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Funny how Bangladeshis are rooting for China. What they don't rezlie is when China dams the Brahmaputra, guess who will suffer more down stream?
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Maybe India is going to attack Pakistan if Chinese submarine allow to dock at Pakistan?
i doubt that can happen...it has very huge geo-political consequences...however nothing wrong in making sweeping statementsSo China decides to take on India I think Pakistan should allow two nuclear and two destroyers to be placed at our Naval bases
So China decides to take on India I think Pakistan should allow two nuclear and two destroyers to be placed at our Naval bases
Why do Pakistanis always rent out their country to others?So China decides to take on India I think Pakistan should allow two nuclear and two destroyers to be placed at our Naval bases
By 2025 expect PLAN to have around the following:
4 carriers
6 Type-052C destoyer
12 Type-052D destroyer
8 Type-055 cruiser
12 Type-95 SSN
IN will have no chance if the Chinese even send half this fleet to IOR.
US Navy destroyed the more experienced Japanese Navy in WW2. Experience is over-rated. 10 years is plenty of time for China to master the fundamentals of carrier warfare.
China has taken the hull of the Varyag and completely refurbished it, including fitting its own engines. They are using the knowledge from this to build more carriers. It is a gradual step and soon they will be building a completely indigenous design. They have much more experience building ships in general than India does and so building large carriers wont be too much of a problem for the Chinese.
Fair enough.
Several Type-55 cruisers could hold over 1000 medium and long-range SAMs, while guiding over a hundred missiles simultaneously to their targets. The Chinese are constructing a formidable protection force for their carriers.
Let us wait another 10-15 years and all will be revealed.
By 2025 expect PLAN to have around the following:
4 carriers
6 Type-052C destoyer
12 Type-052D destroyer
8 Type-055 cruiser
12 Type-95 SSN
IN will have no chance if the Chinese even send half this fleet to IOR.
The american war machine was far bigger than Japanese ones.
Japan built 15 aircraft carriers during war, US bult more than 100.
The difference is not that big when it comes to China and India.
Use your deducing skills.
no offense but India has a history of saying more than actually doing
What aAmaze me the PLANs production rate like 3 ships in one dayIf the 3 CBG's are kept around the Indian ocean, than I can see your point, each CBG (although different than the CBG's in the USN) will provide significant fire power. However, with India's growing aspirations to be a bigger power and to be able to project force outside of the Indian ocean, how would these 3 CBG's be deployed?
Also, to be frank here, the French navy is probably a comparison to the IN today. In the next ten years, IN and PLAN will grow to a degree where the French navy would look like a small regional force. There is no comparison to the growth potential between the Indian Navy and the Chinese Navy, compared to the French. USN as always, will remain ahead of everyone else for the next 3-4 decades to come (and potentially more).
I like your post, very useful details. Is there a way you could provide a list of basic comparison between the Indian and the Chinese navies?
@DJ Crudept - would you have this detail available? I'd like to see the difference between the two.
TrueIn India ocean, the conflict is between China and India, US has no need to be involve. Asians should deal with their own issues.
It will only be USN THAT RULE ASIAN WATERS.
Since WWII, world' industrial picture has changed a lot. By now shipbuilding is one of the many industries China lead globally.
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In 2012, China produced 67 million GT of ships (civilian ships, warships figures not included) that 45% of world total
Shipbuilding being a heavy industry has long value chain and hence significant influence on the tech and development of other industries. Say in crude steel industry, China produced 779 million tons in 2013, that's 48.5% of world total, well ahead of EU (165 million tons), Japan (110 million tons) and USA (87 million tons),
These figures show that PLAN's development only take up a relatively very small fraction of China's total industrial capability, even with at an increased speed of expansion during the peace time. These capabilities are more important than say consumer spend data in case of war time (e,g, during WWII, US out-build Imperial Japan, Nazi Germany, or any countires in all armaments).
Shipbuilding - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
List of countries by steel production - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
So China decides to take on India I think Pakistan should allow two nuclear and two destroyers to be placed at our Naval bases
Who's he ? The white guyAre you just thinking....
See after seeing this picture i realized Pakistanis would allow anythings of Chinese to leave anywhere they like
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About dam in Brahmaputra.Funny how Bangladeshis are rooting for China. What they don't rezlie is when China dams the Brahmaputra, guess who will suffer more down stream?