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Q+A: Who could be behind the Mumbai attacks and why?

APPARENTLY RAW WARNED THE STATE GOVT. OF ATTACK AS EARLY AS 22 NOV. !!!

Yes. It was a massive failure to act on ACTIONABLE INTELLIGENCE.

This is why heads are rolling quickly.

I won't be surprised if the CM of Maharashtra resigns. He had initially denied that the state had received intelligence inputs.
 
INDIA TO SET UP HOMELAND SECURITY DEPTT ON THE LINES OF US HOMELAND SECURITY.
 
Yes. It was a massive failure to act on ACTIONABLE INTELLIGENCE.

This is why heads are rolling quickly.

I won't be surprised if the CM of Maharashtra resigns. He had initially denied that the state had received intelligence inputs.

IS IT ALSO TRUE THAT THE INDIAN NAVY AND COAST GUARDS WERE CONDUCTING INTERDICTION OF SEA-LANES EXCERCISES IN THE SAME AREA.
 
IS IT ALSO TRUE THAT THE INDIAN NAVY AND COAST GUARDS WERE CONDUCTING INTERDICTION OF SEA-LANES EXCERCISES IN THE SAME AREA.

Well the most recent description of the infiltation is as follows:

1. A Pakistani ship sailed from Karachi and waited for an Indian fishing trawler to stray into Pakistani waters.

2. Once an Indian boat came close enough, the terrorists hijacked it and killed the fishermen and dumped their bodies into the water.

3. They used GPS and Satellite phone to navigate to within 5 nautical miles of the Indian coast.

4. Then, they waved a white flag of surrender to a coast guard patrol boat. The boat approached them, they boarded and gunned down all the occupants except the captain.

5. They asked the captain to drive the boat to Mumbai's coastal water.

6. They then killed the captain, and boarded inflatable rubber boats and rowed upto the shore, got down, and began causing mayhem.
 
Well the most recent description of the infiltation is as follows:

1. A Pakistani ship sailed from Karachi and waited for an Indian fishing trawler to stray into Pakistani waters.

2. Once an Indian boat came close enough, the terrorists hijacked it and killed the fishermen and dumped their bodies into the water.

3. They used GPS and Satellite phone to navigate to within 5 nautical miles of the Indian coast.

4. Then, they waved a white flag of surrender to a coast guard patrol boat. The boat approached them, they boarded and gunned down all the occupants except the captain.

5. They asked the captain to drive the boat to Mumbai's coastal water.

6. They then killed the captain, and boarded inflatable rubber boats and rowed upto the shore, got down, and began causing mayhem.

unbelievable! this seems it is out of a spy movie!
pls dont get me wrong.
 
unbelievable! this seems it is out of a spy movie!
pls dont get me wrong.

Well this is being reported by some media agencies,....I'm guessing that the details will change as time progresses!!

Here is a different description.....

They had come in a ship and used a boat to come to the shore, said the police. "Four Indians were already on the boat and the terrorists killed three of them while they used one, Amar Narayan, to handle the boat. When the boat was just three nautical miles away from shore, they slit Narayan's throat and dumped his body in the trawler. They then used their own skill to come to shore."

I think its best to wait for an official explanation - these media descriptions are often more imagination and less concrete fact.
 
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Yet another description:
The 10 terrorists left Karachi in a boat around one week back. After arriving on the Indian coast near Porbandar in Gujarat, they raised white flag on their boat and anchored it outside Porbandar.

The occupants of a fishing trawler in the area saw the white flag and decided to approach the boat to find out whether the men needed any help. But as they approached the boat, two or three terrorists, in the garb of asking for help, entered the trawler and killed three of its four-member crew. Then the terrorists shifted their arms, ammunition and other equipment to the fishing trawler and forced the remaining member of the crew to sail the trawler in Mumbai’s direction.

After coming within four nautical miles of Mumbai, they killed the lone crew member and shifted their arms and ammunition to two dingy boats and landed on the coast near Koliwada. The abandoned fishing trawler — Kuber — was subsequently ceased by the Coast Guard.

From the communication intercept made by intelligence agencies during the operation, satellite phone records recovered from Kuber and revelations made by arrested terrorist Mohammed Ajmal Kasam (21), a resident of the Faridkot district in Punjab province of Pakistan, it is clear that these terrorists have a Pakistani connection.
 
well, i was informed through pakistani media, tht indian media has talked abt the terrorists using speed boats, from karachi to mumbai??

well indians r busy guessing for more reasonable explanation!!!
 
well, i was informed through pakistani media, tht indian media has talked abt the terrorists using speed boats, from karachi to mumbai??

well indians r busy guessing for more reasonable explanation!!!

Dude, you are either a kid or you don't understand the concept of "developing story" or the way the modern mass-media works.
 
Did they kill the coast gaurd?

Well that's what one channel reported.

I don't remember which channel gave this (rather hollywood-ish) description of events, but it was a hindi news channel.

The other media agencies are not mentioning any Coast-guard vessel, but simply a fishing boat.
 
Dude, you are either a kid or you don't understand the concept of "developing story" or the way the modern mass-media works.

wht the stupid story of speed boat has to do with developing story??

has untill now indian media shared proofs it has found regarding terrorists entering mumbai through its waterways, in media??, i am not informed, but plss inform me if u know any thanks
 
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RAW & SHIV SENA:
ATS DIG killed in Nov terror was including more names of army officers invloved in the Malegaon terror. On Nov. 26 2008 he had taken remand of suspect from court and was to proceed for the arrest of further suspects including army men. The Shiv Sena acted on opend roads while Raw agents acted inside Hotels and narimahouse who were later protected and let go by the operational forces. I am reproducing articles published in Time of India in issue of Nov 27, 2008:
Article 1:
Karkare led Maha team to meet NSA in Delhi
Pranati Mehra & S Balakrishnan | TNN
Mumbai: ATS chief Hemant Karkare, who was killed in the terror attack on Wednesday night, met national security adviser M K Narayanan and the chief of army intelligence in Delhi on Tuesday, sources told TOI on Wednesday.
Parambir Singh and Sukhvinder Singh, both additional commissioners working with Karkare, accompanied the state ATS chief to Delhi.
The MCOCA hearing had been marked by allegations of torture in ATS custody. But the meeting in Delhi could have been on weightier issues.
The ATS’s faux pas in the Nashik court, when it alleged that Lt-Col Purohit’s role in the Samjhauta blast of February 2007, had put the Indian government in a bind.
The meeting of home secretaries of India and Pakistan is taking place in Islamabad this week and the ATS’s allegation against Purohit may come in handy to debunk India’s claims that the blast was the handiwork of the ISI.
Sources also said Lt-Col Purohit’s role was discussed in detail. The officer’s lawyer argued in court that he had done conducted of the best operations in the country and Indians should be proud of him.
The Centre feared that if Purohit discloses to the court or to the media details of covert operations carried out by him for the military intelligence, then it would face a major embarrassment at the international level.
Purohit had taken part in several sensitive operations in J&K and the Northeast. What is also worrying the Centre is the disclosure made by both Lt-Col Purohit and another accused, Chaturvedi, that non-Wahabi Muslims had taken part in the conspiracy to plant bombs in Malegaon.
The Centre is also concerned that the exact source of the RDX believed to have been smuggled by Lt-col Purohit has not been identified. Earlier, the ATS said it was sourced from an army ordnance depot, but Purohit said in his narco-analysis that it was obtained from some Kashmiri Muslims in Pune.
IN THE NET: Sudhakar Dwivedi alias Dayanand Pandey at a special MCOCA court on Wednesday

Article 2:
Godman in cop custody till Dec 1

Kartikeya | TNN

Mumbai: The anti-terrorism squad (ATS) came to court with some concrete evidence on Wednesday while asking for the custody of Sudhakar Dwivedi alias Dayanand Pandey, a key accused in the Malegaon blast case.
The agency had suffered a setback on Monday when a special MCOCA court refused to allow it to interrogate some of the accused after their lawyers said no new evidence had been found against them by the investigators.
Dwivedi was sent to police custody till December 1 after the prosecution said incriminating material was found in two laptops seized from him.
Special public prosecutor Rohini Salian told the court that the laptops had video recordings of conspiratorial meetings where the other main accused—Lt-Col Purohit and sadhvi Pragya Singh Thakur—were present. Judge Y D Shinde was told that the accused also talk of detonators, grenades as well as weapons.
The ATS claimed in court that it had also obtained transcripts of telephonic conversations between Dwivedi and another man, where the former allegedly said “it will be good’’ if destruction was caused. Some CDs with propaganda material have also been recovered, the court was told.
The court was informed that Dwivedi had been in touch with Lt-Col Purohit and the sadhvi, both of whom were alleged to have been instrumental in planning and executing the Malegaon blast on September 29. Salian said the ATS received a report on Dwivedi’s laptop from the forensic science laboratory on Tuesday and needed more time to study its implications vis-a-vis the investigation.
Dwivedi stood quietly in a corner during the court proceedings. He made no complaints of torture but, just before he was to be whisked away by the police, he stepped into the witness box and told judge Shinde that he had nothing to do with the conspiracy. “I did attend three meetings of Abhinav Bharat but only as a religious leader,’’ he said. “My only fault is that I was in contact with the others named in the case.”
Dwivedi pleaded that the ATS allow him to wear his saffron robes and not keep him in the kurta-pyjama. “I want to wear my rudraksh mala,” he said. The court allowed him to shave his beard and said the investigating officer could decide when he would be able to wear his clothes.

Purohit’s house searched again

The Pune unit of the state ATS on Wednesday searched Lt-Col Prasad Purohit’s bungalow on Law College Road for the second time since his arrest. Lt-Col Purohit’s grandmother and sister were present in the house during the search, said relatives. “We wanted to conduct a thorough search, and it was part of our routine exercise,” ATS Pune chief inspector Peter Lobo said. Officials said they wanted to check if arms, explosives or important documents were hidden in the house. TNN

Article 3:
ATS unearths Hindu Rashtra plot

Mateen Hafeez | TNN

Mumbai: Investigation into the Malegaon blast has revealed that the suspects were looking beyond maiming the textile town. They were actually working to convert India into a “Hindu Rashtra” by 2025.
“Interrogation of Sudhakar Dwivedi alias Dayanand Pandey, who is in police custody till December 1, has revealed that the group was working to create an ‘Aryavarta Rashtra’ in India,’’ an ATS official said.
“They wanted to make India like what it was when it was ruled by the Aryans; their dream was to convert the country into a Hindu Rashtra and an Akhand Bharat,’’ an official said.
The suspects planned to infiltrate government departments everywhere in the country with like-minded people and then convert India from a secular country into a Hindu Rashtra, officials said. “They had also planned their life in exile if their conspiracy was foiled and they happened to be ousted by the government. Purohit assured some of the other accused that they would contact other nations for asylum if they faced any problem,’’ one of them added.
But why didn’t the interrogation of Lt-Col Purohit reveal this “fact’’? An official said, “We did not imagine that the suspects would have such a plan. Our main focus was on the Malegaon blast. So, we compiled questions focusing only on the blast for narco analysis. It was only after the examination of Dwivedi’s laptop that we came to know about this.’’
Dwivedi, arrested from Kanpur on November 14 for a suspected role in September’s Malegaon blast, is accused of instructing Lt-Col Purohit to procure the RDX and execute the blast. The ATS has arrested 11 people so far.
Dwivedi is also believed to have told ATS sleuths that he first joined the Indian Air Force in 1989 but opted out in 1990.
Officials managed to seize his two laptops before he could destroy them. “The police found records of over 15 meetings Dwivedi had with the other accused in the blast. Purohit used to videograph these meetings and, at one of these meetings, Abhinav Bharat convener Sameer Kulkarni is seen discussing funds collected for their cause,’’ an official said.
Special public prosecutor Rohini Salian has told a MCOCA court that Dwivedi is clearly heard asking others to “now listen to my plan’’ about the blast. “We have to do our duty in the interest of the nation and justice,’’ Salian said, referring to the larger conspiracy. Dwivedi is also seen talking about RDX, remote controls, timers, short- and long-range weapons and the conspiracy, Salian has told the court.

Sena calls bandh against ‘torture’

Shiv Sena chief Bal Thackeray called for a Maharashtra bandh on December 1 in protest against the alleged harsh treatment meted out to sadhvi Pragya Singh Thakur, Lt-Col Purohit and others arrested in connection with the Malegaon bomb blast. “Our commitment is to Hindutva. We don’t mind paying the fine to court. If the court is going to send us to jail, we are ready for it,’’ said Sanjay Raut, Sena MP and executive editor of Saamna. TNN

The above story was related to morning of Nov 26, 2008 and in a very hasty manner the perpetrators had acted in the evening of Nov 26, 2008. The blame game is not workable. The US security adviser had said that the Mumbai Drama was like Oklahama, Arizona when a federal building was exploded with 500 deaths.

This for the indians to decide the future of their country whether indian nation has become hostage in the hands of so called Hindu militants who are acting in the maner of Al-Qaeda.
 
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