Raymond Davis Case: Developing Story

[VCheng]

Aid or no aid, the Pakistani economy is in for a rough time in the next two years for sure, no matter what the resolution of this incident.

 

[somebozo]

If the government release him then there will be vigilante justice awaiting him outdoors.
The justice and democracy advocates are biggest criminals of the world themselves.

 

[JonAsad]

But there are cases where pakistani diplomats were NOT prosecuted and returned home (spain-1975).

Munner Akram too!

So why you are trying to be selfish on one hand, and irrational on the other?

Did the Pakistani diplomats killed two people in cold blood?
Comparing Munir Akram case of domestic violence and raymond davis multiple murders is silly, dont you think?

 

[VCheng]

Okay do it
You cut aid, we cut WoT.
You cut aid, we cut his neck.
You cut aid, we cut further purchase of Olive class frigates.
You cut aid, we cut friendship.
You wanna fight, we wanna use nukes.


Now its upto you.
Interesting drama coming ahead.

"we wanna use nukes" is fine as words, but translating any such threat into action is a grave matter indeed.

I would suggest being more mature in expressing such threats so flippantly.

 

[DV RULES]

And there are people in PAF who want to keep buying more F-16s.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, ...

We must understand one thing for us, no partnership at cost of compromise of national interests and respect.
WE have to change this our monopolize policy, Look at India, playing with both of Russia & US. Hell with F-16, why not Mig or SU? Open your new direction, keep balance with relations.

More over its not in favor of US to cut support because US has more regional interests with Pakistan than Pakistan has interests with USA. US will suffer more than Pakistan if he cuts support.

These are all tricks of pressure and Pakistan has to make clear words and that is all.

But where MEN like Rehman Malik & Asif Ali Zardari who know who will say first YES BOSS.!

 

[The HBS Guy]

Okay do it
You cut aid, we cut WoT.
You cut aid, we cut his neck.
You cut aid, we cut further purchase of Olive class frigates.
You cut aid, we cut friendship.

And what happens then?

Even in worst case scenario, US will airlift all its forces from A'stan and head back home.

What will happen to Pakistan then?

What happens to your economy when US puts sanctions on you?

You wanna fight, we wanna use nukes.

lol Threatening USA with nukes, are we?

 

[Mani2020]

It's in larger interest of Pakistan to release him. You're already down, why do you want to further mess with a superpower?

Don't be emotional because you can't afford to.

If the government hands him over to US it will not do any good to them as they have already spoiled their image in public and by doing so they will just be inviting problems for themselves ,

Secondly since the Parliament has the control ,nothing the government can do without involving Parliament .

Thirdly US is of no more interest now for the people of Pakistan as we are loosing much then gaining (its only the government who is the slave of yanks ,not the people of Pakistan) ,everyone talks about aid but we have lost more than 40 billion dollars on WOT as of 2010 as compared to the few bucks yanks give us in aid and that too with restrictions .

I would be 1000 times happy if yanks cutt off their aid as it will further portray the negative image of US in front of local public and our dependency on yanks will soon be over also we will learn a lesson (which is important for us ,as we haven't learn from past) and also will work more towards dependance

 

[ashok321]

Did the Pakistani diplomats killed two people in cold blood?
Comparing Munir Akram case of domestic violence and raymond davis multiple murders is silly, dont you think?

Its the issue, that of crime, is, what we are talking about, and not about the MAGNITUDE of pinishment.

A Pakistani diplomat caught with heroin would have been sentenced for life in Spain - but he was released.

Its diplomatic immunity per se....

 

[American Eagle]

Raymond Davis has diplomatic immunity under international law as cited by the US Ambassador to Pakistan and the US Department of State in Washington in his case. Thus this young attorney's analysis is entirely mistaken and is another attempt to pander to and cause public confusion and commotion.

The issue is for the Pakistani Foreign Office to admit to diplomatic immunity and then for the US to remove Mr. Davis from Pakistan for good.

Pakistan has an internal law and order problem since partition which has been exacerbated by the a large number of acts of terrorism associated largely with the war on terrorism. The atmosphere inside Pakistan, especailly in Lahore is fear of lawlessness and armed interpersonal attacks, let alone the horror of suicide bombings using young boys and girls as expendible bombers on the part of the violent Taliban and al Qaida.

Personna non grata in Websters Dictionary has a very simple definition:

"An unwelcome person." In no way does that term obviate diplomatic immunity. That is flatly goofy.

 

[duhastmish]

US is making joke out of whole pakistan. crushing the confidence of the nation making them feel like the country is living on american coins.

on other hand mullah team dont want to loose on this oppertunity to gain some strength either.

tough times for nation - youth need to fight back . they need aegypt type revolution.

 

[The HBS Guy]

US is making joke out of whole pakistan. crushing the confidence of the nation making them feel like the country is living on american coins.

on other hand mullah team dont want to loose on this oppertunity to gain some strength either.

tough times for nation - youth need to fight back . they need aegypt type revolution.

Revolutions are stuff of fantasy. Sounds good but seldom works.

 

[Last Hope]

lol Threatening USA with nukes, are we?

Not on USA, but India. They will force them to stop.
You want Raymond?
Give us afia.

Deal.

Pakistani government is in a dilema, if they gie Raymond, the people will be out of control and to the extend that will result in Martial Law to be imposed. If they dont, US Government is gonna cry.

 

[Developereo]

WAIVER OF DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY SOUGHT IN D.C. TRAFFIC DEATH. - Free Online Library

A government attorney asked Wednesday for a waiver of diplomatic immunity so the United States can prosecute a Republic of Georgia envoy for the death of a 16-year-old girl in a car crash.

Based on the prosecutor's request, the State Department will formally ask the Georgian government to waive the diplomatic immunity of the second highest official in its embassy here, department spokesman Glyn Davies said Wednesday night.

In requesting the waiver in a letter to the State Department, U.S. Attorney Eric Holder Jr. said evidence points to a high rate of speed and possible alcohol use in the downtown Washington accident Friday night.

Diplomatic immunity can be waived in the interest of justice and bilateral relations.

 

[The HBS Guy]

Raymond Davis has diplomatic immunity under international law as cited by the US Ambassador to Pakistan and the US Department of State in Washington in his case. Thus this young attorney's analysis is entirely mistaken and is another attempt to pander to and cause public confusion and commotion.

The issue is for the Pakistani Foreign Office to admit to diplomatic immunity and then for the US to remove Mr. Davis from Pakistan for good.

Pakistan has an internal law and order problem since partition which has been exacerbated by the a large number of acts of terrorism associated largely with the war on terrorism. The atmosphere inside Pakistan, especailly in Lahore is fear of lawlessness and armed interpersonal attacks, let alone the horror of suicide bombings using young boys and girls as expendible bombers on the part of the violent Taliban and al Qaida.

Personna non grata in Websters Dictionary has a very simple definition:

"An unwelcome person." In no way does that term obviate diplomatic immunity. That is flatly goofy.

He is going to be released. Pakistani govt. is just buying time.

 

[JonAsad]

Its the issue, that of crime, is, what we are talking about, and not about the MAGNITUDE of pinishment.

A Pakistani diplomat caught with heroin would have been sentenced for life in Spain - but he was released.

Its diplomatic immunity per se....

You have assumed he has diplomatic immunity?
The way i see it, Pakistani courts will decide his immunity.

Till then, no point in giving lectures on what diplomatic immunity mean, we all know what it means.