Punjabi Culture in the subcontinent and beyond….

[KingMamba]

Nothing to say Pakistani Punjabis are brothers and Indian Punjabis are irrelevant.

 

[Psycho Pakistani]

These new gujju movies are made by gujjars themselves, then movies about rajput and arain were also made by their own biraderis.

While jats movies were made by non jats because our reputation goes byond the wall. Lol

Remember Weshi Jat and sequel Maula Jat? People say these two movies ruined our industry, but i don't care i love them, hilarious movies lol

One two movies here and there are acceptable but what is not acceptable is only this genre and nothing elso left to make in punjabi, that is where the problem is since last 20 years. And yes you are right and fact of the matter is that historically when we think of punjab we think of Jatts and Jattis, I am not jatt by the way but just giving my personal opinion that historically the most crude purest version of a punjabi was considered to be a Jatt and hence why many producer (many urdu speakers acutally) used to present punjabi characters as jatts before the other baradari peoples came in to produce movies based on their own baradaris. You will not find even a single punjabi hero being Gujjar in pre-1980 movies but you will find tons of movies where punjabi hero characters were depicted as jatts by non-jatt film producers. I think there was no need to be jealous by other baradaris, I don't why some baradaris got jealous with that.

 

[qamar1990]

the great gama

who wana mess with gujjars now?
@Shabaz Sharif
@pehgaam e mohabbat l

 

[Screambowl]

You might be following us, if there is anything common , indus valley civilization started in pakistan so culture started from pakistan.

hahah.. maan liya yaar. dick measuring contest ko ek taraf rakh bhai.

 

[Psycho Pakistani]

he is a south Indian from hyderabad yaar... gujjar kahan se bana diya usse.

There are Muslim Gujjars who migrated from south punjab living in hyderabad india, a lot of them actually , some of them still speak punjabi/saraiki , I once listened a BBC urdu program about these decendants of punjabi muslim Gujjars in hyderabad india. So it will not be shocking if Azhar udin being from hyderabad happens to have a Gujjar connection.

 

[qamar1990]

One two movies here and there are acceptable but what is not acceptable is only this genre and nothing elso left to make in punjabi, that is where the problem is since last 20 years. And yes you are right and fact of the matter is that historically when we think of punjab we think of Jatts and Jattis, I am not jatt by the way but just giving my personal opinion that historically the most crude purest version of a punjabi was considered to by Jatt and hence why many producer (many urdu speakers acutally) used to present punjabi characters as jatts before the other baradari peoples came in to produce movies based on their own baradaris. You will not find even a single punjabi hero being Gujjar in pre-1980 movies but you will find tons of movies where punjabi hero characters were depicted as jatts by non-jatt film producers. I think there was not need to be jealous by other baradaris, I don't why some baradaris got jealous with that.

thats it I'm unleashing @Azlan Haider on you get ready for some serious lessons

 

[M. Sarmad]

@Azlan Haider can you shed some light on this.

In Islamic encyclopaedia .' It has been said that why Gujjar community was spirited and courageous and they were known for their shrewdness i.e. despotism in the vicinity of Iran and had destroyed many empires and nations under their reign, that is why they were symbolised first of all by a wolf (Bhediya) localy known as Gurj. Hence, this word get transformed from Gurj to Gurjur to Gurez and later on these people were called by the name of Gurj or Gujjar or Gurjar.

Scholars of twentieth century have evolved another perspective according to which thousands of years ago this community moved from a place called Georgia i.e. Georgia/Gurjistan to India via Afghanistan. Hence, because of belonging to Gurjistan, they were called as Gujjar. Anthropological surveys of India have authenticated this perspective .

Colonel Tort argues that Gujjars are not descendants of Turkey or Arab. He links them to a huge empire. In "Rajasthan History" Col. Tort states that Gujjars are Greek and the World Gujjar or Garjar is of Greek origin. Page number 39 of Tareekh-e-Kokaz writes that Gujjars have come from Turkistan, and they are descendants of Noah. They are of the view that the word Gujjar is derived from 'Garji' who was descendant of Noah

A big chunk of scholars, agree that Gujjars actually have come from Georgia, which is located in Russia and is often called as Gurjistan. Till date whatever has been said or told about Gujjars cannot be verified logically . However, all scholars agree that this community had arrived in the Indian horizon in fifth to sixth century A.D

History tells us that Gujjars have ruled from Gujarat, Jodhpur, and Kathiawad to Baliya 641 century A.D. and during this time it was known as Gujjar Desh. Chawada and Solanki Gujjars have ruled over Deccan Gujarat from 610 A.D -942 A.D, while Gujjars ruled over here from 700 A.D-1573A.D. Central Institute of Indian language, Mysore have prepared a Grammar, in which is written that Gujjar left the plain areas after their decline and shifted to Himalayan regions. These people used to attack enemies while remaining hidden in hilly areas, but this trend could not last long and slowly they became the inhabitants of these areas. Many kings in J&K had enlisted Gujjars as criminal tribes, so that they can snatch power from them to prevent them from being autonomous. Different kings used to keep an eye over Gujjars who were there in their army. History tells us that in every period, each kingdom called rajputs and Sikhs and other Marshall communities from Punjab and settled them around Gujjar inhabited colonies, to protect themselves from attacks of Gujjars which they used to carry from hills to plain areas. Even today in whole of J&K where ever Gujjar colonies are located one can find some houses of Sikhs and Muslim Rajputs which verifies the policies of earlier kingdoms

 

[Screambowl]

There are Muslim Gujjars who migrated from south punjab living in hyderabad, a lot of them actually , some of them still speak punjabi/saraiki , I once listened a BBC urdu program about these decendants of punjabi muslim Gujjars in hyderabad. So it will not be shocking if Azhar udin being from hyderabad happens to have a Gujjar connection.

arre bhai .. India is vast. it is not easy to say who is gujjar and who is not. all mixed. He is a south Indian and not a gujjar, whole India knows.

and Gujjars have nothing to do with Punjabi culture... the term Gujjar came from Gau(cow) , care tackers of cow. Like Yadavs. They are gujjars.

 

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

chuadhary saab tussi ve "contribute" karro torra

kaun Chuadhary saab? pagal da...... lol.
I am a Gilani that is pathan from maternal side.

 

[xyxmt]

When I was a child in 80s , some people used to eat roti with a mixture of salt and chilli only due to poverty. I myself used to eat roti with yogurt mixed with salt and chilli , we used to call it lasanpla. Those were simple days , people were poor but they did not have inferiority complexes that we see these days around us. We used to get into the house of any family in our street , they never used to bother. When I used to go back to my grandparent's village , I together with my cousins will cross the roofs of all the houses in our village starting from one corner and ending at the last corner. Even dogs used to roam over the roofs of the people without any worry, those were true "punjabi" days of my life

that was very common say 30 or so years ago, guys will goto work in farm leaving early morning with roti gurh and onion, that used to be there lunch and super, I was born and grew up in Karachi but my grand father lived in Talagang area village we used to go there in summer and will goto work in the fields just to eat roti with gurh and a maati full of lassi to drink all day...then we come back home after summer and brag all about it lol

 

[KingMamba]

kaun Chuadhary saab? pagal da...... lol.
I am a Gilani that is pathan from maternal side.

Gilani from father side?

 

[qamar1990]

he is a south Indian from hyderabad yaar... gujjar kahan se bana diya usse.

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[Shabaz Sharif]

One two movies here and there are acceptable but what is not acceptable is only this genre and nothing elso left to make in punjabi, that is where the problem is since last 20 years. And yes you are right and fact of the matter is that historically when we think of punjab we think of Jatts and Jattis, I am not jatt by the way but just giving my personal opinion that historically the most crude purest version of a punjabi was considered to by Jatt and hence why many producer (many urdu speakers acutally) used to present punjabi characters as jatts before the other baradari peoples came in to produce movies based on their own baradaris. You will not find even a single punjabi hero being Gujjar in pre-1980 movies but you will find tons of movies where punjabi hero characters were depicted as jatts by non-jatt film producers. I think there was not need to be jealous by other baradaris, I don't why some baradaris got jealous with that.

You are right, we didn't need thousands of more movies on similar subject lol two were enough.

 

[Psycho Pakistani]

the great gama

who wana mess with gujjars now?
@Shabaz Sharif
@pehgaam e mohabbat l

Great Gama was Kashmiri Butt, you got it wrong here. Nawaz Sharif's wife Kalsoom Nawaz is grand daughter of Great Gama's brother Imam Bakhsh pehlwan from maternal side.

 

[qamar1990]

kaun Chuadhary saab? pagal da...... lol.
I am a Gilani that is pathan from maternal side.

yard you told you are arain before lol
they are chaudrys