Report: Turkish frigates to confront Israeli ships in Mediterranean

[Mehmet]

You are all brave in words, but will not be so much when missiles start flying around. You sound like boys with wet dreams about war.

Israel is more than quite capable to defend itself and pretty much brink to their knees all of its neighbours together at the same time.
You are over at the other side of the world and you don't quite realise that in eastern mediterranean the balances are very well kept and once a balance is lost.. something is taken or regained. Always ..

If Iran, could, it would, if Syria could, it would, if Turkey could, it would, if Egypt could, it would, if anyone could they would, the don't because they cannot.. and stop counting how many missiles and how many planes and what not, wars are not fought by numbers on a piece of paper, strategy, timing, training, information, surprise, understanding of one's enemy .. all play a key role in deciding the outcome of a confrontation. On paper a lot of things should have happened that never did.

Yes yes we all know about the invincible IDF myth but the fact is Arab armies in their overconfidence never expected defeat but in Turkey we never believe in such and prepare for the worst here is the facts:

Israel: Defeated overconfident (strategic mistake) Arab armies.
Turkey: At it weakest during our independence war we defeated you Greeks, the British (superpower back then), France (super power back then), Armenia, Australia, Italy, New Zealand & others.

LMFAO if you believe the IDF is invulnerable because it defeated multiple but ultimately incompetent Arab armies then Turkey who has defeated super powers at a time when she was at her weakest is truly God's chosen people with divine backing meant for one thing only: punish those who's arrogance and pride have reached the heavens themselves.

Need I remind you that the confident Greeks learned how to swim and in massive numbers back in 1923 when only a year before they were confident of victory? The British who never once been defeated in 300 years only to be humiliated at Gallipoli and again 8 years later and their reputation as the invincible army destroyed by the Turks?

LMFAO

 

[Mehmet]

No, blockade was declared one year after Hamas election, when they drastically increased the rocked fire.


The purpose is simple: Turkey allowed US radar against Iran (thus officially burying Erdos "zero problems with neighbors" policy), and in return US allowed Turkey some bitching against Israel.

This is a complete and total lie, blockade of Gaza started in 1991 and you know it! Hamas was elected out of frustration pure and simple.

 

[500]

It is obvious then that you have no idea about the geo-strategic reality of Turkey. There is a reason that Turkey is considered the crossroads of civilizations, where West meets East & hosts one of the most important merchant channels in the world.

Most important merchant channels are Suez, Panama, Gibraltar, Hormuz.. Turkey was importantwhen there was USSR to close their navy in black sea. Thats all.

In history empires have waged war to claim Istanbul & Asia Minor and at least 3 empires have made Istanbul their capitol in the past because of it's location, the Russians have in the past waged constant campaigns of conquest to take Istanbul from the Ottomans.

Iraq was a center of many empires now its nothing. Times changing. What 3 empires are u talking by the way?

The USA minus the goons in congress knows just how important Turkey is, Turkey today is seen as the Muslim equivalent of the USA

Nonsense. There are 5 major Muslim powers today: Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Indonesia, Iran, Turkey. Each has their pros and cons, none has dominance like US. Overall Turkish economy is less than Netherlands and about third of Italy so dont think about urself too much.

was actively working to find a permanent peace between Palestinians and Israel

Now its turned into the major problem maker, taking that title from Iran.

This is a complete and total lie, blockade of Gaza started in 1991 and you know it! Hamas was elected out of frustration pure and simple.

2007. Hamas was elected for same reason AKP was elected: corruption of previous government, populist rethorics, bribing of poor people with goods... Anyway since Gaza never was suplied through the sea blockade is just a formal thing.

LMFAO if you believe the IDF is invulnerable because it defeated multiple but ultimately incompetent Arab armies

The last time Arabs fought Turks it ended with crushing defeat of the Turks.

 

[RedBeard]

Netherlands and the others are completed with development they have reached their hightest possible! while Turkey just began! there is so much potential our goals are unlimited! we will become one of the strongest!

 

[RedBeard]

The last time Arabs fought Turks it ended with crushing defeat of the Turks.

add to arabs! Greeks, Bosnians, Albanians, Serbs, Bulgarians, Romanians, Armenian peoples and more, all revolted at same time + France, England, Italy, Russia. Even subjects Newzealand, Australia, Indians and Africans came to fight us Turks!! Add to that the years of destruction from the inside spies, and traitors and statesmen who betrayed the country and the people!!

So it is not a bad thing to drown in endless ocean!!

 

[Quasar]

I guess we should leave arabs and israel alone and let them kill each other! Saudi Arabia, Egypt???

 

[RedBeard]

You are free to do that, however we as a people have a responsibilty a commend from our ancestors to continue their path!! Besides it aint right to blame all Arabs for a few bandits!! like we dont blame all the Kurds now for the PKK movement its the same.

 

[Quasar]

add Iran as well! bro my humble advise is get some popcorn and watch them

 

[Quasar]

Most important merchant channels are Suez, Panama, Gibraltar, Hormuz.. Turkey was importantwhen there was USSR to close their navy in black sea. Thats all.


Iraq was a center of many empires now its nothing. Times changing. What 3 empires are u talking by the way?


Nonsense. There are 5 major Muslim powers today: Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Indonesia, Iran, Turkey. Each has their pros and cons, none has dominance like US. Overall Turkish economy is less than Netherlands and about third of Italy so dont think about urself too much.


Now its turned into the major problem maker, taking that title from Iran.


2007. Hamas was elected for same reason AKP was elected: corruption of previous government, populist rethorics, bribing of poor people with goods... Anyway since Gaza never was suplied through the sea blockade is just a formal thing.


The last time Arabs fought Turks it ended with crushing defeat of the Turks.

Turkish economy is 735 b so it means lets see; Turkey= your beloved Iran+your beloved Egypt+ your Israel

 

[Archdemon]

Netherlands and the others are completed with development they have reached their hightest possible! while Turkey just began! there is so much potential our goals are unlimited! we will become one of the strongest!

tho your intellect is very limited

 

[amalakas]

Its nice to think that Turkey is doing something for the Palestinians but I think its just politics and turks are just flexing their muscle. Going anti israel is always a popular move amongst muslim countries. But we must not forget that PLO in the past were given a lot more time by Greeks than Turks.

And that is why Greece had medium to poor relations with Israel. because Greece spent the 80's and 90's and some of the 00's supporting the Palestinians

 

[amalakas]

Israelis will wait till and act only in their own water because they have no choice!! Not because they respect law but more fear the Turks!
''make our navy look foolish'' like you say! Some also might fool themselves, but in reality this is very different then the arrogant Israelis stance during the first flotilla! It is stepping back!! Because IF they make the same mistake again, like killing the activists who will resist! Then at that moment our navy will be near enough to come in action immediatly! So its all to make Israel think twice before making the same mistake again! And letting them know who's really runs the mediteranian!! I think its an excellent move by our country! They will never ever dare again to board any ship outside their 12 mile! Because our navy will be patrolling there!Mediteranian is nobodies fathers farm where they can violate and bully some people! They'll have to obey international law period!

WOW.. ... so you indirectly recognise the right and set law that Israel's sea line is 12 miles... their 12 miles you say... but you don't for Greece ..!!!!

how wonderful it is when the masks drop !!!!!

 

[500]

Turkish economy is 735 b so it means lets see; Turkey= your beloved Iran+your beloved Egypt+ your Israel

Iran and Egypt are YOUR beloved. First of all there is also PPP economy here Iran and Turkey are pretty close. Also unlike Turkey Iran does not depend on West, Western tourists, it does not have a 100 bln trade deficit. So Iran can develop unconventional weapons, can openly support terrorists and curse US. You cant do any of this.

add to arabs! Greeks, Bosnians, Albanians, Serbs, Bulgarians, Romanians, Armenian peoples and more, all revolted at same time + France, England, Italy, Russia. Even subjects Newzealand, Australia, Indians and Africans came to fight us Turks!! Add to that the years of destruction from the inside spies, and traitors and statesmen who betrayed the country and the people!!

So it is not a bad thing to drown in endless ocean!!

I was talking about this actually:

Battle of Nezib - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

abd this:

Battle of Konya - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But good that you remember WW1. Its funny to see now Erdogans supporters waving Palestinian flags: a British invented flag which they designed to murder Turks.

 

[Quasar]

NOooooo They are your beloved ones you know it!
as I said arabs, iranians and jews please kill each other!

 

[Mehmet]

Most important merchant channels are Suez, Panama, Gibraltar, Hormuz.. Turkey was importantwhen there was USSR to close their navy in black sea. Thats all.


Iraq was a center of many empires now its nothing. Times changing. What 3 empires are u talking by the way?


Nonsense. There are 5 major Muslim powers today: Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Indonesia, Iran, Turkey. Each has their pros and cons, none has dominance like US. Overall Turkish economy is less than Netherlands and about third of Italy so dont think about urself too much.


Now its turned into the major problem maker, taking that title from Iran.


2007. Hamas was elected for same reason AKP was elected: corruption of previous government, populist rethorics, bribing of poor people with goods... Anyway since Gaza never was suplied through the sea blockade is just a formal thing.


The last time Arabs fought Turks it ended with crushing defeat of the Turks.

Your knowledge regarding such things stinks of total incompetence or your a product of your own propaganda. Turkey is the only Muslim majority member of NATO making it the only Muslim majority permanent ally of the USA, other Muslim powers who work with the USA are at best temporary alliances of mutual interest. Your lack of knowledge regarding NATO voids all your other arguments but I will entertain you never the less.

You mentioned Indonesia as a major Muslim power?? Seriously is this a joke? LMFAO Indonesia is known to be the biggest by population Muslim majority country and nothing else.

The Bosporus remains one of the most important waterways in the world and over a million people exiting and entering Europe go through Istanbul every day. The flow of goods from Asia goes through Istanbul which alone highlights its importance. Not to mention the vast number of pipelines of oil and gas flowing from Arabian countries into Europe makes it important beyond comprehension to Europe, it is their energy lifeline.

Now when you say problem maker your actually indicating that we are a problem to the west however Israel does not equate to the West. This is total arrogance on your part and Erdogan was according to your team Israel's best friend prior to 2009, if anyone is the trouble maker then it is Israel & unlike Israel Turkey provides economic and food aid to many countries in the region.

Thank you for confirming that Hamas was elected out of frustration since you did not refute my argument that Israel started the blockade in 1991 which confirms my position.

As for your claim that the last time Arabs fought the Turks and was a crushing defeat maybe you should look at history once more with many of the military engagements of the Ottoman empire in Arabia having been ended with treaties as well as the fact that at the time superpowers gave military backing to the Arabs, those conflicts with outside superpower (France, Britain, Italy) involvement was of course a military defeat for the Ottomans. It is good though that the people of the Arab world are overthrowing the inheritors of the governments whom trace their founding to the betrayal of the Ottomans.

But seriously the Ottomans defeat by the Arabs+superpower 3 is irrelevant since modern day Turkey slapped them all a defeat in our independence war. Our ultimate defeat in Arabia does not make our defeating superpowers and supporting nations in Gallipoli & in the Turkish Independence war any less relevant, a war where we only had 4 working aircraft and significantly less artillery then our enemies.

You do realize what owned means right? I would also change your name if I was the website owner to Major Ignoramus but unfortunately I am not the owner of this website.