Raymond Davis Case: Developing Story

[Muhammad-Bin-Qasim]

You may want RD�s head, but GOP has more plans!

They run the government, hence there is more at stake (strategic ties-Arms-USD etcetra) from thier point of view, which general public fails to realise. Its not good for Pakistanis to be jazbati on this issue.

This has nothing to do with being jazbati... If the government goes ahead with doing this, they are creating more problems than sorting them... simple as that...

Rambo should be hanged in public... Americans cannot do anything about it... The case is clear and yes... the scum of India will be on to us after a while saying we did not even do anything for a clear murderer of Pakistani people just because he was American...

strategic interests my foot...

 

[The HBS Guy]

Pakistani govt. is buying time to make sure that the public anger withers a bit before Mr. Davis is released.

 

[DV RULES]

You may want RD�s head, but GOP has more plans!

They run the government, hence there is more at stake (strategic ties-Arms-USD etcetra) from thier point of view, which general public fails to realise. Its not good for Pakistanis to be jazbati on this issue.

We demand only justice in the case & he has to punish over his crime. He is murderer of two intelligence worker. Where about GOP, GOP's most heads are sold, they are not thinking or worry about people but their bank balances in USA, black money accounts in Swiss and USA AND UK Banks, running business in foreign countries because of they are showing hesitation on this case.

 

[Developereo]

There is much more to this case than meets the eye, but I think that we ALL need to keep calm and let the powers working behind the scenes from BOTH sides do their jobs.

All will be settled soon enough.

That's exactly what people are protesting: back room deals with no accountability.

 

[Lankan Ranger]

US threatens to cut off all aid to Pakistan

United States is exerting extensive pressure on Pakistan and has threatened to cut off all military and economic aid to Islamabad if the American national Raymond Allen Davis who has killed two Pakistanis is not released soon.

According to reports it has now been confirmed that Raymond Davis was engaged in “sensitive activities” not only in Lahore but also in Islamabad and Peshawar was working as a “contractor” for U.S. Department of Defence and CIA.

The American threat to Pakistan came simultaneously from American State Department, Defence Department, an American powerful delegation and American Embassy in Islamabad. Unconfirmed reports say that the U.S. had restricted “diplomatic contacts” as a first stage and threatened to widen its reaction.

Early last week an American congressional delegation called on President Asif Ali Zardari at Aiwan-e-Sadr and Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani at PM House.

The powerful American delegation had suggested that “Raymond Davis be released before the damage is done.”

The American team also made its message loud and clear to all the top policy-makers including Dr. Abdul Hafeez Sheikh, Finance Minister, Salman Faruqui, Secretary General to the President, Ch. Abdul Ghafoor, Chairman National Commission for Government Reforms, Ms. Hina Rabbani Khar, MOS for EAD/Finance, Senator Syeda Sughra Imam, Ms. Farahnaz Ispahani and Spokesperson to the President Mr. Farhatullah Babar and Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir.

The issues discussed ranged from Pak-US bilateral relations to mutual cooperation, fight against militancy, ROZs and security situation as well as other related issues.

Contrary to investigating officials’ deliberations and conclusion the American officials insist that Raymond Davis “had acted in self-defense.” Although officials agree that he may have taken a “pre-emptive move” fearing his detection and chase by the two men he killed.

Officials here say that since the case is in the court it would be highly unpopular for the Federal or Provincial government to intervene and release the American and risk public backlash. But officials also claim that if he is not released Pakistan’s economy already under severe pressure may not be able to withstand American pressures.

Many Pakistanis believe that the incident is the result of “a free-hand given to selected foreigners by certain Pakistan officials and diplomats” but it is too late to reverse the damage done to the country. Officials say that Pakistan has limited choice now.

US threatens to cut off all aid

 

[VCheng]

That's exactly what people are protesting: back room deals with no accountability.

Now is not the time to demand accountability. That can come later.

Accountability is not an on-off thing. The whole process of governance needs to be molded with accountability built into every step. Otherwise it just does not work.

This case cannot be discussed openly since it will expose far more of Pakistan's secrets and its arrangements than the US involvement in the internal affairs of Pakistan.

Be careful what you wish for!

 

[The HBS Guy]

US' patience with Pakistan seems to be running out. Next few days will be very interesting.

 

[ashok321]

This has nothing to do with being jazbati... If the government goes ahead with doing this, they are creating more problems than sorting them... simple as that...

Rambo should be hanged in public... Americans cannot do anything about it... The case is clear and yes... the scum of India will be on to us after a while saying we did not even do anything for a clear murderer of Pakistani people just because he was American...

strategic interests my foot...

Try to find a macro picture and not the micro....
One shoe does not fit every foot!

 

[ashok321]

We demand only justice in the case & he has to punish over his crime. He is murderer of two intelligence worker. Where about GOP, GOP's most heads are sold, they are not thinking or worry about people but their bank balances in USA, black money accounts in Swiss and USA AND UK Banks, running business in foreign countries because of they are showing hesitation on this case.

But there are cases where pakistani diplomats were NOT prosecuted and returned home (spain-1975).

Munner Akram too!

So why you are trying to be selfish on one hand, and irrational on the other?

 

[American Eagle]

The issue remains Diplomatic Immunity.

Rather than repeat same info I and others have published here in recent days of rising Lahore crime rate, year to year up 15%; armed robbery of two Pakitani gentlemen shortly before the failed stick up attempt on US diplomat Mr. Davis, let's focus on the robbers.

Both were armed, used their loaded weapons for robbery,and were found to have the stolen two cell phones of the robbed two Pakitani men on them after their failed hold up of Mr. Davis. Thus they were clearly bandits.

Suicide of the wife on one robber ignores the fact her huband was "supporing his wife" with a life of crime. That is a tough hard fact.

The Pakistani police may well have to look at remarks and threats against public law and order by the two crooks family such that they may have to be taken into custody, disarmed, and held for making threats against public safey themselves.

Lawlessness and using crime as a means of making a living are a dark picture of a sub strata of Pakistani society.

While a small reaction of essentially family members have been overly covered by the Paksitani media internally, meanwhile the general law abiding public in Lahore have been subjected to two more terrorist suicide bombings including of a gathering at a minority sect Muslim mosque there in Lahore.

Diplomatic immunity gets this off dead center and is a hard fact and necessity. The courts are not the Foreign Office whose job this all is, the Foreign Office, not the courts.

Threats and posturing by politicians is a misguided reaction as the lesson learned for the two robbers is that crime does not pay.

 

[greatsequence]

I dont think this American is going anywhere the widow of one of the men killed has committed suicide which will increase pressure on the government.

 

[JonAsad]

Cut off aid, and we stop WoT, will save us lot of bucks.

 

[Mani2020]

Yanks do it fast, so we can block your supplies

 

[The HBS Guy]

I dont think this American is going anywhere the widow of one of the men killed has committed suicide which will increase pressure on the government.

It's in larger interest of Pakistan to release him. You're already down, why do you want to further mess with a superpower?

Don't be emotional because you can't afford to.

 

[Last Hope]

Okay do it
You cut aid, we cut WoT.
You cut aid, we cut his neck.
You cut aid, we cut further purchase of Olive class frigates.
You cut aid, we cut friendship.
You wanna fight, we wanna use nukes.


Now its upto you.
Interesting drama coming ahead.