Problems for India's Modi Balochistan rant leaves Iran, Afghanistan & Pakistan Uneasy

[Musafir117]

India doesn't need more Suri Ghori or Mughals Modi Sarkar enough to destroy itself.
Wish Modi stay there for decade more

 

[Thorough Pro]

so you want NS to go on a rant like this modi fart?

If we have a coward PM even street dogs will bark on us

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Nope.
Modi is stupid but not as stupid that he will not take Iran in confidence when raising Baluchistan.
Iran is only going to side with India.
Money talks.

The only sane post so far on this thread.

Those who use words like Chai walla display both their ignorance and immaturity.

Times are changing , interesting times ahead.

The old saying goes like ' More difficult than getting a new idea in is getting the old one out "

Somehow this seems to apply more & more to the Pak approach . There is no need to stick to a mistake just because you spent so much time & effort in making it.

Right so Iranians will jeopardize their own sistan-baluchistan to carve out a baluchistan from Pakistan just for money..the most fcking sane comment on pdf ever,.

 

[shhh]

Right so Iranians will jeopardize their own sistan-baluchistan to carve out a baluchistan from Pakistan just for money..the most fcking sane comment on pdf ever,.

Buddy, you actually think Modi wants to liberate Baluchistan.
No, he is irking Pakistan, the message is: "Kashmir is our internal problem, if you will interfere in our internal problem, we will interfere in yours".

He is raising Human Rights violation in Pakistani Baluchistan.

It was a desperate reactionary move by GOI. GOI under Modi has become a toy in Pakistan's hands. That is why Sartaj Aziz said that Modi has just vindicated Pakistan's claim about India's export of terror inside Pakistan.

you did what we wanted you to do.



They are practically siding with Pakistan no matter what global times says.

They have categorically said that their CPEC projects would go forward as schedule no matter what you say or protest.

That is practical support for Pakistan my dear. They are our allies on Baluchistan long before Modi jee was even selling chai.



This was all act of desperation. Pakistan establishment is very much happy and satisfied with way things are going right now in IOK and India.



Money talks so much that Iran would support India in destabilizing Baluchistan that would eventually destabilize Irani Baluchistan too??

Think again my dear. And do read history of joint collaboration of Pakistan and Iran when it comes to Baluchistan.



People are using term "chai wala" as a symbol of Modi's ignorance when it comes region's history and geography.

His folly of Baluchistan is going to hurt India only and that is why people are calling him chai wala who doesn't know anything about this region.

As for that "sane" post. It comes from acute dislike for Iran and nothing else.

Read my post above.

India doesn't need more Suri Ghori or Mughals Modi Sarkar enough to destroy itself.
Wish Modi stay there for decade more

I have the same wish.
Modi's rule is good for Pakistan.

Each and every moves of GoI is planned and in such a way that the eminent experts in South Block knows each and every fallout ,advantages and disadvantages of that statement.
Look at the article of Global Times ,Chinese wont side with anyone.
This was all preplanned and Pakistan just gave an excuse to do it .They right fell in to that trap

They have made an stupid move, Sir, you just cant see it.

In fact Indians did what a Pakistani leader cant even think.

Yes, Our leaders are not THAT sort of idiots, that your leader is now.

 

[airmarshal]

Our PM Nawaz Sharif is an extremely coward and immoral man. Not once did he say RAW spy caught in Baluchistan doing subversion is a spy. Not once. If there was another country, whose interests were put at stake like India is trying to do, he would have at least made a public statement about India's intentions.

But since this dumbo has interests with Indian steel businessmen, he chooses to stay quiet. The government before him, that of Zardari was no different. These people dont have interest of the country at heart.

 

[shhh]

The only sane post so far on this thread.

Those who use words like Chai walla display both their ignorance and immaturity.

They are showing ignorance and immaturity of Modi, you are not able to see it.

Times are changing , interesting times ahead.

Yup

The old saying goes like ' More difficult than getting a new idea in is getting the old one out "

Previous idea was better, this idea is just shi*y.

Somehow this seems to apply more & more to the Pak approach . There is no need to stick to a mistake just because you spent so much time & effort in making it.

Not sure what are you trying to do with this.

 

[SQ8]

But, make no mistake, a significant and vocal section of Modi’s starry-eyed followers anticipate Pakistan’s disintegration in all earnestness.

Thank you Ambassador for highlighting every Indian on PDF.. except 5 or 6.

 

[Viper0011.]

Seems like Indian Prime Minister Modi rant on local issue of Balochistan has left Iran, Afghanistan & Pakistan left wondering how mad Modi has become, due to especially Kashmir, and then Dalit, Moist, Sikh's Khalistan separation problems faced by India.

India’s Modi mounts the Baluchi tiger

August 16, 2016 by AT Top Writers, M.K. Bhadrakumar

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi is sadly mistaken if he thinks that he gave a ‘tit-for-tat’ for Pakistan’s interference in Kashmir affairs by raising human rights violations in Baluchistan in his Independence Day address to the nation on Aug 15. Kashmir is an international issue, whereas Baluchistan is local issue which includes Iran, Pakistan. India’s friends like Iran will have reason to worry if the genie of Baluchi sub-nationalism is let loose. It seems Modi mounted the Baluchi tiger without realizing that he may find it difficult to dismount and let go of it.

Narendra Modi earned a unique distinction this weekend as the first prime minister in India’s history to raise human rights violations in the Pakistani province of Baluchistan and Iran Sistan-Baluchistan, where a separatist insurgency has been raging for decades.

Modi feels elated that Baluchi nationalists adore him for doing that. He chose his customary Independence Day address to the nation on Monday from the ramparts of Red Fort, seat of the Muslim Mughal dynasty in Old Delhi, to stage the theatrics rich in symbolism.

However, even as Modi was espousing the cause of the Baluchis on Monday, in his home state of Gujarat, a massive public rally was held by the Dalit community – ‘untouchables’ in Hindu caste hierarchy – with the support of Muslims, protesting against persecution and social and political discrimination.


To put matters in perspective, Dalit population in India is estimated to be in the region of 200 million; Baluchis of Pakistan number around 7 million.

Indeed, human rights and Modi government make an oxymoron. Political morality should have prompted Modi to steer clear of the human rights situation in Baluchistan. So, why did he decide otherwise? The short answer is – expediency.


Modi is a past-master in diversionary tactic. At a time when an Intifada-like movement is erupting in Muslim-majority Kashmir Valley seeking independence for the region from the rest of India, the specter of ‘Kashmir problem’ once again haunts Delhi.


Intimidation or use of brute force by the Indian state, compliant local government, corrupt political class, blanket deployment of security forces numbering over half a million – the hackneyed formula to keep control over Kashmir Valley may have exhausted its possibilities after over six decades of wear and tear. Fatigue is visible in India.

An exit strategy would mean ‘out-of-the-box’ solutions of the kind Britain found for Northern Ireland, for instance. But that would call for decentralisation and devolution of powers (which was also, by the way, the basis of the accession of the region to India at the time of independence in 1947).


However, that very thought is anathema for the Hindu fundamentalists who mentor the Modi government. The ideologues of Hindutva find it abhorrent that the Muslim-majority Kashmir Valley could ever be conceded local autonomy.

The result is that Delhi finds itself between the rock and a hard place to quell the unrest in the Kashmir Valley, which has been under curfew for over a month. There is some talk that regions of the Valley may be put under direct army rule. Delhi seems preparing for a massive crackdown.


At such a juncture, Modi government finds it expedient to stage a political drama by whipping up xenophobia and make it look as if Pakistani interference is fuelling the upheaval in the Valley – rather than the other way around.

Tirades against Pakistan help boost the sagging morale of the Hindu nationalist lobby and divert public attention away from the crisis in the Valley.

Of course, the television channels through the weekend have been dutifully conducting discourses regarding a non-issue of Baluchistan. Self-styled experts are digging into madeup Baluchistan’s past history to weigh the chances of its secession from Pakistan.

The Hindu fundamentalists visualise Modi as the Iron Man of Indian politics.

They are wedded to the belief that Modi will someday vivisect Pakistan and it will be the final nail on the coffin of the Pakistani state, opening the door for the undoing of the Partition of 1947 and the emergence of Akhant Bharat (a unified Hindu-dominated Indian subcontinent.)

All this may look to the outside world to be a bizarre notion – betwixt two nuclear powers in the second decade of the 21st century. But, make no mistake, a significant and vocal section of Modi’s starry-eyed followers anticipate Pakistan’s disintegration in all earnestness.

Evidently, Modi took to stage-acting on such a potentially explosive theme as human rights without thinking through the profound consequences. For a start, he is sadly mistaken in his estimation that this is ‘tit-for-tat’ for Pakistan’s interference in India’s internal affairs.

Kashmir is an international issue, whereas Baluchistan is on par with Chechnya or Xinjiang or Mindanao or Kurdistan – an entirely different category.

The fact of the matter is that even friendly countries like Iran or Afghanistan would have cause to worry if the genie of Baluchi sub-nationalism is let loose.


Iran in particular will feel uneasy that India is destabilizing the hugely sensitive region of Baluchistan. (Iran’s sister province of Sistan-Baluchistan is already seething with militancy and separatism.)

Pakistan has been cautioning Tehran against allowing Indian presence in Chabahar Port, which is located in Sistan-Baluchistan province. Pakistan has also been propagating that India is fostering cross-border terrorism in Baluchistan, aimed at undermining the $46 billion China-Pakistan Economic Corridor.

Modi may have unwittingly given credibility to these Pakistani allegations whose sole purpose is to malign India as a country that uses terrorism as an instrument of regional policy.

The point is, Modi’s tirade against Pakistan may only draw more international attention to the carnage in the Valley, which is after all the root cause of India-Pakistan tensions today. India’s interests lie in keeping things under wraps in the Valley.

Again, Pakistan will turn the table on India’s own abysmal human rights record. Pakistan may not have a lily-white reputation, but India too has many skeletons in the closet – such as the grotesque human rights dimensions of oppressive Hindu caste system or the alienation in the Christian-majority north-eastern regions of the country.

Suffice it to say, Modi has mounted the Baluchi tiger without the foresight that he may now come under compulsion to keep riding it. Pakistan won’t let him dismount easily, either. Pakistan will react more profoundly.

Meanwhile, India’s other tiny neighbours – Bangladesh, Bhutan, Nepal Sri Lanka and the Maldives – are watching. They will be extremely wary of the perceived hegemonic intentions of Delhi. They will increasingly look toward China as a ‘balancer’ in the region.

On the other hand, tensions are steadily increasing in the India-China relations, too. The Sino-Indian ties are set to deteriorate even further as India lurches toward the US’ rebalance strategy in Asia.

One can easily foretell that the SAARC summit due in Islamabad in November has been effectively derailed. With that, India’s leadership role in South Asia is crumbling. Modi’s regional policies face a difficult future.

So long as Modi remains in power, normalization of India-Pakistan relations is simply out of the question. The probability is that tensions may cascade, and the two nuclear powers may be risking a war at some point.

The Baluchi tiger with its rider has begun walking toward the dark and deep jungle.

Ambassador MK Bhadrakumar served as a career diplomat in the Indian Foreign Service for over 29 years, with postings including India’s ambassador to Uzbekistan (1995-1998) and to Turkey (1998-2001). He writes the “Indian Punchline” blog and has written regularly for Asia Times since 2001.

http://atimes.com/20...-baluchi-tiger/

Mr. MK Bhadrakumar has written a very realistic article. Things like these are what makes a writer fun to read, yet, teaches everyone a few things they didn't know. I could just tell by the time I got to the third paragraph that the writer had serious experience in foreign policy. And at the end, I read his credentials and was impressed.

Regardless, India should focus on building bridges, not alienate everyone. India is a larger and more powerful country in this region. I'd expect maturity and seriousness in dealing with everyone. No matter how complex or weird the situation may be. Making threatening and harassing statements don't qualify for real leadership. Rather they show insecurity!!

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Buddy, you actually think Modi wants to liberate Baluchistan.
No, he is irking Pakistan, the message is: "Kashmir is our internal problem, if you will interfere in our internal problem, we will interfere in yours".

He is raising Human Rights violation in Pakistani Baluchistan.



Read my post above.



I have the same wish.
Modi's rule is good for Pakistan.



They have made an stupid move, Sir, you just cant see it.



Yes, Our leaders are not THAT sort of idiots, that your leader is now.

Whatever the jackshit Modi plans i really give two hoots, my point was on the Iranians. Its already out in open. India/Iran definitely have convergence on economic partnership but not on strategic basis.

 

[Dawood Ibrahim]

so you want NS to go on a rant like this modi fart?

If our PM is coward for others and brave enough to defend his corruption than you tell me what do write

 

[shhh]

Whatever the jackshit Modi plans i really give two hoots, my point was on the Iranians. Its already out in open. India/Iran definitely have convergence on economic partnership but not on strategic basis.

Khulbushan Yadev should have been a clue

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Khulbushan Yadev should have been a clue

clue to what? like OBL could have been a clue to the world.There are always details which you perhaps you dont even know in this case.

 

[shhh]

clue to what? like OBL could have been a clue to the world.There are always details which you perhaps you dont even know in this case.

Clue to the fact that Iran has been supporting Indian ambitions in Baluchistan for a long time

 

[Nicky G]

Where's the part about Iran of Afghanistan being uneasy. Its the ususal anti-Modi rant, hardly anything substantive.

We should blame our leaders.How can an indian even think of talking against Pakistan that too at the level of Baluchistan.

You are suffering from delusion of grandeur. There is nothing that Pak is capable of that would deter an Indian leader from such talk if he so wished.

Besides, you accuse us of fermenting trouble in Baloch with God knows how may thousand RAW agents. Compared to that, this would be peanuts.

 

[Arsalan]

Desperate moves after the sad incidents in Kashmir!!

Not just desperate but stupid as well. The Kashmir issue is something the world knows about, Baluchistan is more of a figment of imagination, no way close the Kashmir problem that have been the bone of contention between two nuclear armed states for decades now! THE WORLD KNOWS IT MR. MODI! No sane person can compare the two!

I would advice the Pakistani members not to take such things very seriously!! Empty vessels make most noise!

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