Horse_Rider
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How do you plan to finance this endeavor ??
We must be practical when suggesting any such idea. Its not even possible for PAF to completely replace the massive number of Mirages + F-7s / F-7PGs with JFTs and you are suggesting to do it with J-10CP ? Currently perhaps the most top tier aircraft of PAF ?
I am only seeing 25 J-10Cs or maybe 36 for atleast next 4-5 years. On a separate wishlist, we can keep adding as many as we want.
CAC has sold (or is selling) the J-10C manufacturing line to some Tier III aircraft manufacturer in China. The Chinese have met, or, are close to meeting their needed numbers for the J-10C. Their needs going forward are heavier and stealthier jets for their threat management (F-22, F-35, Japanese and Korean 5th Gen coming up, SU-30's, F-18's (potential Indian purchase), Rafales, Typhoons, and then the US 6th gen getting ready, stealthy UCAV's, etc, almost all twin engine heavier platforms). J-10's future role is internal / coastal defense, etc. This production line can be reused / setup by Pakistan cost effectively. It will benefit China, win-win for both as J-10C nicely meets Pakistan's needs.
So the orders need to revise in a way to include this license production. Another issue that makes this case is that the Chinese DO NOT want to collaborate with Turkey on projects (it's NATO) and vis-a-vis. So Pakistan needing Turkish weaponry for the J-10C will need to do it in Pakistan through Turkish tech consultants so why not build this capability in house.
J-10CP's standardized across PAF, and with a locally assembled future stealthy airframe (similar to J-20 single engine if you will) with Turkish / Chinese weaponry makes the best sense, especially with our financial situation, we can build an advance industry locally including limited stealth capability that can expand later and license produce much cheaper top tier jets.
1: " (and acquired more F-16's AIM C-7/D's and AIM9 latest),"
you are denying your own statement above. although i know we can acquire hardware from west.
2: " Converting a 'non-stealth' fighter to "stealth one': Any airframe can be redesigned to become stealth optimized."
are you sure what you are talking about? though i rule this out but still you can only make Chinese agree on it, we will back off on a feasibility once presented?
3: "but the J-20 seems like a larger J-10C with obvious changes for it to have twin engines"
above statement is enough i don't have say anything to ridicule.
4: "the J-10 (future stealth version) can borrow from"
is China planning on it???
5: "China will do whatever Pakistan will pay for"
refer to No. 2
" financial situation"
refer to No. 1
listen man, i have nothing against you but at least catch a clear direction.
this is my last reply to you... you can go on ...
i edited a bit
If you must get into an argument with me, at least do some due diligence properly. Tell you what, go review the above statements I made again and analyze them in depth. If you could understand what I was saying *and why*, I think you'd delete your post above.
If that doesn't happen, just let me know and I'll explain. Our political culture has taught us terribly and we've become so intense that we can't debate nicely. It's always the other one's wrong or doesn't know what he / she is saying and always some conspiracy theory involved.