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Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

I take it you like Putin's version better. Letting a whole generation of youth die in trenches for no reason. And that sounds sane to you.

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Not at all , I am disgusted by this war and appalled by the death and destruction before and now during this diabolical war. My heart bleeds for the Ukrainian civilians and the soldiers dying for this stupid war , just like the war in Syria, Palestine, Yemen etc .

I wouldn't say getting punch to a point where the people doing the punching is tired of punching you is "Won", they failed to beat us any single time in battlefield, the reason why they have "won" is simply because we don't see the point keep posting in there with no return, and one man pull the troop out in a hurry because he wants to be re-elected.

On the other hand, you need to have something to win if you want to talk about win or lose. What can we win in Afghanistan? I mean, what is the ultimate price? Rock? Or you really buy into the abstract thing about hearts and minds?
That's because you ran off before they could. :rofl:

You are funny. You use Israeli rapist to justify Russia rapist. What next? You use Russia rapist to justify India rapist?
I don't justify any rapes , not even the rapes of Saigon.
 
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New $2.6B package will include 100 Stryker and an additional 50 Bradley’s for 100 total Bradley’s for Ukraine
Not bad
The US is generous.
This infantry vehicle Stryker looks sexy.
Abrahams next?
Its reported in the meeting between Biden and Scholz Germany says if the US delivers Abraham, Germany will deliver leopards 1 and 2.
Win win.


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The Biden administration is considering the argument that Kyiv needs the power to strike at the Ukrainian peninsula annexed by Russia in 2014.
 
Not bad
The US is generous.
This infantry vehicle Stryker looks sexy.
Abrahams next?
Its reported in the meeting between Biden and Scholz Germany says if the US delivers Abraham, Germany will deliver leopards 1 and 2.
Win win.


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More fuel for the fire. Seems like NATO have replaced the whole military Ukrainian weapons with their own. How are they going to get the money back, there is something we are missing.?

On wish list of Ukraine military:
Fighter jets, Nuclear dive bomber


Yeh make Ukraine a dumping down for all the redundant and obsolete weapons.
 
More fuel for the fire. Seems like NATO have replaced the whole military Ukrainian weapons with their own. How are they going to get the money back, there is something we are missing.?


Yeh make Ukraine a dumping down for all the redundant and obsolete weapons.
The money is worth off. Putin wants to finish Ukraine, EU, NATO presence in Europe. Nobody will cry a tear if Russia is finished by trying. Tornado dive bombers will be replaced by Typhoon and F35. Most weapons purchases to Ukraine are based on grants, donations, loans and lease.

I would not say dumping ground, Ukraine needs even a rusty spade to defend itself. Russia starts the war. don’t blame others. Putin can end the war immediately.
 
Mobilise what?! He's already gone through most of his army, emptied and lost most of the prisoners he forced to fight, destroyed all of his best tanks and armour vehicles, lost a ton of aircraft, a few ships too! A child could have planned a better military operation than this idiot!
Prigozhin is Putin’s cook. Yes, he cooks meals for Putin in kremlin’s palaces. Putin only eats and drinks stuffs made by his private cooks.

What military performance can people expect from a cook?

His pmc wagner army consists of contractors, hooligans, rapists, sex convicts, prisoners, people that have nothing to lose. They have no tanks left, no armor vehicles. They storm Ukraine positions by foot. They die in thousands in Bakhmut and Soledar.
 
Well lets see the russians first take the small city of Bakhmut after 6 months before “crushing ukraine”.

Also how is a defeat of ukraine going to “break Natos back”? With defense budgets, ammunition production doubling/tripling and eastern european countries replacing old T-72 tanks with new Abrams etc.?

Geopolitically russia reduced itself from
Near peer to a regional power (with nukes). But please keep circle jerking about that “new world order” fantasy
 
Russia wont be able to take over ukraine
however, if Russia take over the terroties it claim and call for cease fire it will put NATO and Ukraine in a tough spot
because it will be endless war that Ukraine and NATO will be asking for

realistically that's the best outcome of this war and is the only way the war will end soon

The war will not end soon even if Russia decides to stop it today. The powers that be see Russia as a threat to their global fiat monetary system and can't stand with Russia being independent and not under their control. So they're mobilizing the whole world to bring Russia to their knees.
 
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If Russia invades Pakistan would you sit idle?or a robber comes into your house? would you not run into a kitchen and take the biggest knife?
Ukraine defend itself against foreign aggression they don’t have any choice. Russia hooligans and rapists do have a choice. They waste worthless their lives in trenches.
Or for the few thousand Hindus in Sindh, if somehow India decided to invade, would we just give up because somehow India is looking out for the wellbeing of its ethnic hindus. This justification of protecting Russians is BS. By this token Spain and Portugal should have right to re-claim Argentina and Brazil. Russia has no business being there any more than US had any business in Iraq (under the guise of promoting democracy) or in Vietnam...
 
Yes. Its a shame that Ukrainians have to die for the psychopatic US.
Ukrainians are not manipulated, idiotic , morons. You may come across a lot of them where you live, but not in Ukraine. They decided to put up the fight and lose men and women the same way Taliban decided to put up their own fight.

Nobody needs to play the 'poor helpless victim' card as if they don't know whats good for them and easily manipulated by some country, any country.

Yemenis decided to draw a line in the sand and fight the same way out of their own conviction as Ukrainians.

You don't have to agree with the convictions of any active resistance on an invasion but its a fact. Those with conviction don't need anybody's sympathy, and certainly don't want to be insulted by thinking that there is a bigger puppet master.
 
It will make not much difference except getting more meat for the grinder - as Russia's best is gone - both in men and materials. Russia will struggle to up her military production due to sanctions and poorly trained soldiers wont last long. Russia has run out of top-tier equipment.
Russia has the ability to muster this up again:-

"In what is sometimes described as the largest artillery bombardment in history, the Soviets opened the road to Berlin in 1945 at the Battle of Seelow Heights with a massive barrage that saw over 9,000 Soviet guns and rockets firing along a front approximately 18.5 miles long. That's one artillery piece every 11 feet."
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