PTI sacks Pervez Khattak for asking workers to quit former ruling party

[Jango]

You need me to tell you how far there is history of PPP and Noonies were repressed? Go back to the 1970s and start--or maybe even before that. Their top and next tier leadership AND political workers had been literally flogged, hanged, exile multiple times, imprisoned for long periods, reputation destroyed, cases filed, made to run between different courts.

Please enumerate cases of N league.

PPP had it bad during Zia, but after that when has either of these parties been under such oppression?

 

[Meengla]

Please enumerate cases of N league.
PPP had it bad during Zia, but after that when has either of these parties been under such oppression?

Enumerate? I could Google and give you a long list of the abuses done to PPP and Noonies but nothing will satisfy PTI fanbois. Nothing! I too could start asking for details and proof about the 'rape' or the '10,000 workers jailed' blah blah asking for names or similar proofs. That topic would go nowhere. Start a new topic and you may find those against Imran come up with a long list of grievances from 'the other side'. But you know what: Neither you'd be satisfied with their answers nor would they 'buy' your propaganda that PTI has suffered the most at the hand of the Establishment.

 

[Jango]

Enumerate? I could Google and give you a long list of the abuses done to PPP and Noonies

Just give 10.

Where valid businesses of N league leaders were dismantled overnight, or where 3 generations of a middle class family of third tier leadership was vanished for a month, or where journalists were killed or abducted with such impunity, or where people were given bail 10 times but arrested on another bogus similar case in some district of Balochistan where you couldn't shit inside your own home.

The only case that comes close of late is of Ali Wazir, no one else.

Just a few weeks ago, Ali Nawaz Awan's brother who has worked for Deloitte, Telenor, and Careem abroad was picked up, for absolutely no reason at all. Just because Ali Nawaz is underground right now.

All of N league went on an all expenses paid trip to Middle East during Musharraf's time, that was the extent of the 'zyadti' that happened to them.

Ever since Zia, nothing of that sort has happened till now.

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

You wouldn't understand if you are hell bent on making IK and PTI be seen as outcasts rather than focus on the circus of our governance.

The tragedy is that the military establisment picks out people, threatens them, and the next day they switch parties, but instead of calling this out or raising a voice against state brutality, you find it much more convenient to blame 'X banda sath nhn khara tha, yeh this 27 saal ki struglgle'.

Imran Khan can have a cardiac arrest today and die tomorrow for all I care, and his party can go in a hole 100 feet below ground.

But this tradition of state brutality will continue. Just change the name.

Now moving on to the laila majnu qissa you wrote, tell me, how many people joined this new party and how many are still left? Out of the 50 odd people who were named in that classic ISI type list, 10 have gone on video and said they aren't joining the new party.

2 people were given on physical remand to the police on Friday, and today they were sitting in this meeting in qalaf walay suit, without any bail orders or anything. How do you think that happened? To those who were tortured in jail and have switched, I would completely understand.

Shahram Tarakai, Asad Qaiser, Atif Khan, Ali Muhammad, Shehryar Afridi, Shah Farman, and many more are still with PTI.

Perhaps it's time you stop worrying about Imran Khan and PTI and start worrying more about the state of affairs in Pakistan's governance and political structure.

Imran Khan used to celebrate these acts when establishment was hoarding members of other parties towards PTI.

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

Just give 10.

Where valid businesses of N league leaders were dismantled overnight, or where 3 generations of a middle class family of third tier leadership was vanished for a month, or where journalists were killed or abducted with such impunity, or where people were given bail 10 times but arrested on another bogus similar case in some district of Balochistan where you couldn't shit inside your own home.

The only case that comes close of late is of Ali Wazir, no one else.

Just a few weeks ago, Ali Nawaz Awan's brother who has worked for Deloitte, Telenor, and Careem abroad was picked up, for absolutely no reason at all. Just because Ali Nawaz is underground right now.

All of N league went on an all expenses paid trip to Middle East during Musharraf's time, that was the extent of the 'zyadti' that happened to them.

Ever since Zia, nothing of that sort has happened till now.

During Mushrraf Nawaz Sharif and all family members were locked in Attock fort for 15 months, all the Patriots were in jail before joining government, the mighty PMLN was reduced to just 18 NA seats, Imran Khan was sporting Mushrraf for all this at that time.

Even press conferences is not new phenomena:

 

[Riz]

Imran Khan used to celebrate these acts when establishment was hoarding members of other parties towards PTI.

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oey dhakan it was not establishment but khan was so popular at that time that every one want to join PTI

Enumerate? I could Google and give you a long list of the abuses done to PPP and Noonies but nothing will satisfy PTI fanbois. Nothing! I too could start asking for details and proof about the 'rape' or the '10,000 workers jailed' blah blah asking for names or similar proofs. That topic would go nowhere. Start a new topic and you may find those against Imran come up with a long list of grievances from 'the other side'. But you know what: Neither you'd be satisfied with their answers nor would they 'buy' your propaganda that PTI has suffered the most at the hand of the Establishment.

in musharraf era almost whole PMLN joined PMLQ , and after the assassination of bhuto 40 out of 48 ppp candidates left PPP BUT both of these parties never faced such a fascist behavior of the military where their mothers , daughters, sisters detained and forced them naked

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

oey dhakan it was not establishment but khan was so popular at that time that every one want to join PTI


in musharraf era almost whole PMLN joined PMLQ , and after the assassination of bhuto 40 out of 48 ppp candidates left PPP BUT both of these parties never faced such a fascist behavior of the military where their mothers , daughters, sisters detained and forced them naked

Here gen Zaheer telling the story of making of PTI . . .

https://twitter.com/x/status/1541440435519995909

PPP won 79 seats and only 12 members joined patriots. All of them were in the custody of NAB for years.
Aitzaz, Gilani, P Ashraf etc remained in custody for another year.

 

[Riz]

Here gen Zaheer telling the story of making of PTI . . .

https://twitter.com/x/status/1541440435519995909

sab bakwas ha , if establishment is so powerful then why not hafiz and nadeem anjum arranging the IPP jalsa on minar e pakistan ground ? keun phatti hoi ha inki ?
zaheer ul islama said we tried many parties and we all know he is talking about PPP and PMLN too.
who brought back these looters into power ?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1623604478703243265

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1680900973902942210

Now they are finding faults as usual.

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

this is epic:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1681020999595094017

 

[Meengla]

During Mushrraf Nawaz Sharif and all family members were locked in Attock fort for 15 months, all the Patriots were in jail before joining government, the mighty PMLN was reduced to just 18 NA seats, Imran Khan was sporting Mushrraf for all this at that time.

I don't blame Imran for supporting Musharraf--they are all unprincipled/opportunists except one uses the highest credentials in Islamic history to buttress his credentials and yet is a total hypocritical--and physically and internally ugly! I can't imagine a 70+ year old ugly buddhaa is attractive to people! He is truly one of the ugliest persons in Pakistan's politics.

 

[Jango]

During Mushrraf Nawaz Sharif and all family members were locked in Attock fort for 15 months, all the Patriots were in jail before joining government, the mighty PMLN was reduced to just 18 NA seats, Imran Khan was sporting Mushrraf for all this at that time.

Even press conferences is not new phenomena:

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Being pressurized to change parties is nothing new.

But no one was threatened with their lives or of their parents or of their children.

Actually you know what, khush raho jaisay bhi chaho. Jab 2 saal baad yehi Asim Munir aap par paray ga phir akar yaheen threads banatay rehna.

This is a messed up country which will remain messed up for decades to come.

Imran Khan used to celebrate these acts when establishment was hoarding members of other parties towards PTI.

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Yup, these people were in jail for 1 month and as soon as they switched they got released.

Or, Ramesh Kumar was sent on physical remand and then was seen at a wedding hall to switch parties two days later, right?

Also, apni hi screenshot main doosri tweet parhna zara, Bosan ko kis nay switch karaya tha?

And finally, most of the people who came into PTI in 2018 came after winning the elections as independents. They joined after winning the elections. Your false equivalence is shocking, but not really.

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

Being pressurized to change parties is nothing new.

But no one was threatened with their lives or of their parents or of their children.

Actually you know what, khush raho jaisay bhi chaho. Jab 2 saal baad yehi Asim Munir aap par paray ga phir akar yaheen threads banatay rehna.

This is a messed up country which will remain messed up for decades to come.



Yup, these people were in jail for 1 month and as soon as they switched they got released.

Or, Ramesh Kumar was sent on physical remand and then was seen at a wedding hall to switch parties two days later, right?

Also, apni hi screenshot main doosri tweet parhna zara, Bosan ko kis nay switch karaya tha?

And finally, most of the people who came into PTI in 2018 came after winning the elections as independents. They joined after winning the elections. Your false equivalence is shocking, but not really.

Threatened to death?? They were SENTENCED to death, even in Imran Khan tenure Rana Sana was facing a case in which he can be sentenced to death penalty, Hanid Abbasi and Saad Rafiq along with his wife Ghazala Saad Rafique Butt, brother salman Rafiq, were sent to jail because they were contesting election against imran Khan. families of Fawad hassan Fawad, Ahad Cheema, , Shehbaz Sharif, Khawaja Asif, Khurram Dastgir, Shahid Khaqan Abbasi and many others were implicated in frivolous cases. Ahad Cheema and Fawad were being pressurised that give a statement against Sharifs we will not only set you free but give you a lucrative package.

These PTI tigers were facing ACE cases and melted. ACE cases does not contain death penalty.

 

[Meengla]

Threatened to death?? They were SENTENCED to death, even in Imran Khan tenure Rana Sana was facing a case in which he can be sentenced to death penalty, Hanid Abbasi and Saad Rafiq along with his wife Ghazala Saad Rafique Butt, brother salman Rafiq, were sent to jail because they were contesting election against imran Khan. families of Fawad hassan Fawad, Ahad Cheema, , Shehbaz Sharif, Khawaja Asif, Khurram Dastgir, Shahid Khaqan Abbasi and many others were implicated in frivolous cases. Ahad Cheema and Fawad were being pressurised that give a statement against Sharifs we will not only set you free but give you a lucrative package.

These PTI tigers were facing ACE cases and melted. ACE cases does not contain death penalty.

Correct.
What was done to Rana Sanaullah was absolutely horrible--so bad that even Fawad Chaudry, when Fawad was still part of Imran's team, condemned the planted heroine case against Rana S. Not only Rana was framed in such a horrible crime but he was put in a real prison and faced horrible treatment there for prolonged period. But Rana persevered in his determination and loyalty even though, at that time, with the Establishment firmly behind Imran, Rana's chances of finding any 'justice' were remote.

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

Correct.
What was done to Rana Sanaullah was absolutely horrible--so bad that even Fawad Chaudry, when Fawad was still part of Imran's team, condemned the planted heroine case against Rana S. Not only Rana was framed in such a horrible crime but he was put in a real prison and faced horrible treatment there for prolonged period. But Rana persevered in his determination and loyalty even though, at that time, with the Establishment firmly behind Imran, Rana's chances of finding any 'justice' were remote.

Ahad Cheema was in jail for 38 months during Imran's tenure, from the DG NAB to the Chairman NAB himself kept telling him that he is a good officer, we know that he did not commit corruption, just state that Shahbaz Sharif is involved in corruption and You go home from jail, enjoy the job, enjoy the promotion, or else...

And because of his refusal, he stayed in jail for 38 months. 21 grade officers were also deprived of a bed, lived uner 24 hours CCTV camera, when they wanted torture him, they turn off the fan, someone asked Ahad Cheema statinf about these sufferings that in his opinion, who can be responsible for the torture, Chairman NAB Justice J. Iqbal, Lt. Gen. Faiz Hameed, General Bajwa, or Imran Khan, he said that all of them could be responsible because they wanted support for the narrative of corruption against their opponents, but I feel sad only for our judiciary. It's about the character, today the bail is given as soon as the accused appears, rather the bail in advance before the case is filed, but my bail request was not heard for 13 months.

This story is not only of Ahad Cheema, Fawad Hasan Fawad, Khaqan Abbasi, Rana Sanaullah, Ahsan Iqbal, Khawaja Asif, Hanif Abbasi, Kamran Michael, Raja Qamar Salam, Miftah Ismail, Salman Rafiq, Hafiz Noman, Saad Rafiq, Hamza Shahbaz, As for Shahbaz Sharif, Maryam Nawaz, Nawaz Sharif, and many other political leaders and civil officers who were dragged for political motives in Imran Khan's state of Madina,

Ahad Cheema was asked, "Do you leave the account of what happened to you to Allah?" He replied, "even if I don't leave, there will be an accounting". And we're seeing the Karma.