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Russia flexes muscle near Japan in show of two-front capability

The Russian navy has been experiencing very serious problems in recent years. I don't think Russian Pacific fleet can create a deterrent to threaten Japan other than its nuclear strike capability.

I don't even think they have a Pacific Fleet anymore.
I think it is a bunch of subs, 1 Cruiser, 5 Destroyers and a bunch of tiny anti-sub ships.


We probably have more surface ships parked in Tokyo Bay than that.
 
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Economy is actually not that important but i get what you trying to tell.

Economy is a seconday factor that automatically falls in line when the first order of factors are aligned in the right way.

These are;
- leadership
- motivation
- ideology
- willpower
- intellect of leaders
How are you going to finance war without a good economy. You will have bad quality equipment and training for your forces too. Todays wars are won by advanced nations who have high tech militaries and to have that you need a strong economy the rest is just nonsense coffee house talk.
 
How are you going to finance war without a good economy. You will have bad quality equipment and training for your forces too. Todays wars are won by advanced nations who have high tech militaries and to have that you need a strong economy the rest is just nonsense coffee house talk.

China beat USA and its allies in the Korean War at a time when China was technologically inferior by far. USA even thretend with nukes. But Mao and China had the willpower, leadership abd motivation to fight and win its strategic goals.

It is not always the best technology that wins, neither the richest nations. This is proven again and again throughout history.
 
China beat USA and its allies in the Korean War at a time when China was technologically inferior by far. USA even thretend with nukes. But Mao and China had the willpower, leadership abd motivation to fight and win its strategic goals.

It is not always the best technology that wins, neither the richest nations. This is proven again and again throughout history.
That’s a very good example however that’s the reason why i especially said in todays wars meaning in 2022.

Even if you have the strongest willpower and best leadership in the world it wont help if the enemy knows where you are and follows you with cameras and satellites to hit you by laser guided missiles with pinpoint accuracy.
 
Russia can hardly win against Ukraine or even hold the occupying territory for long , they are losing men and equipment like crazy , they lost 5 generals out of 20 generals appointed for the war . Fighting another nation would break Russia apart , it can only defend itself using nukes as a detterent
you read too much CNN!!! get you head out of your ***.
 
You chinese are funny everytime you come with stupid statements like "muh if NATO is superior why don't they dare to attack Russia" you think it's like a video game. Taking your logic why doesn't china dare to do anything about foreign military ships passing in your claimed seas despite threats,why don't they shoot down foreign military jets if your military is superior ? Why doesn't China claim by force islands also claimed by Japan ?
The way these guys debate, it is like talking to a bunch of 12 yrs old.
 
It's getting extremely popular for the west and their lackeys to trash talk Russia, but they forgot less than one year ago US just fled Afghanistan leaving mountains of equipments and weapons behind. Talking is cheap, the west and Nato still fear as hell to engage with Russia militarily, don't listen to what they say, watch what they do.
 
It's getting extremely popular for the west and their lackeys to trash talk Russia, but they forgot less than one year ago US just fled Afghanistan leaving mountains of equipments and weapons behind. Talking is cheap, the west and Nato still fear as hell to engage with Russia militarily, don't listen to what they say, watch what they do.
NATO & Amreeka are for 3rd world helpless countries, they F with Russia they will only exist in history books.
 
With China's fast ascent, US becomes less and less capable of waging wars and bombing around the world , this is the reason we see less US military actions overseas in recent years, they are withdrawing due to their waning power, so now they increasinly resort to trash talking as their primary weapon.
 
With China's fast ascent, US becomes less and less capable of waging wars and bombing around the world , this is the reason we see less US military actions overseas in recent years, they are withdrawing due to their waning power, so now they increasinly resort to trash talking as their primary weapon.
The people who really know, knows that China is the more powerful country already when you factor in systematic features. That’s why the propaganda is so loud and hostile, because scared people act toughest due to desperation.
 
No one can compare this war with what NATO and USS had in the past like Afghanistan, Iraq etc

USA always selected the weakest country to invade and still lost over long period like in Afghanistan
 
Propaganda aside, compare the Russian manpower and equipment losses to those of US during desert storm

They are barely making any progress now, It is evident that Russia is not having a good time.

You can't be serious comparing the invasion wars in Iraq to Ukraine's 'conflict'. I can't call Russia's invation a war because it's not conducting its operations like it's in a war. In a war, a power like Russia would first bomb the power stations/hubs, telecommunication infrastructures, government buildings, civilian airports, in addition to military airports, bases, barracks, ports. Look at what the US did in 2003, then compare Ukraine to Iraq at the 2003 point -- Iraq had been sealed off, sanctioned, choked for over 12 years since 1991. Ukraine, despite its outdated hardware, has inherited the second strongest military from the Soviet Union. Do you know about Soviet Union? Up to the 'conflict', Ukrained was never sanctioned and, in fact, was aided with American and British military hardware and trainings to retake the two independent provinces.

YET, the US took a month to conquer the Iraqi capital against a depleted, low-morale, practically no airforce army. Coming back to the Ukraine conflict, Russia's objectives are different than the Americans' and that dictate the operation tactics.

So you can't compare an apple to a durian.
 
Japan's air force and navy being vastly superior to Russia's,a confrontation between the two will be hilarious.

Japan's Patriot or NON-Patriot can't shoot down Russian missiles(end of story).

Why did you think Russia fire a hypersonic missile to bomb the Ukranian ammunition depot when we all know Ukraine doesn't have any modern anti-missile systems. It's a show-off, yes. It's a warning shot -- YES. The warning is for NATO strategists who are laughing at the Russian efforts in Ukraine and starting to get bold against Russia.
 

Russia flexes muscle near Japan in show of two-front capability

Drills and warship maneuvers keep Far East forces active amid Ukraine conflict


Nikkei staff writer
March 19, 2022 03:10 JST

TOKYO/WASHINGTON -- Even as much of Russia's military is tied up in the invasion of Ukraine, Moscow is demonstrating that it can still operate in the Far East with shows of force in Japan's neighborhood.

The big brown bear has woken again.
 
Japan's Patriot or NON-Patriot can't shoot down Russian missiles(end of story).

Why did you think Russia fire a hypersonic missile to bomb the Ukranian ammunition depot when we all know Ukraine doesn't have any modern anti-missile systems. It's a show-off, yes. It's a warning shot -- YES. The warning is for NATO strategists who are laughing at the Russian efforts in Ukraine and starting to get bold against Russia.


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The use of "Khinzal" missiles only shows the Russian military isn't even able to fly sorties into Ukraine and provide CAS to its troops on the ground because of fear of the Ukrainian air defence systems and manpads.

They can't properly use effective air force given their aircrafts use in majority unguided bombs,most of their aircrafts don't even have targeting pods or guided bombs,they have to fly low to provide CAS,thus in range of manpads and other Ukrainian air defence systems.

Russia is now only capable to strike Ukraine using cruise missiles fired from safe distance inside the Russian territory. RuAF is trash and this war only confirms it.
 
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