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Look like Qaher couldn't fly so the project was canceled ...[/QU
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Look like Qaher couldn't fly so the project was canceled ...[/QU
are u need some water
It cannot be called shortsightedness of our military men. They did the best that they could do, even if we had developed the best fighter jet with providing sensitive and expensive technologies, yet, we would have had tens of air defense systems around our country, Patriots and THAADs , every fighter similar to F 18, could cost us a lot, let alone being shot down by high quality air defense systems existing in Israel and P-GCC area, hence having a land locked and surrounded country. Having missile capability with high precision was on the agenda, and I salute to our decision makers in armed forces. They did the right thing.I don't think Iran should care one bit about UN nonsense! Problem is we have people in leadership position that are too shortsighted that think differently!
I think as soon as lab scale and R&D in Ti was done they should have gone full in with $100 Million USD "a year" investment for rapid production.
Ti is a strategic alloy that is NOT a rare earth alloy and is without a doubt a necessity! But sadly I just don't see the Rohani administration doing much to address it!
Do you have proof? Or are you just rambling your unsubstantiated claims?
Expecting Qaher to come into fruition before 2020 was folly. Modern fighter jet projects take 10-20 years to develop. To expect Iran to field a 5th gen fighter or 4++ gen fighter before Russia and China have even fielded their own was laughable.
If it takes Iran Navy YEARS to build a single 1970s designed corvette (mowj ships) why would you expect a brand new aircraft platform to be developed faster?
Look like Qaher couldn't fly so the project was canceled ...
It cannot be called shortsightedness of our military men. They did the best that they could do, even if we had developed the best fighter jet with providing sensitive and expensive technologies, yet, we would have had tens of air defense systems around our country, Patriots and THAADs , every fighter similar to F 18, could cost us a lot, let alone being shot down by high quality air defense systems existing in Israel and P-GCC area, hence having a land locked and surrounded country. Having missile capability with high precision was on the agenda, and I salute to our decision makers in armed forces. They did the right thing.
Time to develop a capable local fighter and also providing TOT from Russia.
It was cancelled .... IRIAF was against it from the start and when they asked for Su-30 , they show what they want and how they think ...If the Q-313 gets canceled it would have absolutely nothing to do with it's ability to fly!
And again there is absolutely NOTHING special about the Q-313!
For a manned fighter jet project to go passed R&D there needs to be a very detailed cost vs benefit analysis that make sense and by the most part the cost benefit analysis of the Q-313 just DOES NOT!
The Q-313 doesn't pass even a simple rudimentary cost benefit analysis let alone a detailed one your putting a pilot and two jet engines on a low survivable low maneuvering subsonic aircraft with speeds likely less than most subsonic cruise missile that can only carry two 1000lb bombs using jet engines that are far more expensive then low lifespan jet engines used on cruise missiles that uses far more fuel!
In terms of fuel consumption you may get more fight hours but your not actually achieving increased range due to the low aerodynamic profile of the aircraft and reduced speeds.
It was cancelled .... IRIAF was against it from the start and when they asked for Su-30 , they show what they want and how they think ...
Please cite sources, otherwise you're no better than BT.
Also, this is IRGC project as part of its aerial asymmetric warfare doctrine; IRIAF will most likely get SU-30 after arms embargo is lifted in October 2020.
US/NATO have too much leverage on Russia to allow any significant fighter jet purchase to go through.
The only way it will happen is if Russia sells Iran the technology for SU-30 and acts like Iran did it on their own (ie karrar project).
That seems unlikely given how important that SU-30 and SU-35 project are to Russia. They wouldn’t even sell to china without strong intellectual property protection in place in the contract
It was cancelled .... IRIAF was against it from the start and when they asked for Su-30 , they show what they want and how they think ...
I think the poor relations between the west and Russia (Ukraine, London poisoning, Syria) coupled with the size of the purchase make it enough of an incentive for Russia. Remember our initial S-300 deal was worth $800 million. An Su-30 deal could be worth over $10 billion. That's a nice boon to Russia's economy and possibly brings the price of the Su-30SM down for Russia (at least that's how it works in western defence companies, correct me if I'm wrong).
These two paragraphs don't correlate each other nor with realities. The S-300 is a strategic system which they sold to us, a much larger concern that the Karrar - if we even did get Russian support.
And Russia allowed India domestic production for the Su-30MKI, which at that time was more advanced relative to its time. So it isn't unprecedented.
Remember our initial S-300 deal was worth $800 million. An Su-30 deal could be worth over $10 billion.
you guys should just do what the chinese do and steal military industrial secrets from the US. don't you have some extensive cyber army with a huge budget that's like ranked no.2 in the world? why don't you put it to good use and start targeting defence companies like boeing, lockheed etc to acquire classified data on the latest military aviation projects, it could launch you ahead by decades and cut down development costs considerably. you could also bargain the data in exchange for concessions from russia like maybe su-30 license production if you still want it. i've seen some evidence suggesting iran conducted such cyber espionage in the past, doesn't your talash ADS bear superficial similarities to the patriot ADS? (unless you sourced it from china who in turn got it from israel).
Lets be real though, look at the artesh. Do you think this country has 10 billion dollars to spend on aircraft? This countries broke bro.