Raymond Davis Case: Developing Story

[duhastmish]

Not on USA, but India. They will force them to stop.
You want Raymond?
Give us afia.

Deal.

Pakistani government is in a dilema, if they gie Raymond, the people will be out of control and to the extend that will result in Martial Law to be imposed. If they dont, US Government is gonna cry.

Dont we all know what is going to happen ?????

these big talk and nuke hit will end up bending the knees and letting Mr. Raymond walk free.

and if US is true and he shot a few terrorist - then he must be given award for hi bravery.

i see a good national geographic episode in making : Jailed in Pakistan.

 

[The HBS Guy]

WAIVER OF DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY SOUGHT IN D.C. TRAFFIC DEATH. - Free Online Library



Diplomatic immunity can be waived in the interest of justice and bilateral relations.

No. Not when the person is employed in the embassy.

Mr. Davis, as the State deptt. has claimed, was involved in operations of US embassy in Pakistan under diplomatic cover.

 

[ashok321]

WAIVER OF DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY SOUGHT IN D.C. TRAFFIC DEATH. - Free Online Library



Diplomatic immunity can be waived in the interest of justice and bilateral relations.

So what is stopping Pakistan to do the same with USA - ask for RDs DI waiver - simple no?

 

[DV RULES]

More over its not in favor of US to cut support because US has more regional interests with Pakistan than Pakistan has interests with USA. US will suffer more than Pakistan if he cuts support.

These are all tricks of pressure and Pakistan has to make clear words and that is all.

But where MEN like Rehman Malik & Asif Ali Zardari who know who will say first YES BOSS.!

 

[JonAsad]

And what happens then?

Even in worst case scenario, US will airlift all its forces from A'stan and head back home.

What will happen to Pakistan then?

What happens to your economy when US puts sanctions on you?



lol Threatening USA with nukes, are we?

It will not be the first time US will put sanctions on us? nor it will be the first time US packs up from Afghanistan,
Remember what happened in the 80's..
Left us in the middle of the mess and now billions of dollars later they are still dealing with the mess,
What will happen if the US repeats the same mistake again?
Will It?
You bet it will,
You can dream but its not going to happen..
If it did-- the consequences
You figure.

 

[The HBS Guy]

You have assumed he has diplomatic immunity?
The way i see it, Pakistani courts will decide his immunity.

It doesn't work that way. Diplomatic immunity is proposed by the sender state to the host state and once the host state accepts the proposal, diplomatic immunity is granted.

All this happens before the person lands in the host country.

Courts have no jurisdiction on this and it is true for all countries around the world, not just Pakistan.

 

[The HBS Guy]

It will not be the first time US will put sanctions on us? nor it will be the first time US packs up from Afghanistan,
Remember what happened in the 80's..
Left us in the middle of the mess and now they are dealing with the mess,
What will happen if the us repeats the same mistake again?
You figure.

You're failing to see the larger picture my friend.

It's not the US which will suffer, it will be Pakistan and most importantly, Pakistan's economy.

 

[Developereo]

on other hand mullah team dont want to loose on this oppertunity to gain some strength either.

What in God's name do mullahs have to do with this?

Standing up for Pakistan against American bullying does not make one a terrorist or mullah supporter.

 

[Last Hope]

i see a good national geographic episode in making : Jailed in Pakistan.

He killed terrorists?
You always can argue over it.
Who are terrorists by the way?

Some one who has got a unlicensed gun, and kills other fellow.
Some one who kills and over runs the eye witness and some one who tries to escape the scene.

 

[Lankan Ranger]

Sorry to say this but friends

Pakistan Economy under serious trouble

IMF already pressurizing Pakistan for budget cuts

I think Pakistan will to cut spending on all sectors

 

[Lankan Ranger]

The total debt and liabilities of Pakistan have reached a record 10 trillion rupees (US$117 billion), as the government violated almost all the limits on borrowing imposed in the Fiscal Responsibility and Debt Limitation Act.

Every Pakistani owes more than 57,000 rupees per head to foreign and domestic lenders, compared with 22,000 rupees per head when the present government took over in 2008.

The country this year has to spend almost 900 billion rupees on debt servicing alone, which is five times more than the revised federal development budget. The financing of a large fiscal deficit is forcing the government to rely on borrowing from the central bank and commercial banks, triggering inflation and squeezing the private sector.


Asia Times Online :: South Asia news, business and economy from India and Pakistan

 

[Developereo]

No. Not when the person is employed in the embassy.

Mr. Davis, as the State deptt. has claimed, was involved in operations of US embassy in Pakistan under diplomatic cover.

English much?

A waiver of diplomatic immunity is applicable precisely for people who are covered by such immunity. Otherwise, there is no need for a waiver.

So what is stopping Pakistan to do the same with USA - ask for RDs DI waiver - simple no?

Precisely the right question for the Pakistani government.

Request a waiver and put the Americans on the spot.
Do they support the rule of law, or special treatment for their killers?

 

[The HBS Guy]

Not on USA, but India. They will force them to stop.

You are overestimating India's worth to the US.

 

[American Eagle]

The Washington Post

AP sources: Pakistan likely to release US diplomat

By KIMBERLY DOZIER
The Associated Press
Friday, February 4, 2011; 8:22 PM

WASHINGTON -- Pakistani officials are indicating that a U.S. diplomat charged with murder in Pakistan may soon be released.

Two Pakistani officials in the United States told The Associated Press on Friday they expect Davis to be free in days, once a Pakistani court goes over documents U.S. officials have submitted to prove his diplomatic status. The Pakistani officials spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive matter. U.S. officials say Raymond Davis, who works at the consulate in Lahore, acted in self-defense in shooting and killing two armed men who approached him on the street after robbing someone else.

Publicly, Pakistani officials have avoided definitive statements on whether Davis qualifies for diplomatic immunity, saying his fate is up to the court. But the officials who spoke to AP said their government had to let the case proceed until the U.S. produced the necessary documents on Davis' status. They said Pakistani police believed the evidence supported Davis' story.

Davis was arrested soon after the Jan. 27 shootings. He made a brief appearance in court Thursday, and his next appearance is set for Feb. 11.

 

[The HBS Guy]

English much?

A waiver of diplomatic immunity is applicable precisely for people who are covered by such immunity. Otherwise, there is no need for a waiver.

Yes but only when the sender govt. approves to lift the diplomatic immunity.

The US is unwilling in this case.