'Roof of the World' rebels against Pakistan

[ares]

hope you remember Karachi Agreement (link from UN website)

Your point being??

 

[suresh1773]

Again off topic. As I said. When a bharati finds nothing to discuss or gets busted. Tries to hide behind the terror incidents. Shameful behavior which is very common among bharatis.

Comon don't act to do smart.People who live with guns die with guns only.Even the Kashmir issue is solved,the Militants will disapper in thin air or vanish. They r bound to stay with their guns & idelogy. U have written that Pakistan's Kashmir is more peacefull then Delhi & Kashmir.Actually it was a incomplete sentence which I completed. What is shamefull in that.Didn't pakistan supported militants,what about the Madrasas which used to collect funds for Kashmir freedom fighters. What about Syed Salhuddin,actually we Indians made a mistake,we should given asylum to Brahma Bugti & other Baloch activists.

 

[Screambowl]

Your point being??

he is saying that, karachi agreement between azad jammu kashmir(Azad Kashmir) is the tool under which pakistan has sent military.

But Azad Kashmir is itself a part of greater Jammu and Kashmir. and according to article 257 of Pakistan constitution. Pakistan cannot make any relation with Azad Kashmir unless until plebiscite is given.

Their whole system is confused and flawed.

 

[Areesh]

Comon don't act to do smart.People who live with guns die with guns only.Even the Kashmir issue is solved,the Militants will disapper in thin air or vanish. They r bound to stay with their guns & idelogy. U have written that Pakistan's Kashmir is more peacefull then Delhi & Kashmir.Actually it was a incomplete sentence which I completed. What is shamefull in that.Didn't pakistan supported militants,what about the Madrasas which used to collect funds for Kashmir freedom fighters. What about Syed Salhuddin,actually we Indians made a mistake,we should given asylum to Brahma Bugti & other Baloch activists.

Again off topic. FATA, Baluchistan, Karachi. Come on kid. Stop overdoing yourself. Debates on such issues are just not your area.

What about Syed Salhuddin,actually we Indians made a mistake,we should given asylum to Brahma Bugti & other Baloch activists.

Good. You are welcome to do so. Would give us even more moral standing to interfere in Kashmir.

 

[Jaanbaz]

Gilgit-Baltistan should have become fifth province of Pakistan ages ago. Why do we keep connecting the region to Kashmir? It has its own unique culture and people. Let them become a full part of Pakistan. My father worked with many men from Gilgit-Baltistan region, they are very pro Pakistan and hard working people.

As for Indians getting happy, don't get too happy, Kashmiris are also not happy with your rule.

 

[Screambowl]

Gilgit-Baltistan should have become fifth province of Pakistan ages ago. Why do we keep connecting the region to Kashmir? It has its own unique culture and people. Let them become a full part of Pakistan. My father worked with many men from Gilgit-Baltistan region, they are very pro Pakistan and hard working people.

As for Indians getting happy, don't get too happy, Kashmiris are also not happy with your rule.

Whole pakistanis are not happy except for some war mongers. Invited war.

Gilgit is not happy with the governance, Balochistan is not happy. in karachi, target killings is now a business.

 

[Areesh]

Karachi agreement contradicts many things.

Contraditory for you due to low IQ and pathetic intellect. Not for the Indian signatories of the agreement.

 

[Jaanbaz]

Whole pakistanis are not happy except for some war mongers. Invited war.

Gilgit is not happy with the governance, Balochistan is not happy. in karachi, target killings is now a business.

List of freedom movements in India:

United Liberation Front of Assam (ULFA)
National Democratic Front of Bodoland (NDFB) in Assam
United National Liberation Front (UNLF)
People’s Revolutionary party of Kangleipak (PREPAK)
Kangleipak Communist Party (KCP)
Kanglei Yaol Kanba Lup (KYKL)
Manipur People’s Liberation Front (MPLF)
Revolutionary People’s Front (RPF) in Manipur
All Tripura Tiger Force (ATTF)
National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT ) in Tripura
Hynniewtrep National Liberation Council (HNLC)
Achik National Volunteer Council (ANVC) in Meghalaya
Babbar Khalsa International
Khalistan Commando Force
International Sikh Youth Federation
Tamil Nadu Liberation Army (TNLA)
Tamil National Retrieval Troops (TNRT)
Akhil Bharat Nepali Ekta Samaj (ABNES

 

[Screambowl]

Contraditory for you due to low IQ and pathetic intellect. Not for the Indian signatories of the agreement.

article 2 clause (D) of AJK constitution claims that they are part of greater Kashmir and pakistan's constitution through article 257 says, no relation can be decided unless until plebiscite is given.

Too much contradictions.

List of freedom movements in India:

United Liberation Front of Assam (ULFA)
National Democratic Front of Bodoland (NDFB) in Assam
United National Liberation Front (UNLF)
People’s Revolutionary party of Kangleipak (PREPAK)
Kangleipak Communist Party (KCP)
Kanglei Yaol Kanba Lup (KYKL)
Manipur People’s Liberation Front (MPLF)
Revolutionary People’s Front (RPF) in Manipur
All Tripura Tiger Force (ATTF)
National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT ) in Tripura
Hynniewtrep National Liberation Council (HNLC)
Achik National Volunteer Council (ANVC) in Meghalaya
Babbar Khalsa International
Khalistan Commando Force
International Sikh Youth Federation
Tamil Nadu Liberation Army (TNLA)
Tamil National Retrieval Troops (TNRT)
Akhil Bharat Nepali Ekta Samaj (ABNES

They all are under control

 

[Areesh]

article 2 clause (D) of AJK constitution claims that they are part of greater Kashmir and pakistan's constitution through article 257 says, no relation can be decided unless until plebiscite is given.

Too much contradictions.

Tell this to the Indian signatories of the agreement(if they are alive).

 

[HRK]

Karachi agreement contradicts many things.

Article 2 clause (D) of Azad Jammu and Kashmir interim constitutional act 1974, clearly states that Azad Jammu and Kashmir is a part of greater Jammu and Kashmir.

under section 21 of the AJK Interim Constitution Act, 1974 with clearly defined executive, legislative and judicial sphere enumerated in the third schedule of the Act. Which contradicts Article 2 clause (D) of AJK constitutional act of 1974.

So when article 257 is there, I dont understand how there are relations with AJK with article 2 clause(D). LOL

post your claimed contradiction with link ........ to have a meaningful discussion ....

 

[Screambowl]

post your claimed contradiction with link ........ to have a meaningful discussion ....

go through the thread I have already posted I am not going to post again. It's a rule, please read the thread before commenting.

 

[HRK]

Your point being??

check my post again....

go through the thread I have already posted I am not going to post again. It's a rule, please read the thread before commenting.

I have gone through you are just stating clauses & Article but what contradiction you are referring ..... not known ...

 

[Dem!god]

List of freedom movements in India:

United Liberation Front of Assam (ULFA)
National Democratic Front of Bodoland (NDFB) in Assam
United National Liberation Front (UNLF)
People’s Revolutionary party of Kangleipak (PREPAK)
Kangleipak Communist Party (KCP)
Kanglei Yaol Kanba Lup (KYKL)
Manipur People’s Liberation Front (MPLF)
Revolutionary People’s Front (RPF) in Manipur
All Tripura Tiger Force (ATTF)
National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT ) in Tripura
Hynniewtrep National Liberation Council (HNLC)
Achik National Volunteer Council (ANVC) in Meghalaya
Babbar Khalsa International
Khalistan Commando Force
International Sikh Youth Federation
Tamil Nadu Liberation Army (TNLA)
Tamil National Retrieval Troops (TNRT)
Akhil Bharat Nepali Ekta Samaj (ABNES

lol....
these are useless.... most of the parties here don't even get 100 person for their movements...

there are 2 major concern as of now....
1. Maoist and naxals .... which again are not as trivial as the other and can be solved.... these are not for freedom but for greater economy and development...

2. Muslim terrorism.... this is the worst and need to be curbed in all cost...

 

[ares]

check my post again....

This is the Karachi Agreement..Please specify the point you are trying to make..and quote the specific text from agreement to back it up.

Text of the Agreement


1. That the United Nations Commission for India and Pakistan, in its letter dated 2 July 1949, invited the Governments of India and Pakistan to send fully authorised military representatives to meet jointly in Karachi under the auspices of the Commission's Truce Sub-Committee to establish a cease-fire line in the State of Jammu and Kashmir, mutually agreed upon by the governments of India and Pakistan;

2. That the United Nationals Commission for India and Pakistan in its letter stated that "The meeting will be for military purposes; political issues will not be considered," and that "They will be conducted without prejudice to negotiations concerning the truce agreement";

3. That in the same letter the United Nations Commission for India and Pakistan further stated that "The cease-fire line is a complement of the suspension of hostilities, which falls within the provisions of Part I of the resolution of 13 August 1948 and can be considered separately from the questions relating to Part II of the same resolution";

4. That the governments of India and Pakistan, in their letters dated 7 July 1949, to the Chairman of the Commission, accepted the Commission's invitation to the military conference in Karachi.

B. The delegations of India and Pakistan, duly authorised, have reached the following agreement:

1. Under the provision of Part I of the resolution of 13 August 1948, and as a complement of the suspension of hostilities in the State of Jammu and Kashmir on 1 January 1949, a cease-fire line is established.

2. The cease-fire line runs from Manawar in the south, north to Keran and from Keran east to the glacier area, as follows:

(a) The line from Manawar to the south bank of Jhelurn River at Urusa (inclusive to India) is the line now defined by the factual positions about which there is agreement between both parties. Where there has hitherto not been agreement, the line shall be as follows:

(i) in the Patrana area: Kohel (inclusive to Pakistan) north along the Khuwala Kas Nullah up to Point 2276 (inclusive to India), thence to Kirni (inclusive to India). (ii) Khambha, Pir Satwan, Point 3150 and Point 3606 are inclusive to India, thence the line runs to the factual position at Bagla Gala, thence to the factual position at Point 3300. (iii) In the area south of Uri the positions of Pir Kanthi and Ledi Gali are inclusive to Pakistan.

(b) From the north bank of the Jhelum River the line runs from a point opposite the village of Urusa (NL 972109), thence north following the Ballaseth Da Nar Nullah (inclusive to Pakistan), up to NL 973140, thence north-east to Chhota Qazinag (Point 10657 inclusive to India), thence to NM 010180, thence to NM 037210, thence to Point 11825 (NM 025354, inclusive to Pakistan), thence to Tutrnari Gali (to be shared by both sides, posts to be established 500 yards on either side of the Gali), thence to the north-west through the first "R" of Burji Nar to north of Gadori, thence straight west to just north of point 9870, thence along the black line north of Bijidhar to north of Batarasi, thence to just south of Sudhpura, thence due north to the Kathaqazinag Nullah, thence along the Nullah to its junction with the Grangnar Nullah, thence along the latter Nullah to Kajnwala Pathra (inclusive to India), thence across the Danna ridge (following the factual positions) to Richmar Gali (inclusive to India), thence north to Thanda Katha Nullah, thence north to the Kishansanga River. The line then follows the Kishanganga River up to a point situated between Fargi and Tarban, thence (all inclusive to Pakistan) to Bankoran. thence north-east to Khori, thence to the hill feature 8930 (in Square 9053), thence straight north to Point 10164 (in Square 9057), thence to Point 10323 (in Square 9161), thence north east straight to Guthur, then to Bhutpathra, thence to NL 980707, thence following the Bugina Nullah to the junction with the Kishanganga River at Point 4739. Thereafter the line follows the Kishanganga River to Keran and onwards to Point 4996 (NL 975818).

(c) From Point 4996 the line follows (all inclusive to Pakistan) the Famgar Nullah eastward to Point 12124, to Katware, to Point 6678. then to the north-east to Sarian (Point 11279), to Point 11837, to Point 13090 to Point 12641, thence east again to Point 11142, thence to Dhakki, thence to Poin: 11415, thence to Point 10301, thence to Point 7507, thence to Point 10685, thence to Point 8388, thence south-east to Point 11812. Thence the line runs (all inclusive to India), to Point 13220, thence across the river to the east to Point 13449 (Durmat), thence to Point 14586 (Anzbari), thence to Point 13554, thence to Milestone 45 on the Burzil Nullah, thence to the east to Ziankal (Point 12909), thence to the south-east to Point 11114, thence to Point 12216, thence to Point 12867, thence to the east to Point 11264, thence to Karo (Point 14985), thence to Point 14014, thence to Point 12089, thence following the track to Point 12879. From there the line runs to Point 13647 (Karobal Gali, to be shared by both sides). The cease-fire line runs thence through Retagah Chhish (Point 15316), thence through Point 15889, thence through Point 17392, thence through Point 16458, thence to Marpo La (to be shared by both sides), thence through Point 17561, thence through Point 17352, thence through Point 18400, thence through Point 16760, thence to (inclusive to India) Dalunang.

(d) From Dalunang eastwards the cease-fire line will follow the general line point 15495, Ishman, Manus, Gangam, Gunderman, Point 13620, Funkar (Point 17628), Marmak, Natsara, Shangruti (Point 1,531), Chorbat La (Point 16700), Chalunka (on the Shyok River), Khor, thence north to the glaciers. This portion of the cease- fire line shall be demarcated in detail on the basis of the factual position as of 27 July 1949, by the local commanders assisted by United Nations military observers.

C. The cease-fire line described above shall be drawn on a one- inch map (where available) and then be verified mutually on the ground by local commanders on each side with the assistance of the United Nations military observers, so as to eliminate any no-man's land. In the event that the local commanders are unable to reach agreement, the matter shall be referred to the Commission's Military Adviser, whose decision shall be final. After this verification,