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[Foinikas]

I gave you source .. go and read international agreements

Treaty of London 1913
Treaty of Bucharest 1913
Treaty of Athens 1913
Treaty of Lausanne 1923

Our Admirals are not living in fantasy world ... Fantasy world and wet dreams are belong to Greeks

No,you didn't give me the source. You didn't even use the Treaties. What you did was c/p a text by someone who claims the Treaties say this and this.

If you check the original Treaty of Lausanne for example,there is no mention of Crete.

So I'll ask you again,where did you get that text that says all that bull?

 

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No,you didn't give me the source. You didn't even use the Treaties. What you did was c/p a text by someone who claims the Treaties say this and this.

If you check the original Treaty of Lausanne for example,there is no mention of Crete.

So I'll ask you again,where did you get that text that says all that bull?

Our Admirals are not someone

With the Treaty of Lausanne 1923, the continuation of Article 15 of the Treaty of Athens 1913 was confirmed by the countries that were party to the treaty.


And Serbia and Montenegro de facto renounced their right to a quarter on the island of Crete after the Treaty of Lausanne. Since no waiver was made in favor of Greece, the three-quarters share of the countries on the island became Turkish territory as a recourse

According to international treaties that determine the legal status of the Island of Crete, three quarters of the Island of Crete and 14 islands ,islets and rocks,around Crete belong to the Republic of Turkiye as the total successor of the Ottoman Empire.

Unfortunately, the Politicians left the island of Crete to Greece.

 

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[Foinikas]

Our Admirals are not someone

With the Treaty of Lausanne 1923, the continuation of Article 15 of the Treaty of Athens 1913 was confirmed by the countries that were party to the treaty.


And Serbia and Montenegro de facto renounced their right to a quarter on the island of Crete after the Treaty of Lausanne. Since no waiver was made in favor of Greece, the three-quarters share of the countries on the island became Turkish territory as a recourse

According to international treaties that determine the legal status of the Island of Crete, three quarters of the Island of Crete and 14 islands ,islets and rocks,around Crete belong to the Republic of Turkiye as the total successor of the Ottoman Empire.

Unfortunately, the Politicians left the island of Crete to Greece.

So basically,you took an Admiral's nationalistic nonsense and posted it as evidence. They should go read the Treaties again. Maybe you should read them too. The Treaty of London mentions clearly that the Sultan relinquishes all claims to the island. That's what happened with Crete. It had nothing to do with the Balkan allies and later wars. Crete rejoined Greece and the Sultan gave up his rights in the island.

 

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So basically,you took an Admiral's nationalistic nonsense and posted it as evidence. They should go read the Treaties again. Maybe you should read them too. The Treaty of London mentions clearly that the Sultan relinquishes all claims to the island. That's what happened with Crete. It had nothing to do with the Balkan allies and later wars. Crete rejoined Greece and the Sultan gave up his rights in the island.

You should go read the Treaties again

The Island of Crete was given to the Allied Powers (Greece, Bulgaria, Montenegro, Serbia) by Article 4 of the 1913 Treaty of London

4 states have shared ownership on the island of Crete. Greece does not have sole proprietorship on the island of Crete... ( a quarter of the island of Crete was given to Greece. )

The 14 islands, islets and rocks around the island of Crete remained under the rule of the Ottoman Empire.

in 1913 Bulgaria and after 1923 Montenegro, Serbia renounced their right to a quarter on the Island of Crete

The waiver made by Bulgaria, Serbia and Montenegro was not made in favor of Greece.
and the three-quarters share of Bulgaria, Serbia and Montenegro on the Island of Crete became Turkish territory as a recourse

but the Politicians left the island of Crete to Greece.

 

[Foinikas]

You should go read the Treaties again

The Island of Crete was given to the Allied Powers (Greece, Bulgaria, Montenegro, Serbia) by Article 4 of the 1913 Treaty of London

4 states have shared ownership on the island of Crete. Greece does not have sole proprietorship on the island of Crete... ( a quarter of the island of Crete was given to Greece. )

The 14 islands, islets and rocks around the island of Crete remained under the rule of the Ottoman Empire.

in 1913 Bulgaria and after 1923 Montenegro, Serbia renounced their right to a quarter on the Island of Crete

The waiver made by Bulgaria, Serbia and Montenegro was not made in favor of Greece.
and the three-quarters share of Bulgaria, Serbia and Montenegro on the Island of Crete became Turkish territory as a recourse.

You still AVOID giving me the source of where you are getting this trash. Why?

Treaty of London 1913,Article 4:

IV.

His Majesty the Emperor of the Ottomans declares that he cedes to their Majesties the Allied Sovereigns the island of Crete and that he renounces in their favour all rights of sovereignty and all other rights which he possessed in that island.


Stop reading Turkish former Admirals and obscure ultranationalist authors. They only make you look more ignorant.


Treaty of Bucharest 1913:

Stop spreading fake news and believing the nonsense your propagandists are saying.

Enough with this fiction.

 

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IV.

His Majesty the Emperor of the Ottomans declares that he cedes to their Majesties the Allied Sovereigns the island of Crete and that he renounces in their favour all rights of sovereignty and all other rights which he possessed in that island.


Stop reading Turkish former Admirals and obscure ultranationalist authors. They only make you look more ignorant.

its so clear by Agreements still wth are you trolling

Peace Treaty between Greece, Bulgaria, Serbia, Montenegro and the Ottoman Empire

and The Island of Crete was given to the Allied Powers (Greece, Bulgaria, Montenegro, Serbia)

4 states have shared ownership on the island of Crete. Greece does not have sole proprietorship on the island of Crete... ( a quarter of the island of Crete was given to Greece. )


read again
His Majesty the Emperor of the Ottomans declares that he cedes to their Majesties the Allied Sovereigns the island of Crete and that he renounces in their favour all rights of sovereignty and all other rights which he possessed in that island.

not only Greece , but allied powers

stop terrorize my thread ... I back to the topic

 

[Foinikas]

its so clear by Agreements still wth are you trolling

Peace Treaty between Greece, Bulgaria, Serbia, Montenegro and the Ottoman Empire

and The Island of Crete was given to the Allied Powers (Greece, Bulgaria, Montenegro, Serbia)

4 states have shared ownership on the island of Crete. Greece does not have sole proprietorship on the island of Crete... ( a quarter of the island of Crete was given to Greece. )


read again
His Majesty the Emperor of the Ottomans declares that he cedes to their Majesties the Allied Sovereigns the island of Crete and that he renounces in their favour all rights of sovereignty and all other rights which he possessed in that island.

not only Greece , but allied powers

stop terrorize my thread ... I back to the topic

Are you kidding me? I just QUOTED YOU THE TREATY!

THERE'S NO MENTION OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IN THE TREATIES.

First of all,the Allied Powers were not Bulgaria,Montenegro and Serbia. We're talking about "POWERS". That means Great Britain,France,Germany,Austro-Hungary and Russia.

Second,Crete's independence was given to Greece,its right to unite with Greece was acknowledged by them and with the Treaty of Bucharest,like I showed you,it was affirmed that Crete was given to Greece.

All the rest are just imaginations of you and your Turkish nationalists who are trying to find a glimpse of legality in their fiction,but fail.

This is the entire Treaty of London 1913:

TREATY OF LONDON

London, May 17/ May 30, 1913

Peace Treaty between Greece, Bulgaria, Serbia, Montenegro and the Ottoman Empire[1]

I.

Upon the exchange of ratifications of the present treaty there shall be peace and friendship between His Majesty and Emperor of the Ottomans, on the one part, and their Majesties, the Allied Sovereigns, on the other part, as well as between their heirs and successors, their respective States and subjects in perpetuity.

II.

His Majesty the Emperor of the Ottomans cedes to their Majesties the Allied Sovereigns all the territories of his Empire on the continent of Europe to the west of a line drawn from Enos on the Aegean Sea to Midia on the Black Sea, with the exception of Albania.

The exact line of the frontier from Enos to Midia shall be determined by an international commission.

III.

His Majesty the Emperor of the Ottomans and their Majesties the Allied Sovereigns declare that they remit to His Majesty the Emperor of Germany; His Majesty the Emperor of Austria, King of Hungary; the President of the French Republic; His Majesty the King of Great Britain and Ireland, Emperor of India; His Majesty the King of Italy; and His Majesty the Emperor of All the Russias the matter of arranging the delimitation of the frontiers of Albania and all other questions concerning Albania.

IV.

His Majesty the Emperor of the Ottomans declares that he cedes to their Majesties the Allied Sovereigns the island of Crete and that he renounces in their favour all rights of sovereignty and all other rights which he possessed in that island.

V.

His Majesty the Emperor of the Ottomans and their Majesties the Allied Sovereigns declare that they entrust to His Majesty the Emperor of Germany; His Majesty the Emperor of Austria, King of Hungary; the President of the French Republic; His Majesty the King of Great Britain and Ireland, Emperor of India; His Majesty the King of Italy; His Majesty the Emperor of All the Russias the task of determining the title to all the Ottoman islands in the Aegean Sea (except the island of Crete) and to the peninsula of Mount Athos.

VI.

His Majesty the Emperor of the Ottomans and their Majesties the Allied Sovereigns declare that they refer the matter of settling questions of a financial nature resulting from the war which is ended and from the above-mentioned cessions of territory to the International Commission convened at Paris, to which they have deputed their representatives.

VII.

Questions concerning prisoners of war, questions of jurisdiction, of nationality, and of commerce shall be settled by special conventions.

(Here follow signatures and seals.)

 

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250 km ATMACA Coastal Defense Missiles to block all Aegean



Greece buys 3+1 BELHARRA Frigates which never will can survive in the Aegean


250 km ATMACA Coastal Defense Missile join the Turkish Armed Forces for anti-ship role

-- SOM-C air launched anti-ship Missile
-- ATMACA Coastal Defense Missile
-- CAKIR anti-ship Missile
-- TRLG-230 laser guided supersonic Missile
-- KUZGUN-TJ IIR guided Missile

 

[Foinikas]

250 km ATMACA Coastal Defense Missiles to block all Aegean



Greece buys 3+1 BELHARRA Frigates which never will can survive in the Aegean

Again you are comparing the POWER OF THE TURKISH ARMED FORCES WEAPONS with "tiny Greece".

You keep saying that your enemy is France,Russia,Egypt even USA. But you insist on mentioning Greece. You could have easily named a stronger country in the area. Your posts are like flamebait. Are you provoking intentionally?

 

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First of all,the Allied Powers were not Bulgaria,Montenegro and Serbia. We're talking about "POWERS". That means Great Britain,France,Germany,Austro-Hungary and Russia.

Allied Powers = Greece, Bulgaria, Serbia, Montenegro which fought against the Ottoman Empire in the First Balkan War

It dealt with the territorial adjustments arising out of the conclusion of the First Balkan War

All European territory of the Ottoman Empire west of the line between Enos on the Aegean Sea and Midia on the Black Sea was ceded to the Balkan League ( Greece, Bulgaria, Serbia, Montenegro )

Second,Crete's independence was given to Greece,its right to unite with Greece was acknowledged by them and with the Treaty of Bucharest,like I showed you,it was affirmed that Crete was given to Greece.

What article is this written in? Nowhere

We will re-take our Islands which were given to Greece by Italy

even after 2004 Greece occupied our 16 Islands
( Hurşit, Fornoz, Eşek, Nergizçik, Bulamaç, Kalolimnoz, Keçi, Sakarcılar, Koçbaba and Ardacık islands in the Aegean and Gavdos, Dhia, Dionisades, Gaidhouronisi and Koufonisi islands in the Mediterranean.

AK Party government turned a blind eye to the Greek capture of the islands to get an approval in the European Union negotiations

 

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Again you are comparing the POWER OF THE TURKISH ARMED FORCES WEAPONS with "tiny Greece".

You keep saying that your enemy is France,Russia,Egypt even USA. But you insist on mentioning Greece. You could have easily named a stronger country in the area. Your posts are like flamebait. Are you provoking intentionally?

not Egypt , not Russia
but tiny Greece is dreaming about fighting Turkiye and I show what about tiny Greece

and USA-France use Greece , PKK/YPG , HAFTAR as a pawn against Turkiye


3+1 BELHARRA Frigates which never will can survive in the Aegean
waste money as like Turkish MOD Hulusi Akar said

 

[Akritas]

The official map of Lausanne, that map that Turkish politicians and admirals forget to mention. They forget, because they brainwash the Turkish people ti where are the borders of Turkey, and why all the islands, beyond 3 n.m. , like Imbros and Tenedos, are not Turkish.

 

[Foinikas]

Allied Powers = Greece, Bulgaria, Serbia, Montenegro which fought against the Ottoman Empire in the First Balkan War

Allied Sovereigns and Allied Powers. In any case,if you read the Treaty,it does not give parts of Crete to either Serbia,Bulgaria nor Montenegro.

Article 5

V.

His Majesty the Emperor of the Ottomans and their Majesties the Allied Sovereigns declare that they entrust to His Majesty the Emperor of Germany; His Majesty the Emperor of Austria, King of Hungary; the President of the French Republic; His Majesty the King of Great Britain and Ireland, Emperor of India; His Majesty the King of Italy; His Majesty the Emperor of All the Russias the task of determining the title to all the Ottoman islands in the Aegean Sea (except the island of Crete) and to the peninsula of Mount Athos.

Which means the the Great Powers mentioned above,are to decide about the Aegean Islands,who gets what,except Crete,which was already in union with Greece informally.

What article is this written in? Nowhere

In which article were all the fake news that you kept writing in posts above,mentioned? Nowhere. There's no mention of all that nonsense in any of the articles.

Read a bit about the Cretan independence and union with Greece and you'll understand.

We will re-take our Islands which were given to Greece by Italy

That does not concern you. You gave the islands to Italy. What Italy does with the islands is not your concern anymore.

even after 2004 Greece occupied our 16 Islands
( Hurşit, Fornoz, Eşek, Nergizçik, Bulamaç, Kalolimnoz, Keçi, Sakarcılar, Koçbaba and Ardacık islands in the Aegean and Gavdos, Dhia, Dionisades, Gaidhouronisi and Koufonisi islands in the Mediterranean.

Explain how we "occupied" some 16 islands. All islands that are under Greek sovereignty,are legally ours. The Treaty of Lausanne and the subsequent Treaties that replaced it,mention that Turkey only controls islands that are up to 3 nm from the Turkish coast,unless specified (as given to Greece).

AK Party government turned a blind eye to the Greek capture of the islands to get an approval in the European Union negotiations

WHAT capture of the islands? What are you saying?

 

[Foinikas]

not Egypt , not Russia
but tiny Greece is dreaming about fighting Turkiye and I show what about tiny Greece

First things first:

Greece has no intention of starting a war with Turkey.

Greece is not the one having the President,Minister of Defence,Minister of Foreign Affairs,Vice President,The President's Spokesman and various MPs using threats every day,such us:

"Demilitarize the islands or their sovereignity is disputed"

"We will come one night,suddenly"

"If Cyprus drills,we will take action"

"We will throw you to the sea,just like your ancestors"

"Remember what happened 100 years ago!"

"Athens is in Taifun's range"

3+1 BELHARRA Frigates which never will can survive in the Aegean
waste money as like Turkish MOD Hulusi Akar said

Will Hulusi Akar buy us ships then? Will he modernize our Armed Forces and upgrade our equipment?

If he cares about Yunanistan so much,then he should stop his rhetoric and reduce the arms race in Turkey.

Everything else,is just propaganda for the Turkish people to forget the 100% inflation rate.