PN interested in Thunder

[ARSENAL6]

JF-17 is not the right kind of Jet for the Navy. If indeed they are interested in having an air wing of their own, they should start looking at the J-11. PN does not have an aircraft carrier and they need planes that have the range and payload capacity to hit Indian assets. JF-17 lacks in both the range and payload capacity.

Yes because buying stuff is a great way

COme on The US didn't buy aircraft from other countries they went made their own. WHy is it so difficult for PAkistan do the same. Even if the JF-17 export didn't go so well (everyone has a downside) , it still has some potential. The f16 has many VAriants so can the Jf-17 thunder

DOn't let PAkistan depentant with other countries let it stand on its own two feet.


I agree that pakistan navy should have its own air fleet I would add that Pakistan should have Heavy bombers to have the ability carry heavy ordnance against major heavy ships like Aircraft carriers cruisers.

 

[Awesome]

Naval variants work best with an aircraft carrier as a base. Otherwise, land based aircraft can do the job quite well too with specific ordnance loads customized for maritime duties.

I think when aircraft are purchased, they come in whole packages. Naval variant planes come with those specific ordinance (and in some cases capability to even carry and use them). Radars may be different, fuel capacity may be different, comm links to things like P3C Orions type platforms may be different, maritime recon capability might be there.

Yes because buying stuff is a great way

COme on The US didn't buy aircraft from other countries they went made their own. WHy is it so difficult for PAkistan do the same. Even if the JF-17 export didn't go so well (everyone has a downside) , it still has some potential. The f16 has many VAriants so can the Jf-17 thunder

DOn't let PAkistan depentant with other countries let it stand on its own two feet.


I agree that pakistan navy should have its own air fleet I would add that Pakistan should have Heavy bombers to have the ability carry heavy ordnance against major heavy ships like Aircraft carriers cruisers.

I think Pakistan already on that bandwagon. Of course capability is severely lacking but by the time JF-17 completes its life, I think Pakistan's capability would have gone up a few notches.

I think Pakistan should look into a similar kind of deal with the Chinese with the J-10 eventually

 

[474474]

Would the kind sir be referring to the strange little islands formed by the expulsion of sand into the Arabian Sea by the River Indus ? Otherwise , besides Churna and Astola , we do not have any ...

any that are stable and the size of a carrier runway

 

[Secur]

any that are stable and the size of a carrier runway

They are just too close to the enemy , if you have access to Google Maps at the moment , I suggest you have a look at them , they are very small and I do not think they are stable even ...

 

[Argus Panoptes]

]I think when aircraft are purchased, they come in whole packages. Naval variant planes come with those specific ordinance[/B] (and in some cases capability to even carry and use them). Radars may be different, fuel capacity may be different, comm links to things like P3C Orions type platforms may be different, maritime recon capability might be there..............

But isn't that the whole point of the JF-17 program, that we have the indigenous ability to integrate any ordnance package with the plane according to our needs, by integrating weapons and avionics using our own capabilities? Many here claim that we are able to do that already, so why not create the naval variants as need ourselves?

 

[aliaselin]

There seems nobody mentioned FBC-1
From the aspect of anti-ship role, this should be the best choice

 

[474474]

They are just too close to the enemy , if you have access to Google Maps at the moment , I suggest you have a look at them , they are very small and I do not think they are stable even ...

similar to a carrier, but yeah we need professionals for stability assurance. But we need an affordable alternative to carriers that's all I'm trying to say i hope you understand

 

[Reddawn]

Look I'm all for the PN operating its own fighter wing but just because a PN delegation visits PAC does NOT mean that they are going to raise a fighter wing! Can we please keep things in perspective and not try and peddle our own fantasies!

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Pakistan already operates a Mirage Squadron or two for Navy , what is the point of debate we know it is bound to happen with phase out of Mirages , might as well get 2-3 Squadrons armed with Anti Ship goodies

 

[Reddawn]

The Mirage squadrons are operated by the PAF and not the PN. Undoubtedly the PAF are going to replace the Mirage's with JF17 but thats all that is going to happen. The PN do not have the resources to invest in raising its own fighter squadron. They have far greater priorities to worry about.

 

[M.harris]

The Mirage squadrons are operated by the PAF and not the PN. Undoubtedly the PAF are going to replace the Mirage's with JF17 but thats all that is going to happen. The PN do not have the resources to invest in raising its own fighter squadron. They have far greater priorities to worry about.

No they already have their own pilots trained with paf and by paf pilots

 

[Jango]

No they already have their own pilots trained with paf and by paf pilots

Those are the PNS Mehran pilots of P3, Fokker, executive jets, Z9, SeaKing and such aerial platforms, not fighter jets.

Those pilots on the naval Mirages are PAF ones under the command of PAF, they report to PAF.

 

[RazorMC]

Can the Thunders replace the PN's Mirages over time?

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

The mirages were optimized for night time missions when we had shortage of planes and parts we needed a short term solution

Now with JF17 thunder we have far more modern platform in term of KM on the engines , so yes its a good move
however if the discussion if should we may be get J11 , could be discussed.

At sea a two engine platform means more safer flights

 

[Super Falcon]

i also think PN has it own air wing special wing for destroying enemy jets coming from enemy aircrafts or sea and destroy enemy ships as well 3 squadrons but not all JF 17 we need bombers like J 15 panther