Problems for India's Modi Balochistan rant leaves Iran, Afghanistan & Pakistan Uneasy

[zebra7]

Seems like Indian Prime Minister Modi rant on local issue of Balochistan has left Iran, Afghanistan & Pakistan left wondering how mad Modi has become, due to especially Kashmir, and then Dalit, Moist, Sikh's Khalistan separation problems faced by India.

He He Ha Ha

How is it a RANT ?? It could be a long planned strategy of GOI.

 

[Sam.]

Lol they thin calling names such as 'Chai wala' is something to be proud of. When a chai wala, tyre puncture karne walla become Pakistan PM then Pakistan will be on right path.

 

[Asian.Century]

India raising madeup bogey of Balochistan has now come to haunt it as it has to keep on that route. It has not gone well with Iran, Afghans and Pakistanis as well as local Balochis. Balochis are making a joke out of nobody Modi.

on the other hand the tide in Kashmir is turning on its own, a complete indegenious independence struggle has started bigger without any material support from Pakistan.

The fact is, Kashmir celebrates Pakistani Independence Day, celebrates Eid on the same day as Pakistan (not India), has an insurgency against India, and has mass protests at an alarming rate. The Kashmir independence movement is getting better day by day.

India is weak, vulnerable and under immense pressure and thats what Modi govt is displaying....its desparation.

 

[Thomas M]

Modi needs lessons in geography...this is why Chai wala becoming a president is a bad idea...his chai wala mentality will always be exhibited...

Have you ever heard something called "dignity of labour" ?? If this is your thoughts regarding a tea sellers, I should really appreciate your cultural upbringing.

Moreover India is a real democracy unlike some of our neigbhours who have a sham democracy in place. That's why even the least underprivileged in our society can become PM if he has a popular mandate and we are admired by the whole world for conducting free and fair elections, unlike some of our neigbhours where allegations of rigging is more a news than a party winning an election.

 

[Great Sachin]

Modi needs lessons in geography...this is why Chai wala becoming a president is a bad idea...his chai wala mentality will always be exhibited...

Chai wala Pakistan ko pani pila rahaa hai...
He isolated Pakistan in Arab world

 

[Areesh]

Each and every moves of GoI is planned and in such a way that the eminent experts in South Block knows each and every fallout ,advantages and disadvantages of that statement.

It was a desperate reactionary move by GOI. GOI under Modi has become a toy in Pakistan's hands. That is why Sartaj Aziz said that Modi has just vindicated Pakistan's claim about India's export of terror inside Pakistan.

you did what we wanted you to do.

Look at the article of Global Times ,Chinese wont side with anyone.

They are practically siding with Pakistan no matter what global times says.

They have categorically said that their CPEC projects would go forward as schedule no matter what you say or protest.

That is practical support for Pakistan my dear. They are our allies on Baluchistan long before Modi jee was even selling chai.

This was all preplanned and Pakistan just gave an excuse to do it .They right fell in to that trap

This was all act of desperation. Pakistan establishment is very much happy and satisfied with way things are going right now in IOK and India.

Nope.
Modi is stupid but not as stupid that he will not take Iran in confidence when raising Baluchistan.
Iran is only going to side with India.
Money talks.

Money talks so much that Iran would support India in destabilizing Baluchistan that would eventually destabilize Irani Baluchistan too??

Think again my dear. And do read history of joint collaboration of Pakistan and Iran when it comes to Baluchistan.

The only sane post so far on this thread.

Those who use words like Chai walla display both their ignorance and immaturity.

Times are changing , interesting times ahead.

The old saying goes like ' More difficult than getting a new idea in is getting the old one out "

Somehow this seems to apply more & more to the Pak approach . There is no need to stick to a mistake just because you spent so much time & effort in making it.

People are using term "chai wala" as a symbol of Modi's ignorance when it comes region's history and geography.

His folly of Baluchistan is going to hurt India only and that is why people are calling him chai wala who doesn't know anything about this region.

As for that "sane" post. It comes from acute dislike for Iran and nothing else.

 

[neem456]

 

[kabooter_maila]

Seems like Indian Prime Minister Modi rant on local issue of Balochistan has left Iran, Afghanistan & Pakistan left wondering how mad Modi has become, due to especially Kashmir, and then Dalit, Moist, Sikh's Khalistan separation problems faced by India.

India’s Modi mounts the Baluchi tiger

August 16, 2016 by AT Top Writers, M.K. Bhadrakumar

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi is sadly mistaken if he thinks that he gave a ‘tit-for-tat’ for Pakistan’s interference in Kashmir affairs by raising human rights violations in Baluchistan in his Independence Day address to the nation on Aug 15. Kashmir is an international issue, whereas Baluchistan is local issue which includes Iran, Pakistan. India’s friends like Iran will have reason to worry if the genie of Baluchi sub-nationalism is let loose. It seems Modi mounted the Baluchi tiger without realizing that he may find it difficult to dismount and let go of it.

Narendra Modi earned a unique distinction this weekend as the first prime minister in India’s history to raise human rights violations in the Pakistani province of Baluchistan and Iran Sistan-Baluchistan, where a separatist insurgency has been raging for decades.

Modi feels elated that Baluchi nationalists adore him for doing that. He chose his customary Independence Day address to the nation on Monday from the ramparts of Red Fort, seat of the Muslim Mughal dynasty in Old Delhi, to stage the theatrics rich in symbolism.

However, even as Modi was espousing the cause of the Baluchis on Monday, in his home state of Gujarat, a massive public rally was held by the Dalit community – ‘untouchables’ in Hindu caste hierarchy – with the support of Muslims, protesting against persecution and social and political discrimination.


To put matters in perspective, Dalit population in India is estimated to be in the region of 200 million; Baluchis of Pakistan number around 7 million.

Indeed, human rights and Modi government make an oxymoron. Political morality should have prompted Modi to steer clear of the human rights situation in Baluchistan. So, why did he decide otherwise? The short answer is – expediency.


Modi is a past-master in diversionary tactic. At a time when an Intifada-like movement is erupting in Muslim-majority Kashmir Valley seeking independence for the region from the rest of India, the specter of ‘Kashmir problem’ once again haunts Delhi.


Intimidation or use of brute force by the Indian state, compliant local government, corrupt political class, blanket deployment of security forces numbering over half a million – the hackneyed formula to keep control over Kashmir Valley may have exhausted its possibilities after over six decades of wear and tear. Fatigue is visible in India.

An exit strategy would mean ‘out-of-the-box’ solutions of the kind Britain found for Northern Ireland, for instance. But that would call for decentralisation and devolution of powers (which was also, by the way, the basis of the accession of the region to India at the time of independence in 1947).


However, that very thought is anathema for the Hindu fundamentalists who mentor the Modi government. The ideologues of Hindutva find it abhorrent that the Muslim-majority Kashmir Valley could ever be conceded local autonomy.

The result is that Delhi finds itself between the rock and a hard place to quell the unrest in the Kashmir Valley, which has been under curfew for over a month. There is some talk that regions of the Valley may be put under direct army rule. Delhi seems preparing for a massive crackdown.


At such a juncture, Modi government finds it expedient to stage a political drama by whipping up xenophobia and make it look as if Pakistani interference is fuelling the upheaval in the Valley – rather than the other way around.

Tirades against Pakistan help boost the sagging morale of the Hindu nationalist lobby and divert public attention away from the crisis in the Valley.

Of course, the television channels through the weekend have been dutifully conducting discourses regarding a non-issue of Baluchistan. Self-styled experts are digging into madeup Baluchistan’s past history to weigh the chances of its secession from Pakistan.

The Hindu fundamentalists visualise Modi as the Iron Man of Indian politics.

They are wedded to the belief that Modi will someday vivisect Pakistan and it will be the final nail on the coffin of the Pakistani state, opening the door for the undoing of the Partition of 1947 and the emergence of Akhant Bharat (a unified Hindu-dominated Indian subcontinent.)

All this may look to the outside world to be a bizarre notion – betwixt two nuclear powers in the second decade of the 21st century. But, make no mistake, a significant and vocal section of Modi’s starry-eyed followers anticipate Pakistan’s disintegration in all earnestness.

Evidently, Modi took to stage-acting on such a potentially explosive theme as human rights without thinking through the profound consequences. For a start, he is sadly mistaken in his estimation that this is ‘tit-for-tat’ for Pakistan’s interference in India’s internal affairs.

Kashmir is an international issue, whereas Baluchistan is on par with Chechnya or Xinjiang or Mindanao or Kurdistan – an entirely different category.

The fact of the matter is that even friendly countries like Iran or Afghanistan would have cause to worry if the genie of Baluchi sub-nationalism is let loose.


Iran in particular will feel uneasy that India is destabilizing the hugely sensitive region of Baluchistan. (Iran’s sister province of Sistan-Baluchistan is already seething with militancy and separatism.)

Pakistan has been cautioning Tehran against allowing Indian presence in Chabahar Port, which is located in Sistan-Baluchistan province. Pakistan has also been propagating that India is fostering cross-border terrorism in Baluchistan, aimed at undermining the $46 billion China-Pakistan Economic Corridor.

Modi may have unwittingly given credibility to these Pakistani allegations whose sole purpose is to malign India as a country that uses terrorism as an instrument of regional policy.

The point is, Modi’s tirade against Pakistan may only draw more international attention to the carnage in the Valley, which is after all the root cause of India-Pakistan tensions today. India’s interests lie in keeping things under wraps in the Valley.

Again, Pakistan will turn the table on India’s own abysmal human rights record. Pakistan may not have a lily-white reputation, but India too has many skeletons in the closet – such as the grotesque human rights dimensions of oppressive Hindu caste system or the alienation in the Christian-majority north-eastern regions of the country.

Suffice it to say, Modi has mounted the Baluchi tiger without the foresight that he may now come under compulsion to keep riding it. Pakistan won’t let him dismount easily, either. Pakistan will react more profoundly.

Meanwhile, India’s other tiny neighbours – Bangladesh, Bhutan, Nepal Sri Lanka and the Maldives – are watching. They will be extremely wary of the perceived hegemonic intentions of Delhi. They will increasingly look toward China as a ‘balancer’ in the region.

On the other hand, tensions are steadily increasing in the India-China relations, too. The Sino-Indian ties are set to deteriorate even further as India lurches toward the US’ rebalance strategy in Asia.

One can easily foretell that the SAARC summit due in Islamabad in November has been effectively derailed. With that, India’s leadership role in South Asia is crumbling. Modi’s regional policies face a difficult future.

So long as Modi remains in power, normalization of India-Pakistan relations is simply out of the question. The probability is that tensions may cascade, and the two nuclear powers may be risking a war at some point.

The Baluchi tiger with its rider has begun walking toward the dark and deep jungle.

Ambassador MK Bhadrakumar served as a career diplomat in the Indian Foreign Service for over 29 years, with postings including India’s ambassador to Uzbekistan (1995-1998) and to Turkey (1998-2001). He writes the “Indian Punchline” blog and has written regularly for Asia Times since 2001.

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Modi and his cabinet members are in real panic and, as a result, are exhibiting idiotic bigotry. Modi felt compelled mentioning 'human rights violations' in Pakistani province of Balochistan without realizing that, contarry to Indian Occupied J&K, Balochistan is not a disputed territory leave alone being on the UN agenda. Modi has also miserably failed to realize the Iranian sensitivities towards any insurgency in Balochistan due to its proximity with Iranian Balochistan/Sistan province. Modi's willingness - in fact, desperation - in using or abusing India's ace card (i.e. Europe based Baloch insurgent leader who posseses an Indian passport but is effectively isolated in Balochistan) is indicative of the lack of viable options available to Indians. That also indicates the strained Indian relations with Iranians, especially after the arrest of Indian terrorist Kul Bhoshan Jadev, an serving Indian Navy officer who was running a vast terrist network in Pakistan. The disgraced terrorist Commander Jadev was controlling terrorist activities using Chabahar as his base. Another extreme stupidity was exhibited by Indian defense minister a couple of days ago. That sick minded Indian minister was trying to be funny while talking about the dead bodies of four or five freedom fighters who were gunned down by Indian occupation forces. The behavior of Indian home minister during his visit to Pakistan shows similar lack of dignity as with his cabinet colleagues.

On the other hand the people of Indian Occupied J&K are determined to raise their voice against the illegal Indian occupation of their land in continued violation of UN resolutions. The freedom movement is getting stronger by the day. Brutal policies of terrorist Modi are isolating even those Kashmiri politicians who in past have supported the New Delhi's role in the occupied state. The Indian forces, on the other hand, are getting demoralized by the unabated freedom movement and illogical approach of Indian leaders.

 

[Super Falcon]

Problem for pakistan is no one has a heart to lead us but every one here interested in looting

So if tomorrow any one has this sign from Mumbai for raheel Sharif than u support it too

 

[SrNair]

It was a desperate reactionary move by GOI. GOI under Modi has become a toy in Pakistan's hands. That is why Sartaj Aziz said that Modi has just vindicated Pakistan's claim about India's export of terror inside Pakistan.

you did what we wanted you to do.



They are practically siding with Pakistan no matter what global times says.

They have categorically said that their CPEC projects would go forward as schedule no matter what you say or protest.

That is practical support for Pakistan my dear. They are our allies on Baluchistan long before Modi jee was even selling chai.



This was all act of desperation. Pakistan establishment is very much happy and satisfied with way things are going right now in IOK and India.



Money talks so much that Iran would support India in destabilizing Baluchistan that would eventually destabilize Irani Baluchistan too??

Think again my dear. And do read history of joint collaboration of Pakistan and Iran when it comes to Baluchistan.



People are using term "chai wala" as a symbol of Modi's ignorance when it comes region's history and geography.

His folly of Baluchistan is going to hurt India only and that is why people are calling him chai wala who doesn't know anything about this region.

As for that "sane" post. It comes from acute dislike for Iran and nothing else.

Whatever it is ,we have some establishments in India that have some world class talents .MEA is one of them ,
They are good in playing diplomacy like a Grandmaster in front of a Chessboard.
Their impressive works enabled us to keep a relation with three nations that is pole apart in policies .KSA,Iran and Israel.
So only in future you can see the full picture of our diplomatic change.
Why should we show desperation?
India is a major power .We have a lots of trump cards to deal any type of issues.

China wont come for you.We are already began to involved in SCS.

 

[Feroz Alam Khan]

This is what happens when a chai wala becomes a countries leader.

This is the power of DEMOCRACY.

 

[Brickwall]

People are using term "chai wala" as a symbol of Modi's ignorance when it comes region's history and geography.

His folly of Baluchistan is going to hurt India only and that is why people are calling him chai wala who doesn't know anything about this region.

As for that "sane" post. It comes from acute dislike for Iran and nothing else

You know when Country leader is doing something right, when enemy start abusing him left and right...I'm seeing this from last 3-4 days.

This proves the arrow GOI has shot , has found the target

 

[Areesh]

You know when Country leader is doing something right, when enemy start abusing him left and right...I'm seeing this from last 3-4 days.

This proves the arrow GOI has shot , has found the target

Same applies when India protests and rants about CPEC and Balochistan all of a sudden.

We are definitely doing the right thing and going the right way.

Whatever it is ,we have some establishments in India that have some world class talents .MEA is one of them ,
They are good in playing diplomacy like a Grandmaster in front of a Chessboard.
Their impressive works enabled us to keep a relation with three nations that is pole apart in policies .KSA,Iran and Israel.
So only in future you can see the full picture of our diplomatic change.
Why should we show desperation?
India is a major power .We have a lots of trump cards to deal any type of issues.

China wont come for you.We are already began to involved in SCS.

Indian MEA under Modi is a joke. Humiliation after humiliation. From NSG to UN resolutions against Masood Azhar to Kashmir. There is a long list of humiliations.

China is always our ally and supporting us in all manners right now. And that is what matters. You can keep hoping that it would abandon us. You are hoping the same for past many many years.

 

[somebozo]

Chai wala Pakistan ko pani pila rahaa hai...
He isolated Pakistan in Arab world

Where is the Indian flag???

Indians are being kicked out of govt projects in whole sale...?? so who lost..
On the flip side..market is flooded with Pakistani visas..we got 1750 of them..just three month ago getting Pakistani visa was impossible..

No Modi Jee in the panorama as well..

Same applies when India protests and rants about CPEC and Balochistan all of a sudden.

We are definitely doing the right thing and going the right way.



Indian MEA under Modi is a joke. Humiliation after humiliation. From NSG to UN resolutions against Masood Azhar to Kashmir. There is a long list of humiliations.

China is always our ally and supporting us in all manners right now. And that is what matters. You can keep hoping that it would abandon us. You are hoping the same for past many many years.

Modi is the best thing ever to happen to india..repeat after me...

Pee ker chai maro dakar
Agle bar modi sarkaar

 

[X-2.]

Seems like Indian Prime Minister Modi rant on local issue of Balochistan has left Iran, Afghanistan & Pakistan left wondering how mad Modi has become, due to especially Kashmir, and then Dalit, Moist, Sikh's Khalistan separation problems faced by India.

India’s Modi mounts the Baluchi tiger

August 16, 2016 by AT Top Writers, M.K. Bhadrakumar

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi is sadly mistaken if he thinks that he gave a ‘tit-for-tat’ for Pakistan’s interference in Kashmir affairs by raising human rights violations in Baluchistan in his Independence Day address to the nation on Aug 15. Kashmir is an international issue, whereas Baluchistan is local issue which includes Iran, Pakistan. India’s friends like Iran will have reason to worry if the genie of Baluchi sub-nationalism is let loose. It seems Modi mounted the Baluchi tiger without realizing that he may find it difficult to dismount and let go of it.

Narendra Modi earned a unique distinction this weekend as the first prime minister in India’s history to raise human rights violations in the Pakistani province of Baluchistan and Iran Sistan-Baluchistan, where a separatist insurgency has been raging for decades.

Modi feels elated that Baluchi nationalists adore him for doing that. He chose his customary Independence Day address to the nation on Monday from the ramparts of Red Fort, seat of the Muslim Mughal dynasty in Old Delhi, to stage the theatrics rich in symbolism.

However, even as Modi was espousing the cause of the Baluchis on Monday, in his home state of Gujarat, a massive public rally was held by the Dalit community – ‘untouchables’ in Hindu caste hierarchy – with the support of Muslims, protesting against persecution and social and political discrimination.


To put matters in perspective, Dalit population in India is estimated to be in the region of 200 million; Baluchis of Pakistan number around 7 million.

Indeed, human rights and Modi government make an oxymoron. Political morality should have prompted Modi to steer clear of the human rights situation in Baluchistan. So, why did he decide otherwise? The short answer is – expediency.


Modi is a past-master in diversionary tactic. At a time when an Intifada-like movement is erupting in Muslim-majority Kashmir Valley seeking independence for the region from the rest of India, the specter of ‘Kashmir problem’ once again haunts Delhi.


Intimidation or use of brute force by the Indian state, compliant local government, corrupt political class, blanket deployment of security forces numbering over half a million – the hackneyed formula to keep control over Kashmir Valley may have exhausted its possibilities after over six decades of wear and tear. Fatigue is visible in India.

An exit strategy would mean ‘out-of-the-box’ solutions of the kind Britain found for Northern Ireland, for instance. But that would call for decentralisation and devolution of powers (which was also, by the way, the basis of the accession of the region to India at the time of independence in 1947).


However, that very thought is anathema for the Hindu fundamentalists who mentor the Modi government. The ideologues of Hindutva find it abhorrent that the Muslim-majority Kashmir Valley could ever be conceded local autonomy.

The result is that Delhi finds itself between the rock and a hard place to quell the unrest in the Kashmir Valley, which has been under curfew for over a month. There is some talk that regions of the Valley may be put under direct army rule. Delhi seems preparing for a massive crackdown.


At such a juncture, Modi government finds it expedient to stage a political drama by whipping up xenophobia and make it look as if Pakistani interference is fuelling the upheaval in the Valley – rather than the other way around.

Tirades against Pakistan help boost the sagging morale of the Hindu nationalist lobby and divert public attention away from the crisis in the Valley.

Of course, the television channels through the weekend have been dutifully conducting discourses regarding a non-issue of Baluchistan. Self-styled experts are digging into madeup Baluchistan’s past history to weigh the chances of its secession from Pakistan.

The Hindu fundamentalists visualise Modi as the Iron Man of Indian politics.

They are wedded to the belief that Modi will someday vivisect Pakistan and it will be the final nail on the coffin of the Pakistani state, opening the door for the undoing of the Partition of 1947 and the emergence of Akhant Bharat (a unified Hindu-dominated Indian subcontinent.)

All this may look to the outside world to be a bizarre notion – betwixt two nuclear powers in the second decade of the 21st century. But, make no mistake, a significant and vocal section of Modi’s starry-eyed followers anticipate Pakistan’s disintegration in all earnestness.

Evidently, Modi took to stage-acting on such a potentially explosive theme as human rights without thinking through the profound consequences. For a start, he is sadly mistaken in his estimation that this is ‘tit-for-tat’ for Pakistan’s interference in India’s internal affairs.

Kashmir is an international issue, whereas Baluchistan is on par with Chechnya or Xinjiang or Mindanao or Kurdistan – an entirely different category.

The fact of the matter is that even friendly countries like Iran or Afghanistan would have cause to worry if the genie of Baluchi sub-nationalism is let loose.


Iran in particular will feel uneasy that India is destabilizing the hugely sensitive region of Baluchistan. (Iran’s sister province of Sistan-Baluchistan is already seething with militancy and separatism.)

Pakistan has been cautioning Tehran against allowing Indian presence in Chabahar Port, which is located in Sistan-Baluchistan province. Pakistan has also been propagating that India is fostering cross-border terrorism in Baluchistan, aimed at undermining the $46 billion China-Pakistan Economic Corridor.

Modi may have unwittingly given credibility to these Pakistani allegations whose sole purpose is to malign India as a country that uses terrorism as an instrument of regional policy.

The point is, Modi’s tirade against Pakistan may only draw more international attention to the carnage in the Valley, which is after all the root cause of India-Pakistan tensions today. India’s interests lie in keeping things under wraps in the Valley.

Again, Pakistan will turn the table on India’s own abysmal human rights record. Pakistan may not have a lily-white reputation, but India too has many skeletons in the closet – such as the grotesque human rights dimensions of oppressive Hindu caste system or the alienation in the Christian-majority north-eastern regions of the country.

Suffice it to say, Modi has mounted the Baluchi tiger without the foresight that he may now come under compulsion to keep riding it. Pakistan won’t let him dismount easily, either. Pakistan will react more profoundly.

Meanwhile, India’s other tiny neighbours – Bangladesh, Bhutan, Nepal Sri Lanka and the Maldives – are watching. They will be extremely wary of the perceived hegemonic intentions of Delhi. They will increasingly look toward China as a ‘balancer’ in the region.

On the other hand, tensions are steadily increasing in the India-China relations, too. The Sino-Indian ties are set to deteriorate even further as India lurches toward the US’ rebalance strategy in Asia.

One can easily foretell that the SAARC summit due in Islamabad in November has been effectively derailed. With that, India’s leadership role in South Asia is crumbling. Modi’s regional policies face a difficult future.

So long as Modi remains in power, normalization of India-Pakistan relations is simply out of the question. The probability is that tensions may cascade, and the two nuclear powers may be risking a war at some point.

The Baluchi tiger with its rider has begun walking toward the dark and deep jungle.

Ambassador MK Bhadrakumar served as a career diplomat in the Indian Foreign Service for over 29 years, with postings including India’s ambassador to Uzbekistan (1995-1998) and to Turkey (1998-2001). He writes the “Indian Punchline” blog and has written regularly for Asia Times since 2001.

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