war on the territory of a neutral Power for purely military purposes, and which has not been opened for the service of public messages.

Art. 4. Corps of combatants cannot be formed nor recruiting agencies opened on the territory of a neutral Power to assist the belligerents.

Art. 5. A neutral Power must not allow any of the acts referred to in Articles 2 to 4 to occur on its territory.

well exactly which part happened in Iranian land

more importanly were its stated you can attack somebody who is not neutral and were is the evidence iran supplied any weapon to Russia after the war .


ps. the date must be between the start of war till yesterday . according to some Ukrainian politician Ukraine staged the failed attack in Isfahan and as a result they are aggressor and we have the right to defend ourselves how ever we deem appropriate

You are clueless. The Wagner zombies are best paid by Putin. They aren’t cheap. They get more than Russia soldiers in combat. as regular wage they receive $7,000 per month, or $84,000 per year. Half a million wagners will cost Putin $42 billion per year. Not $2 or $4 billion.

For every Ukraine soldier they kill the Wagner get $10,000 as bonus.

Wagner's are far better trained than usual Russian mobilized soldier , it's natural that the get more as they are more effective than those soldiers

 

[Hack-Hook]

a neutral country can never be attacked? You live in parallel universe. History is full of invasions of neutral countries. War happening with different reasons, but never with such thing as political neutrality.

no it can be , it just make you aggressor and you must come down from high hours and your fake moral high .
and you can't moan if you get retaliated

and I'm not the one who in each thread start preaching about Neutral and belligerent countries , its a guy from Sweden

 

[Viet]

this is the part you stated


well exactly which part happened in Iranian land

more importanly were its stated you can attack somebody who is not neutral and were is the evidence iran supplied any weapon to Russia after the war .


ps. the date must be between the start of war till yesterday . according to some Ukrainian politician Ukraine staged the failed attack in Isfahan and as a result they are aggressor and we have the right to defend ourselves how ever we deem appropriate


Wagner's are far better trained than usual Russian mobilized soldier , it's natural that the get more as they are more effective than those soldiers

It’s the opposite. The wagners are mercenaries, ex prisoners, hooligans, rapists, convicts. They are not better trained they aren’t just afraid of death. They are people with nothing to lose. If they are dead nobody will miss them.

 

[Hack-Hook]

It’s the opposite. The wagners are mercenaries, ex prisoners, hooligans, rapists, convicts. They are not better trained they aren’t just afraid of death. They are people with nothing to lose. If they are dead nothing will miss them.

those guys have a mind far better suited for violence than the dude they grab and throw in the bus at the mal . and you can't deny wagner group after conscription have better training courses and make them better killing machine

 

[Viet]

those guys have a mind far better suited for violence than the dude they grab and throw in the bus at the mal . and you can't deny wagner group after conscription have better training courses and make them better killing machine

I really doubt, they receive regular military training. They most likely receive some basic trainings before going to Ukraine. What the West know is the wagners get access to Russia military hardware. They even get privileged access to ammo delivered by North Korea.

 

[Hack-Hook]

I really doubt, they receive regular military training. Most likely some basic trainings. What the West know is the wagners get access to Russia military hardware. They even get privileged access to ammo delivered by North Korea.

they receive training by Wagner group itself , will it be strange for you if those training be better than the one Russians conscript receive ?

 

[kingQamaR]

As mercenaries, they are not covered by the Geneva convention . Anyone joining this lot needs to think about that

 

[Viet]

they receive training by Wagner group itself , will it be strange for you if those training be better than the one Russians conscript receive ?

As said I don’t know. It’s hard to believe the trainings whatever they get are better than Russia regular army. Certainly, the Wagners as fighting and killing machine is a force to be reckoned with. At Bakhmut and Soledar they have proven they can fight.

 

[Hack-Hook]

As mercenaries, they are not covered by the Geneva convention . Anyone joining this lot needs to think about that

Ukrainian fire for just 6 month and gat paid for that vs Siberian prison.
you can take your pick

 

[Vergennes]

russians got himarsed once again

https://twitter.com/x/status/1620428179893784578

 

[ziaulislam]

You are clueless. The Wagner zombies are best paid by Putin. They aren’t cheap. They get more than Russia soldiers in combat. as regular wage they receive $7,000 per month, or $84,000 per year. Half a million wagners will cost Putin $42 billion per year. Not $2 or $4 billion.

For every Ukraine soldier they kill the Wagner get $10,000 as bonus.

Lol..
Man countries like Pakistan Korea and Taliban hired people at fraction
Cost.

You are saying Russia is spending 42b$ that's horsehit stata.


But let me entertain you..even by some miracle Russia is spending a 100x more then what every other country is spending (i.e 42b$) still it makes almost 200b$ from exports..

My point is..
In war of attrition Russia will win.


I want USA to be serious and provide f16s or back off completely..

The middle ground is just going to prolong this war

 

[gambit]

this is the part you stated


well exactly which part happened in Iranian land

more importanly were its stated you can attack somebody who is not neutral and were is the evidence iran supplied any weapon to Russia after the war .


ps. the date must be between the start of war till yesterday . according to some Ukrainian politician Ukraine staged the failed attack in Isfahan and as a result they are aggressor and we have the right to defend ourselves how ever we deem appropriate

Neutrality is a legal status, one that is declared to be. However, you can be biased and still immune from attacks by the belligerents as long as you do not provide MATERIEL support. Intelligence support is a grey area so we can leave that out -- for now.

Hague Convention (V) Respecting the Rights and Duties of Neutral Powers and Persons in Case of War on Land, U.S.T.S. 540, 2 A.J.I.L. Supp. 117, entered into force January 26, 1910.

hrlibrary.umn.edu

Art. 4. Corps of combatants cannot be formed nor recruiting agencies opened on the territory of a neutral Power to assist the belligerents.​

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Art. 5. A neutral Power must not allow any of the acts referred to in Articles 2 to 4 to occur on its territory.​

Even though article 4 has 'Corps of combatants', everyone understand that arms are critical components of 'combatants'. You do not send 'combatants' into battles with no weapons, right? So by logical extension, if you provide only arms, you have aided and abetted A belligerent just as if you sent only soldiers. If you previously stated that you are 'neutral', then you essentially violated your public oath of neutrality. If you never declared 'neutrality' and/or stated that you do take a side, now by providing arms, you became an ACTIVE belligerent on one side. Let us get this understanding out of the way.

Whether Iran is or was an active belligerent with Russia or not rests on materiel evidence and this is where you, defending Iran, is on shaky grounds. If we can chemically trace the origins of nuclear wastes, what make you think we cannot determine with a high degree of certainty, the manufacturing origin of a rifle? Or something with plenty of manufacturing clues like a complex aircraft? A UAV is an aircraft.