Donatello
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Hi @Donatello
This is something beyond my actual interest yet i would like to shed some more light on this one- Your proposition that How can dassault be held responsible for 108 jets manufactured in india- it is not entirely correct, here are a few reasons -
1) Remember there will be a lot of critical technologies that french wont be parting away - HAL or indian MoD cant expect the french to part away with each and every tech they used or patented in rafale project. Now here starts the trouble- it has been observed,via various projects that the OEMs of these "Critical sub-systems" increase the price mid way during the life cycle of the product or even worse twist the arm of indian r&d labs to their tunes- Scorpene project where india is license producing 6 subs bears testimony to that fact!- So yes,either they PART AWAY with each and every single patent or bear the responsibility
2) your second point regarding HAL being an assembler is not entirely correct- while i agree- itz major source of revenue comes from license production of foreign designed products. However HAL is gradually changing that perception by creating a knowledge based eco-system conducing for aerospace research and that is by filing a lot of PATENTS every year- last year alone they filed 400-430 patents while this year this number is expected to be in the range 450-470!- You must also bear it in mind that HAL's primary responsibility was never to heavily involve itself in research- that was the job of ADA/NAL(ADA is a consortium of DRDO while NAL is a top aerospace lab of CSIR). Yet HAL is filing patent to the tunes of 450 per year does tell a very different story!
1-Dassault has to be responsible for the parts they supply, which in most cases won't be coming from Dassault owned factories but other European companies....so yes they are responsible for that. However, the final product is put together by HAL then they are responsible for the final quality........Dassault's role takes a back seat with respect to the aircraft and they are responsible only for the parts supplied, not put together.
2-About HAL, i didn't say they are incompetent, just that their history is riddled with quality issues....you know that. Last, filing for patents is not a biggie, you and I both know this. There are thousands of patents filed each year around the world of no value and no worth...for example ......Apple patented the shape of it's iphone...........So with regards to patents it is always about the quality of patent rather than the quantity. In a similar fashion, India produces more Engineers and PhDs than the western nations.....however, why is it that their quality and impact on the society is not the same or regarded as the same? Because it is not.