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PM Modi conferred with Order of Zayed UAE's highest civilian award by Crown Prince

Congrats PM Modi...lot of mutual interest at stake...strong economy is key to solve all problems..we must focus on trade..
 
Why IK didn't asked Pakistanis diaspora in UAE to staged a protest against Modi in UAE while Pakistanis are protesting all over in America and Europe? Not a single protest since these gulf countries doesn't allow one in other words they don't consider public sentiments.
 
Why IK didn't asked Pakistanis diaspora in UAE to staged a protest against Modi in UAE while Pakistanis are protesting all over in America and Europe? Not a single protest since these gulf countries doesn't allow one in other words they don't consider public sentiments.
by doing so you will be breaking the law, which will result in detention & followed by deportation...holding any sort of protest, rallies are not allowed for expats @ this part of the world...........
 
Why IK didn't asked Pakistanis diaspora in UAE to staged a protest against Modi in UAE while Pakistanis are protesting all over in America and Europe? Not a single protest since these gulf countries doesn't allow one in other words they don't consider public sentiments.
What happens by protest from non residents in third country? Has it changed anything in the past...may its self immolations by Tibetians or protest by palestians...even khalistani movements...its waste of time and energy
 
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What happens by protest from non residents in third country? Has it changed anything in the past...may its self immolations by Tibetians or potest by palestians...even khalistani movements...its waste of time and energy

For Modi, its nothing but for world, Kashmir is the subject of almost daily headlines & subject of discussion. In-fact Modi helped to make it top news from Asia & concern for many players wanted to have peace in this region.
 
Its all about interests man. Guess how was this UAE aircraft modified.


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As much as it hurts me, it was expected. We need to build our economy and ask UAE to settle the so called debt of theirs against the money illegally parked in dubai by our corrupt people. Being a police state I am sure they know who these people are. They just don't want to take any action and are happy with the funds that pakistanis park in their real estate and other sectors.

Screw Iran, UAE and KSA rulers. They really don't have a people to people relationship with us and are just interested in protecting their interests which go against ours.The same has impacted us resulting in 65,000 plus casualties and hundreds of billions of dollars in economic loss.

We need to build our economy and protect our interests first. When we do that then all the lip service by our "brothers" won't matter.
 
Atheist Commie China and Secular Turkey are our true friends because our interests are completely lined up.

International relations are always made on the basis of common interests and not on common ideology or any forms of religious beliefs
A country makes relationships with other countries on the basis of common interests

I am still amazed as to why many of pdf senior members don't understand this
 
the Sheikh states that Modi deserves the award. if he likes he can even offer one of his daughters for all I care.
I agree that its their business interests that count and for UAE it was best chance to snub back at us for refusing to send our soldiers for their war of terror on Yemen aka the meat grinder

the timing seems suspicious to cause maximum hurt to the feeling of Pakistani people.
both India and UAE deserve each other.

I pray that we also become self sufficient, able and deserving and equal to deserving nations like us


great timing by UAE INdia

Yes, the timing hurts at most otherwise, in my opinion we shouldn't be complaining for these awards at all. Neither we have such investment for UAE except that our corrupt lot been stashing looted money & that served the purpose for them but not Pakistan and on other hand, we are unable to serve UAE purpose other than Economic progress. So all in all, we have nothing to offer - not the money/investment nor the services for any other strategical benefits for UAE hence, mere complains based upon Muslim brotherhood does not worth at all.

Pakistan needs to become more stronger for favourable diplomacy from UAE either by serving their purposes or by investing & having lot of stack in UAE economy.

Most of us do not follow Muslim Brotherhood by its true meaning so the same shouldn't be the concern and those who follows in letter & spirit; are well in contact with each other while supporting each other by any-means in times of need and does not care much about these political/diplomatic/economically coated gestures.
 
Tht stupid and weak sheikh, is jst praising a terrorist of his genocidal behavior cause he thinks india will defend UAE when any of its enemies will attack him.?
This stupid shiekh, will Jst know when his enemies will come and take his dam little empire and then he won't find these terrorists helping him jsta bit

Yes, the timing hurts at most otherwise, in my opinion we shouldn't be complaining for these awards at all. Neither we have such investment for UAE except that our corrupt lot been stashing looted money & that served the purpose for them but not Pakistan and on other hand, we are unable to serve UAE purpose other than Economic progress. So all in all, we have nothing to offer - not the money/investment nor the services for any other strategical benefits for UAE hence, mere complains based upon Muslim brotherhood does not worth at all.

Pakistan needs to become more stronger for favourable diplomacy from UAE either by serving their purposes or by investing & having lot of stack in UAE economy.

Most of us do not follow Muslim Brotherhood by its true meaning so the same shouldn't be the concern and those who follows in letter & spirit; are well in contact with each other while supporting each other by any-means in times of need and does not care much about these political/diplomatic/economically coated gestures.
Sorry world Jst not runs on economic powers, if its the case then today Japan, Germany should be having veto powers?
Chairman MAO said once and Thts the truth is "power flows from the barrel of a gun" bt not by the bank accounts, and economic value instead good economy makes u, weak and looking for luxuries and thts the case of all these nations be it, oil rich Arabs or robotic societies like Japan and Germany thy don't wana fight, thy want luxuries and enjoyments after some of thier jobs?
Thier mindset is to pay others to save them from any conflicts or wars or harm and Thts thier weakness is, which makes them slaves and depandents on other powers who, rule this world with military might but not because of thier dam super economies?
 
@Khafee Sir, this should have been delayed and given at another time..

Khafee, along with other Arab people are awesome people and our brothers but they have no say in such things. It is just their rulers, similar like we have our rulers Zardari, Sharif, current govt, etc etc. Just like we are helpless against our rulers, similar is the position of our Arab brothers.

Atheist Commie China and Secular Turkey are our true friends because our interests are completely lined up.

Honestly I will respectfully disagree with you here.

Turkeye and China are our brothers and regardless of our decisions, they support us.

Example, On Uyghur issue Turkeye and China have some uneasy relations, but they have never involved Pakistan in it as they completely understand our fragile position, and our relations with both Turkeye and China.

Another example, China have never forced Pakistan to quit relations with US, regardless of our relations with US China still stood with us.
 
While India is butchering Kashmiri Muslims and here we have our brother UAE conferring a highest Emirati award to the terrorist butcher.

I know many will jump here trying to silence other opinion by claiming Pakistan is punished because it didn't help in butchering of innocent Yemeni Muslims or how these gulf states threw few billions of $ bheek (which actually has to be repaid)

Anyways their country their rules. If they are happy with this who are we to to stop them. Instead o whining(as many will say), we should pray, "May Allah Almighty make them live together, here in this world, and hereafter".

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I would suggest to all Pakistanis over here to Calm down.....
We literally are a strange bunch .... love to live in the past .... take things for granted ... and stretch them far beyond natural elasticity.... as a result.... when then break .... we feel it hard.... not realizing our own blunder in the first place...
Generally Pakistan and its people have been very close and emotionally attached to Arabs ...specially Saudia and the Emirates... given to the historical background in relations and the drive of the then leaders for an Islamic Block.... Pakistan being a keystone country for the block.... above all that the religious value that sarzamen-e-hijaz holds for muslims...... historically , there is no doubt the three countries enjoyed excellent relations .... and helping each other in the hour of need.... and lets be candid ... them helping us more then us helping them... its a fact ... they transferred huge sums for our nuclear program(had that not been there...The idea of an islamic bomb, we would have not achieved it).... helped us through Oil when we got sanctioned .... a hell lot of philanthropic work throughout the length and breadth of Pakistan..... even offered us their military apparatus in times of war.... or at least that was the idea....
Given the background our people naturally drew a lot of emotional attachment towards these two countries... and many considered UAE as their second home.... Till the regime of sheikh zaid .... all was nice and dandy ... Its was post Sheikh zaid ....that the new rulers were/are not much fond of Pakistan .... their orientation shifted from Pakistan to India... gates were opened to India.....large numbers of Indians were allowed to work and open businesses over there.... India further used its entertainment industry... specifically Bollywood.... to strengthen its ties.... and undoubtedly the large indian market and they way the indians have marketed it around the globe to gain leverage ...... lured in the new sheikhs..... Pakistan on the other hand had no such things offer... infact we never even tried to(special thanks to the thugs ruling us) .... we always took our position for granted.... all we could offer were our human resource ... that too majority a labor class....
whats worrying is the inability of our intelligentsia, our political lot, our media and to some extent our establishment to realize that things have changed enormously post shiekh zaid ..... there were bold and conspicuous signs of that ... for us to catch ....and so to adapt and approach the country differently ..... there whole outlook changed ..... and so u cant really blame the common masses sleeping under the same stone... only to be in for a rude awakening...
what happened today .... is just a series of those policies ..... so for me nothing alarming .... its perfectly normal for countries to honor heads of states and other dignitaries with such awards..... India now for sometimes enjoy excellent relations with them so its all normal..... it is not going to do Pakistan any harm ..... whats not normal is the particular Timing..... Kashmir practically made a hell ... burning 24/7, 360..... shows the insensitivity and akin to disrespect of the fellow Muslims and Pakistan too.... it also undermines their cause in a way..... this hurts Pakistan emotionally ... and the seed of hatred that some forces have been trying to sow for long between us .... am afraid will grow quickly now.... and to be honest theses sheikhs.... the spoiled brats dont give a damn about that .... why should they?
This BTW this is not the first time ... they showed similar disrespects even before ...remember them hosting OIC and inviting India, despite our protests.... when we were practically at war with india.....remember their statements in public after Pakistan deciding not to send forces to yaman ?? and that reminds me some one here calling Pakistan making a blunder ..... and them offering Middle east to us on platter??? hell no .... that was the first right decision Pakistan made as country ...when it comes foreign policy in ages.... the assumptions made by this fellow is that it would have granted us a lot of leverage in there ..... not at all... there was nothing in for us in yaman .... no leverage no gains ... all it would have done... is creating more enemies... a definite serge in sectarian violence at home... where the country was just about stabilizing from a long, brutal, exhausting and toxic war on terror .... above all that you would have to get your public ready for receiving lots lots of body bags ....of our soldiers fighting in yamen..... and what for ??? that we fail to comprehend ..... what stake did we have over there.....and some still advocate for that .... there were no gains ... no leverage ... nothing in for us ... it was just a gutter cleaning ... shameful and pathetic job ... that we thankfully didn't accept ... and sense prevailed... which rarely happens in this country ...
lastly ... we a nation should not take this decision of UAE at these particular timings too hard... we should not show a reactive response.... take note of it ... but not be reactive .... amend our relations ... take maximum benefits of good relations.... work to re-build respect.... all of it comes down ... to simple economics ... till we build our economy .... expect such things happening every now and then.....
What worries me when it comes to UAE .... which is a small kid playing on the big boys block for too long.... its playing war in some countries and proxy war in others.... for a small country like UAE this profile doesn't seem fit... I am afraid it wont go unnoticed for too long .... courtesy its economy .... which also might not long in the next 2-3 decades....with the oil almost gone... and given that its economy is largely based on trade and tourism(the most fragile)..... and lacking a true Industrial base or agri sector as a foundation... But thats the world we live in!
 
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Thank-you UAE. Hindus of India and Muslims of Kashmir and Pakistan will remember this day. And I leave you with this prayer that under this brotherhood, may you be together in this world and hereafter.

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good job, kill more Kashmiri and muslims in Gujrat ..... very sad......I am very sad
 
I would suggest to all Pakistanis over here to Calm down.....
We literally are a strange bunch .... love to live in the past .... take things for granted ... and stretch them far beyond natural elasticity.... as a result.... when then break .... we feel it hard.... not realizing our own blunder in the first place...
Generally Pakistan and its people have been very close and emotionally attached to Arabs ...specially Saudia and the Emirates... given to the historical background in relations and the drive of the then leaders for an Islamic Block.... Pakistan being a keystone country for the block.... above all that the religious value that sarzamen-e-hijaz holds for muslims...... historically , there is no doubt the three countries enjoyed excellent relations .... and helping each other in the hour of need.... and lets be candid ... them helping us more then us helping them... its a fact ... they transferred huge sums for our nuclear program(had that not been there...The idea of an islamic bomb, we would have not achieved it).... helped us through Oil when we got sanctioned .... a hell lot of philanthropic work throughout the length and breadth of Pakistan..... even offered us their military apparatus in times of war.... or at least that was the idea....
Given the background our people naturally drew a lot of emotional attachment towards these two countries... and many considered UAE as their second home.... Till the regime of sheikh zaid .... all was nice and dandy ... Its was post Sheikh zaid ....that the new rulers were/are not much fond of Pakistan .... their orientation shifted from Pakistan to India... gates were opened to India.....large numbers of Indians were allowed to work and open businesses over there.... India further used its entertainment industry... specifically Bollywood.... to strengthen its ties.... and undoubtedly the large indian market and they way the indians have marketed it around the globe to gain leverage ...... lured in the new sheikhs..... Pakistan on the other hand had no such things offer... infact we never even tried to(special thanks to the thugs ruling us) .... we always took our position for granted.... all we could offer were our human resource ... that too majority a labor class....
whats worrying is the inability of our intelligentsia, our political lot, our media and to some extent our establishment to realize that things have changed enormously post shiekh zaid ..... there were bold and conspicuous signs of that ... for us to catch ....and so to adapt and approach the country differently ..... there whole outlook changed ..... and so u cant really blame the common masses sleeping under the same stone... only to be in for a rude awakening...
what happened today .... is just a series of those policies ..... so for me nothing alarming .... its perfectly normal for countries to honor heads of states and other dignitaries with such awards..... India now for sometimes enjoy excellent relations with them so its all normal..... it is not going to Pakistan any harm ..... whats not normal is the particular Timing..... Kashmir practically made a hell ... burning 360..... shows the insensitivity and akin to disrespect of the fellow Muslims and Pakistan too.... it also undermines their cause in away..... this hurts Pakistan and emotionally ... and the seed that hatred that some forces have been trying to sow for long between .... am afraid will grow quickly now.... and to be honest theses sheikhs.... the spoiled brats dont give a damn about that .... why should they?
This BTW is not the first time ... they showed similar disrespects even before ... remember their statements in public after Pakistan deciding not to send forces to yaman ?? and that reminds me some one here calling Pakistan making a blunder ..... and them offering Middle east to us on platter??? hell no .... that was the first right decision Pakistan made as country ...when it comes foreign policy in ages.... the assumptions made by this fellow is that it would have granted us a lot leverage in there ..... not at all... there was nothing in for us in yaman .... no leverage no gains ... all would have done... is creating more enemies... a definite serge in sectarian violence... where the country was just about stabilizing from a long, brutal, exhausting and toxic war on terror .... above all that you would have to get your public ready for receiving lots lots of body bags ....of our soldiers fighting in yamen..... and what for ??? that we fail to comprehend ..... what stake did we have over there.....and some still advocate for that .... there was no gains ... no leverage ... nothing in for us ... it was just a gutter cleaning ... shameful and pathetic job ... that we thankfully didn't accept ... and sense prevailed... which rarely happens in this country ...
lastly ... we a nation should not take this decision of UAE at these particular timings too hard... we should not show a reactive response.... take note of it ... but not be reactive .... amend our relations ... take maximum benefits of good relations.... work to re-build respect.... all of it comes down ... to simple economics ... till we build our economy .... expect such things happening every now and then.....
What worries me when it comes to UAE .... which is a small kid playing on the big boys block for too long.... its playing war in some countries and proxy war in others.... for a small country like UAE this profile doesn't seem fit... I am afraid it wont go unnoticed for too long .... courtesy its economy .... which also might not long in the next 2-3 decades....with the oil almost gone... and given that its economy is largely based on trade and tourism(the most fragile)..... and lacking a true Industrial base or agri sector as a foundation... But thats the world we live in!

I absolutely agree with your post entirely.

Although I'm not at all happy with recent developments wrt UAE's/KSA's govt decisions, but the fact cannot be denied that in the past they supported us, in 90's the help with the oil... and another major importance is they still provide labor jobs to hundreds of thousands of poor Pakistanis.
 
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