Point Of View with ArzooKazmi : An Indian Muslim's stance on Ayodhya

[Rakesh]

BS. You are talking with no knowledge.

Anyone who passes the courses required can become a priest in the temple.

There are thousands of non-Brahmin priests including Muslim priests all over India.

Muslim priests at 900-yr-old Shiva temple in Kashmir

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...iva-temple-in-Kashmir/articleshow/4751800.cms

Jodhpur : Temple head priest a Muslim

More SC/ST members to become priests in Kerala

• Quota system to be followed
  M. Rajagopalan Nair, chairman, KDRB of the Board, said the 32 per cent caste reservation policy would be strictly followed in the appointment and as many as 10 priests belonging to SC/ST communities and 50 OBC community members would get the appointment in temples in the next turn.
  
  There were over 150 vacancies of priests in temples of Kochi Devaswom Board and another 30 in Guruvayur Devaswom and the reservation policy would be applied here, he said.
  
  The recruitment of six youths, who belonged to the earlier socially outcast communities, had kicked up a storm in the social sector of the State as their forefathers were even denied the right to walk through the public roads and worship in temples.
  
  The six Dalits who have been selected include P.R. Yadukrishna, a Pulaya community member, P.S. Sumesh, G. Jeevan, and M.K. Pradeepkumar (Pulaya) and P.C. Manoj (Vettuva).
  

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/kerala/kerala/article19823697.ece

First batch of SC-ST priests ready to take charge at Tirupati temples

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...-at-tirupati-temples/articleshow/61962754.cms


Ram Temple will have SC/ST priests: Hindu Mahasabha chief

https://www.aninews.in/news/nationa...-priests-hindu-mahasabha-chief20191002000340/

Good start. And how many SC/ST priests were present during foundation laying ceremony of Ram Temple ?

https://theprint.in/opinion/what-ab...ommunist-intellectuals-wont-demand-it/476475/

The Ram Mandir bhoomi pujan in Ayodhya Wednesday was attended by Prime Minister Narendra Modi, RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat, Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Yogi Adityanath, and governor Anandiben Patel. Besides being the only woman on the stage, Patel was also the only Shudra present at the ceremony. Among the priests who performed the bhoomi pujan ritual, there was not a single Shudra — not even from Yadav, Jat, or Kurmi communities of UP, let alone from one of the Other Backward Classes and Dalits.

 

[Smarana Mitra]

Hinduism considers all people as Hindus. It is the individual's prerogative what to believe and follow. Hinduism does not mandate.

Don't talk about things you don't understand. You are not intelligent enough to understand Dharma. Dharma is meant for the wise and intelligent. It is complex and can't be understood by everyone. Don't act like a representative of dharma and go around speaking anything.

 

[Smarana Mitra]

Good start. And how many SC/ST priests were present during foundation laying ceremony of Ram Temple ?

https://theprint.in/opinion/what-ab...ommunist-intellectuals-wont-demand-it/476475/

The Ram Mandir bhoomi pujan in Ayodhya Wednesday was attended by Prime Minister Narendra Modi, RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat, Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Yogi Adityanath, and governor Anandiben Patel. Besides being the only woman on the stage, Patel was also the only Shudra present at the ceremony. Among the priests who performed the bhoomi pujan ritual, there was not a single Shudra — not even from Yadav, Jat, or Kurmi communities of UP, let alone from one of the Other Backward Classes and Dalits.

Why would you get a SC/ST priest? Priest attending Ram Janmabhoomi must be someone who has following of large number of people and popular. Asking to select priests on caste basis is foolish to say the least

 

[xeuss]

Good start. And how many SC/ST priests were present during foundation laying ceremony of Ram Temple ?

https://theprint.in/opinion/what-ab...ommunist-intellectuals-wont-demand-it/476475/

The Ram Mandir bhoomi pujan in Ayodhya Wednesday was attended by Prime Minister Narendra Modi, RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat, Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Yogi Adityanath, and governor Anandiben Patel. Besides being the only woman on the stage, Patel was also the only Shudra present at the ceremony. Among the priests who performed the bhoomi pujan ritual, there was not a single Shudra — not even from Yadav, Jat, or Kurmi communities of UP, let alone from one of the Other Backward Classes and Dalits.

The President of India, a lower caste, was also not invited.

 

[xeuss]

Don't talk about things you don't understand. You are not intelligent enough to understand Dharma. Dharma is meant for the wise and intelligent. It is complex and can't be understood by everyone. Don't act like a representative of dharma and go around speaking anything.

First time I am hearing that Dharma is only for wise and intelligent people. Let me guess....only Brahmins are wise and intelligent?

 

[Smarana Mitra]

First time I am hearing that Dharma is only for wise and intelligent people. Let me guess....only Brahmins are wise and intelligent?

It is the other way around. Only the wise and intelligent people were chosen to be Brahmans and to lead dharma. Intelligent but not wise people and wise but unintelligent people were given other positions, Ones who were neither intelligent nor wise are shudras to do menial labur.

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

Why would you get a SC/ST priest? Priest attending Ram Janmabhoomi must be someone who has following of large number of people and popular. Asking to select priests on caste basis is foolish to say the least

What do you mean? There is a supreme court judgement confirming that reservation quota of SC, ST & OBC is valid for Priest jobs. Anyone violating this could be convicted by law. Major temples like Tirupati are already following the reservation quota system.

 

[xeuss]

It is the other way around. Only the wise and intelligent people were chosen to be Brahmans and to lead dharma. Intelligent but not wise people and wise but unintelligent people were given other positions, Ones who were neither intelligent nor wise are shudras to do menial labur.

Thanks for the explanation. This should be a sticky for easy referral.

 

[AfrazulMandal]

It is the other way around. Only the wise and intelligent people were chosen to be Brahmans and to lead dharma. Intelligent but not wise people and wise but unintelligent people were given other positions, Ones who were neither intelligent nor wise are shudras to do menial labur.

In a better world, your 'religion' would have been banned. But it exists, alas, to the detriment of the lives of millions.

 

[AfrazulMandal]

Thanks for the explanation. This should be a sticky for easy referral.

And they still ask why were Temples destroyed...

 

[Smarana Mitra]

In a better world, your 'religion' would have been banned. But it exists, alas, to the detriment of the lives of millions.

In a better world, Dharma is the only thing that will exist as it is most logical and based on natural law. All other religions will be deemed unnatural and banned

 

[Smarana Mitra]

What do you mean? There is a supreme court judgement confirming that reservation quota of SC, ST & OBC is valid for Priest jobs. Anyone violating this could be convicted by law. Major temples like Tirupati are already following the reservation quota system.

Which supreme court judgement speaks of reservation in temple jobs?

Secondly. the Ram Mandir will have Sc/ST as priest. But the inauguration is limited to popular priests and personalities only

 

[xeuss]

In a better world, Dharma is the only thing that will exist as it is most logical and based on natural law. All other religions will be deemed unnatural and banned

Kinda how Buddhism was outlawed in ancient India?

 

[Goenitz]

@The Eagle @waz @xeuss @jamahir @Joe Shearer
Is it Ram mandir? or can we call it RSS mandir? I mean, by Hindu/Vedas scripture/law is it legitimate way to construct the building?
is it like blasphemy if we start calling it RSS mandir?

source of the above thought:

 

[TheGreatMaratha]

Kinda how Buddhism was outlawed in ancient India?

There are multiple instances of kings making donations to build Buddhist viharas, universities, etc. So no, Buddhism was not outlawed in ancient India. In fact, Buddhism which originated in India is still followed by many South East Asian countries and I'm sure you know of this. Hindus don't look down on Buddhists and it's the vice versa for them as well.

But good to see you being concerned of Buddhism.