Power of the Turkish Armed Forces ( Weapons - News and Updates )

[MMM-E]

This is the only true thing you have written on this forum.
This turkish fleet, is the main landing threat of the Greek islands, is the cause of the militarization of the Greek islands, with the most modern equipment available, such as long range artillery, armored vehicles, short and medium-range missiles, heavy infantry units, etc

All my posts are true on this forum

Turkiye has the best Anti-Tank , Howitzer , Guided MLRS , Tactical Ballistic Missile , Cruise Missile , EW technology , UCAV , Helicopter , Transport Aircraft , ASW Aircraft , Frigate fleet in the Eastern Mediterranean

also new game changer Weapons enter service in 2023

-- Type-214TN class AIP Submarine
-- ISTANBUL class stealth Frigate
-- TCG ANADOLU Amphibious Assault Ship
-- SIPER high altitude Air Defense System
-- 1.000 km KARGI anti-radiation Drone

also until 2025
KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet
TAI unmanned stealth Fighter Jet
HURJET light attack Jet
T-929 ATAK-II heavy Attack Helicopter
HAVASOJ stand off Jammer Aircraft
1.000 km GEZGIN strategic Cruise Missile
RAMJET powered GOKHAN long range Air to Air Missile
HISAR class OPV

and Turkiye to buy F-16V or Eurofighter



and stop lying
Greece arming Islands since 1960s when Turkiye had zero Amphibious Warfare Ship in 1960s

 

[MMM-E]

If Greece had not developed strong anti-amphibious forces, then Turkey, as a known predator of the region, would have used this fleet to occupy the Greek islands.
This fleet was used in the attack against Cyprus, at first the Turks said it was an exercise, but in the end it was a landing.

İf Turkiye want , Nothing can stop the Turkish Armed Forces to re-take our Islands which are 2-10-30 km away from Turkish mainland

Greece illegally arming Islands since 1960s and when true time comes everybody will see what will happen as like in 1974

 

[Akritas]

Greece arming Islands since 1960s when Turkiye had zero Amphibious Warfare Ship in 1960s

You are a lier....
Ex-US LCU-501 class......Ç-201- Ç-204 Turkish class.....in 1960s......4 boats
Ex-French EDIC type class......Ç-107 - Ç-138 Turkish class.....in 1960s.....21 boats
Ex-British LCT Mk IV type......Ç-101 - Ç-106 Turkish class.....in 196os........5 boats

source: Robert Gardiner, Conway's All the World's Fighting Ships 1947-1995, edition 1995, page 474-479.

 

[MMM-E]

You are a lier....
Ex-US LCU-501 class......Ç-201- Ç-204 Turkish class.....in 1960s......4 boats
Ex-French EDIC type class......Ç-107 - Ç-138 Turkish class.....in 1960s.....21 boats
Ex-British LCT Mk IV type......Ç-101 - Ç-106 Turkish class.....in 196os........5 boats

source: Robert Gardiner, Conway's All the World's Fighting Ships 1947-1995, edition 1995, page 474-479.

You are real liar

I am talking about Amphibious Warfare Ship LCT ,LST , LHD
and you are talking about small Boats ( Ex-US LCU and Ex British LCT from 1940s ) which were bought between 1962 and 1968

Outdated Ex-US LCU which can not carry even Tank

in 1964 Turkiye could not start a military operation to save Turkish Cypriots , because Turkish Navy had zero Amphibious Warfare Ship

even USA and UK said that Turkiye can not use our ex LCU Boats to operate in Cyprus


and between 1967 and 1974 Turkiye produced 43 C-128 modern LCT to use in the Cyprus Peace Operation

btw even Greece arming Islands since 1950s when Turkiye had zero Amphibious Warfare Ship in 1950s

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[Foinikas]

so in a conflict , enemy Fighter Jets can not even enter Turkish EEZ

Eastern Mediterranean is Turkiye's play zone

You've used the same line dozens of times. It's boring.

İf Turkiye want , Nothing can stop the Turkish Armed Forces to re-take our Islands which are 2-10-30 km away from Turkish mainland

What do you mean "your" islands?

You relinquished any right to those islands after the Treaties of Lausanne.

Greece illegally arming Islands since 1960s and when true time comes everybody will see what will happen as like in 1974

How many times do you need to read it to put it in your thick head?

 

[manpk77]

Bayraktar TB-2 UCAVs are intended to be used as close air support to destroy hundreds of Tanks,

Drones are used for close air support only what is so new in it?

 

[MMM-E]

What do you mean "your" islands?

You relinquished any right to those islands after the Treaties of Lausanne.

even 3/4 of Crete is belong to Turkiye by agreements

After the Turkish victory of Independence war, the Treaty of Lausanne was signed on July 24, 1923. It has been confirmed by a total of 8 states, including Turkiye, Greece and the United Kingdom, that only a quarter of the island of Crete belongs to Greece.

14 islands and islets around Crete also belong to Turkiye


not YENISAFAK but anti-Erdogan newspaper SOZCU

Girit Adası’nın dörtte üçü Türkiye’ye aittir

Ege’deki adalarımızın işgalini sık sık gündeme getiren Yalım, Girit Adası’nın dörtte üçünün, çevresindeki 14 ada ve adacığın da Türkiye’ye ait olduğunu öne sürdü...

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Nowhere in the Treaty of London 1913 is there a statement that the Island of Crete was abandoned, given or bound to Greece.

And the Treaty of Lausanne was signed in 1923. that only a quarter of the island of Crete belongs to Greece

14 islands and islets around Crete also belong to Turkiye


Traitor Politicans did nothing since 1936 when Greece illegally increased territorial water to 6nm from 3nm

and not ERDOGAN but Our Admirals created MAVI VATAN Doctrine

 

[Foinikas]

even 3/4 of Crete is belong to Turkiye by agreements

After the Turkish victory of Independence war, the Treaty of Lausanne was signed on July 24, 1923. It has been confirmed by a total of 8 states, including Turkiye, Greece and the United Kingdom, that only a quarter of the island of Crete belongs to Greece.

14 islands and islets around Crete also belong to Turkiye


not YENISAFAK but anti-Erdogan newspaper SOZCU

@Akritas The Comedy Club has started again...

Ok MMM-E...here you go:

His Majesty the Emperor of the Ottomans declares that he cedes to their Majesties the Allied Sovereigns the island of Crete and that he renounces in their favour all rights of sovereignty and all other rights which he possessed in that island.

Treaty of London (1913) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And the Treaty of Lausanne was signed in 1923. that only a quarter of the island of Crete belongs to Greece

There's no mention of Crete in the Treaty of Lausanne. Stop reading obscure Turkish ultranationalist authors and newspapers.

Traitor Politicans did nothing since 1936 when Greece illegally increased territorial water to 6nm from 3nm

Greece never did anything illegally. Greece has the right to expand the naval waters to 12 nm according to UNCLOS,however we haven't done that.

 

[MMM-E]

His Majesty the Emperor of the Ottomans declares that he cedes to their Majesties the Allied Sovereigns the island of Crete and that he renounces in their favour all rights of sovereignty and all other rights which he possessed in that island.

There's no mention of Crete in the Treaty of Lausanne. Stop reading obscure Turkish ultranationalist authors and newspapers.

They are Admirals , not ultranationalist authors or newspapers.


Treaty of London 1913

The Island of Crete was given to the Allied Powers (Greece, Bulgaria, Montenegro, Serbia) by Article 4 of the 1913 Treaty of London

According to the treaty, 4 states have shared ownership on the island of Crete. Greece does not have sole proprietorship on the island of Crete.

With the 1913 Treaty of London, a quarter of the island of Crete was given to Greece. Only a quarter of the island of Crete belongs to Greece. The 14 islands, islets and rocks around the island of Crete remained under the rule of the Ottoman Empire.


Treaty of Bucharest 1913

With the 1913 Treaty of Bucharest, Bulgaria renounced its right to a quarter on the Island of Crete

Since no waiver was made in favor of Greece, Bulgaria's one-fourth share of the island of Crete was restored. In other words, the aforementioned share returned to the Ottoman Empire


Treaty of Athens 1913

After the Treaty of Bucharest, the Treaty of Athens was signed between the Ottoman Empire and Greece on 14 November 1913

With this treaty, it was confirmed once again that one-fourth of the island of Crete belongs to Greece.


Treaty of Lausanne 1923

After the War of Independence was won by the Turks
The Treaty of Lausanne was signed on July 24, 1923 between Turkiye and England, France, Italy, Japan, Greece, Romania and the Serbo-Croatian-Slovenian State

With the 12th article of the 1923 Treaty of Lausanne, it was confirmed by the 8 countries that were party to the treaty that the 15th article of the Athens Treaty of 1-14 November 1913 would be applied

With the aforementioned confirmation, it was recorded that the London Agreement of 30 May 1913 would be implemented. With the 1913 Treaty of London, a quarter of the island of Crete was given to Greece.


Serbia and Montenegro de facto renounced their right to a quarter on the island of Crete after the Treaty of Lausanne. The waiver made by Bulgaria, Serbia and Montenegro was not made in favor of Greece.


Since no renunciation was made in favor of Greece, the three-quarters share of Bulgaria, Serbia and Montenegro on the Island of Crete became Turkish territory as a recourse.

 

[Foinikas]

They are Admirals , not ultranationalist authors or newspapers.


Treaty of London 1913

The Island of Crete was given to the Allied Powers (Greece, Bulgaria, Montenegro, Serbia) by Article 4 of the 1913 Treaty of London

According to the treaty, 4 states have shared ownership on the island of Crete. Greece does not have sole proprietorship on the island of Crete.

With the 1913 Treaty of London, a quarter of the island of Crete was given to Greece. Only a quarter of the island of Crete belongs to Greece. The 14 islands, islets and rocks around the island of Crete remained under the rule of the Ottoman Empire.


Treaty of Bucharest 1913

With the 1913 Treaty of Bucharest, Bulgaria renounced its right to a quarter on the Island of Crete

Since no waiver was made in favor of Greece, Bulgaria's one-fourth share of the island of Crete was restored. In other words, the aforementioned share returned to the Ottoman Empire


Treaty of Athens 1913

After the Treaty of Bucharest, the Treaty of Athens was signed between the Ottoman Empire and Greece on 14 November 1913

With this treaty, it was confirmed once again that one-fourth of the island of Crete belongs to Greece.


Treaty of Lausanne 1923

After the War of Independence was won by the Turks
The Treaty of Lausanne was signed on July 24, 1923 between Turkiye and England, France, Italy, Japan, Greece, Romania and the Serbo-Croatian-Slovenian State

With the 12th article of the 1923 Treaty of Lausanne, it was confirmed by the 8 countries that were party to the treaty that the 15th article of the Athens Treaty of 1-14 November 1913 would be applied

With the aforementioned confirmation, it was recorded that the London Agreement of 30 May 1913 would be implemented. With the 1913 Treaty of London, a quarter of the island of Crete was given to Greece.


Serbia and Montenegro de facto renounced their right to a quarter on the island of Crete after the Treaty of Lausanne. The waiver made by Bulgaria, Serbia and Montenegro was not made in favor of Greece.


Since no renunciation was made in favor of Greece, the three-quarters share of Bulgaria, Serbia and Montenegro on the Island of Crete became Turkish territory as a recourse.

What's the source of that trash that you're mentioning?

 

[MMM-E]

Greece never did anything illegally. Greece has the right to expand the naval waters to 12 nm according to UNCLOS,however we haven't done that.

UNCLOS is shit .. USA,İsrael,Turkiye and many more Countries did not sign 1982 UNCLOS

UNCLOS is nothing to do with the status in the Aegean
and we dont care about 1982 UNCLOS

Turks won the last war
and 1923 Lausanne Peace Treaty established a delicate balance between Türkiye and Greece by harmonizing the vital interests and legitimate rights of both countries in the Aegean Sea

However, Greece has been tilting the Lausanne balance through unilateral acts to the detriment of Türkiye's vital interests since 1930's.


in 1936 Greece illegally increased territorial water to 6nm from 3nm

in 1990s Greece tried to increase territorial water to 12nm from 6nm
and in 1995 Turkiye declared war ( CASUS BELLI )

without war , nobody can change delicate balance between Türkiye and Greece in the Aegean which established by 1923 Lausanne Peace Treaty

What's the source of that trash that you're mentioning?

Treaty of London 1913
Treaty of Bucharest 1913
Treaty of Athens 1913
Treaty of Lausanne 1923

 

[Foinikas]

UNCLOS is shit .. USA,İsrael,Turkiye and many more Countries did not sign 1982 UNCLOS

UNCLOS is nothing to do with the status in the Aegean
and we dont care about 1982 UNCLOS

USA has signed UNCLOS but hasn't ratified it,due to political debates inside the country. However,USA supports UNCLOS.

You are in the minority.

Even Israel has delineated its EEZ with its neighbors peacefully.

urks won the last war
and 1923 Lausanne Peace Treaty established a delicate balance between Türkiye and Greece by harmonizing the vital interests and legitimate rights of both countries in the Aegean Sea

Since you have run out of arguements once again,you return to mention some "delicate balance". However,this too is as invalid as your previous arguements. Turkey is a big and stronger State. Claiming more EEZ,the Greek islands and even Crete,would mean that you're the ones trying to destroyed the supposed "delicate balance" that you mention.

in 1936 Greece illegally increased territorial water to 6nm from 3nm

in 1990s Greece tried to increase territorial water to 12nm from 6nm
and in 1995 Turkiye declared war ( CASUS BELLI )

Greece hasn't done anything illegally. Everything is according to Treaties and Agreements. Turkey,on the other hand,hasn't signed UNCLOS,hasn't tried to resolve the EEZ delineation in a peaceful way and has violated the Lausanne Treaty by destroying the Greek communities of Imbros and Tenedos.

Treaty of London 1913
Treaty of Bucharest 1913
Treaty of Athens 1913
Treaty of Lausanne 1923

The source where you c/ped what you posted in that post. Must be some turkish admiral's site or Yeni Safak or TRT.

 

[MMM-E]

USA has signed UNCLOS but hasn't ratified it,due to political debates inside the country. However,USA supports UNCLOS.

The United States of America has neither signed nor ratified UNCLOS.
While the legal framework on Part XI was amended in 1994 by an agreement that the United States signed, to date the United States has neither signed nor ratified the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea.

The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS)

Learn about the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), who’s ratified it, how many countries are bound by it, and who still hasn’t signed on.

www.curtis.com

Even Israel has delineated its EEZ with its neighbors peacefully.

Turkiye also has delineated its EEZ with its neighbors peacefully in the Black Sea

Greece is dreaming with trash Seville Map which has no any value

Greece hasn't done anything illegally. Everything is according to Treaties and Agreements.

1923 Lausanne Peace Treaty established a delicate balance between Türkiye and Greece by harmonizing the vital interests and legitimate rights of both countries in the Aegean Sea
( 3nm territorial water for both countries )

but in 1936 , Greece illegally increased territorial water to 6nm from 3nm

and we dont care about 1982 UNCLOS

The source where you c/ped what you posted in that post. Must be some turkish admiral's site or Yeni Safak or TRT.

Stfu with your trash posts YENISAFAK or TRT

Our source = international agreements .. go and read
Treaty of London 1913
Treaty of Bucharest 1913
Treaty of Athens 1913
Treaty of Lausanne 1923

 

[Foinikas]

Turkiye also has delineated its EEZ with its neighbors peacefully in the Black Sea

Hehehe...

Stfu with your trash posts YENISAFAK or TRT

Our source = international agreements .. go and read
Treaty of London 1913
Treaty of Bucharest 1913
Treaty of Athens 1913
Treaty of Lausanne 1923

I don't know where you find those "Treaties",but the REAL Treaty of Lausanne makes no mention of Crete.

Treaty of Lausanne - World War I Document Archive

wwi.lib.byu.edu

As I showed you earlier,the Treaty of London mentions the Sultan relinquishing all rights from the island.

3nm territorial water for both countries )

What the Treaty of Lausanne says is that everything 3 nm from the Turkish coast belongs to Turkey,unless stated otherwise.

but in 1936 , Greece illegally increased territorial water to 6nm from 3nm

Territorial waters give the littoral state full control over air navigation in the airspace above, and partial control over shipping, although foreign ships (both civil and military) are normally guaranteed innocent passage through them. The standard width of territorial waters that countries are customarily entitled to has steadily increased in the course of the 20th century: from initially 3 nautical miles (5.6 km) at the beginning of the century, to 6 nautical miles (11 km), and currently 12 nautical miles (22 km). The current value has been enshrined in treaty law by the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea of 1982 (Art.3). In the Aegean, the territorial waters claimed by both sides are still at 6 miles. The possibility of an extension to 12 miles has fuelled Turkish concerns over a possible disproportionate increase in Greek-controlled space. Turkey has refused to become a member of the convention and does not consider itself bound by it. Turkey considers the convention as res inter alios acta, i.e. a treaty that can only be binding to the signing parties but not to others. Greece, which is a party to the convention, has stated that it reserves the right to apply this rule and extend its waters to 12 miles at some point in the future in the Aegean Sea (it has already done so in the Ionian Sea to the west). Greece holds that the 12-mile rule is not only treaty law but also customary law, as per the wide consensus established among the international community. Against this, Turkey argues that the special geographical properties of the Aegean Sea make a strict application of the 12-mile rule in this case illicit in the interest of equity.[2] Turkey has itself applied the customary 12-mile limit to its coasts outside the Aegean.

Greece is dreaming with trash Seville Map which has no any value

The Seville Map only shows the Greek EEZ according to UNCLOS. For Turkey,it has no value because Turkey does not recognise UNCLOS. However,the EU maps also portray the Greek EEZ as legal.

Basically,the only one not recognizing the Greek EEZ is Turkey.

 

[MMM-E]

The Seville Map only shows the Greek EEZ according to UNCLOS. For Turkey,it has no value because Turkey does not recognise UNCLOS. However,the EU maps also portray the Greek EEZ as legal.

even UNCLOS doesnt give right Islands to generate EEZ while Greece is not archipelagic state

so keep dreaming with trash Seville Map

and your other posts are full of trash as like Greek dreams