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Talibans will let take care of naval assets.they dont have the balls to do that
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Talibans will let take care of naval assets.they dont have the balls to do that
I don't think plan can control IOR.
They Will have to face Mighty USN , RAN, RN , IN too
no offense but India has a history of saying more than actually doing
and BanglaNavy will control south china sea in the futurePLAN and USN will jointly control the India Ocean in the future.
unlike india china can afford to face those navies
You are outsourcing your regional conflict to the US and the RN? That's pretty smart, when you don't have any come back, you put the party in there that's not a part of the discussion? USN or RN won't just jump into a conflict because India and China have a history of those, there has to be a valid reason and a threat to the US itself. Otherwise, everyone would expect us to jump in because we did business with them.
I was talking about Controlling not fucking war :/You are outsourcing your regional conflict to the US and the RN? That's pretty smart, when you don't have any come back, you put the party in there that's not a part of the discussion? USN or RN won't just jump into a conflict because India and China have a history of those, there has to be a valid reason and a threat to the US itself. Otherwise, everyone would expect us to jump in because we did business with them.
I was talking about Controlling not fucking war :/
You are outsourcing your regional conflict to the US and the RN? That's pretty smart, when you don't have any come back, you put the party in there that's not a part of the discussion? USN or RN won't just jump into a conflict because India and China have a history of those, there has to be a valid reason and a threat to the US itself. Otherwise, everyone would expect us to jump in because we did business with them.
I was talking about Controlling not fucking war :/You are outsourcing your regional conflict to the US and the RN? That's pretty smart, when you don't have any come back, you put the party in there that's not a part of the discussion? USN or RN won't just jump into a conflict because India and China have a history of those, there has to be a valid reason and a threat to the US itself. Otherwise, everyone would expect us to jump in because we did business with them.
In case of PLAN vs IN I don't think that plan can Attack (?) On india because indian navy is also powerful like French navy.Sorry if I misunderstood you. Even in the context of controlling, you put the Chinese against the US and others. That wasn't even the topic, the topic was really Chinese trying to control this side of the ocean because of India, there ain't no US around Sri Lanka that the Chinese need to worry about. So let's be productive in our discussion in the context of the Chinese Navy vs. the IN, I think this could be a great discussion with a ton of good fact based information on it. When we troll a thread, the real topic dies down and there is no fun debating or reading anymore. Thanks,
Thankyou For Tagging Sir...................On Topic......PLAN is much more powerful and well equipped than Indian Navy and it is a well known fact....If today the difference between PLAN and Indian Navy is large, then in future it will only grow....For IN inducting 4-5 SSBN will take atleast 8-10 Years(by looking at the current pace of shipyards in India)...By that time PLAN will also induct different vessels....and hence the difference will remain as it is now or it might grow because PLAN can build multiple vessels in much less time than IN e.g. these Corvettes.....I was talking about Controlling not fucking war :/
In case of PLAN vs IN I don't think that plan can Attack (?) On india because indian navy is also powerful like French navy.
(I am talking about future)
3 CBGs
8+(4) Destroyers
9+3+4 16/18 frigates
8+4+6+6 24 Sub's
4-5 Nuclear Subs
..........
Your opinion sir @Viper0011. and sir @TimeTraveller and sir @Echo_419
I was talking about Controlling not fucking war :/
In case of PLAN vs IN I don't think that plan can Attack (?) On india because indian navy is also powerful like French navy.
(I am talking about future)
3 CBGs
8+(4) Destroyers
9+3+4 16/18 frigates
8+4+6+6 24 Sub's
4-5 Nuclear Subs
..........
Your opinion sir @Viper0011. and sir @TimeTraveller and sir @Echo_419
Thankyou For Tagging Sir...................On Topic......PLAN is much more powerful and well equipped than Indian Navy and it is a well known fact....If today the difference between PLAN and Indian Navy is large, then in future it will only grow....For IN inducting 4-5 SSBN will take atleast 8-10 Years(by looking at the current pace of shipyards in India)...By that time PLAN will also induct different vessels....and hence the difference will remain as it is now or it might grow because PLAN can build multiple vessels in much less time than IN e.g. these Corvettes.....
8 Type 056 Corvettes in 1 Year only + different other vessels(Destroyers,Frigates,Auxiliary Ships etc...)....
Nice replyThankyou For Tagging Sir...................On Topic......PLAN is much more powerful and well equipped than Indian Navy and it is a well known fact....If today the difference between PLAN and Indian Navy is large, then in future it will only grow....For IN inducting 4-5 SSBN will take atleast 8-10 Years(by looking at the current pace of shipyards in India)...By that time PLAN will also induct different vessels....and hence the difference will remain as it is now or it might grow because PLAN can build multiple vessels in much less time than IN e.g. these Corvettes.....
8 Type 056 Corvettes in 1 Year only + different other vessels(Destroyers,Frigates,Auxiliary Ships etc...)....
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PLAN might not attack IN because it is highly unlikely that it will happen because in Today's world, War is fought through political and diplomatical means and not with weapons....But it is sure that PLAN has a clear advantage over IN....
We can verify this by many means e.g. Type 092 vs INS Arihant or Type 094 vs Follow On Arihant Class.....Type 092 is a well tested platform along with Type 094..Also Type 094 can carry JL2 Missile )..
having a range of upto 12000Km with multiple warheads whereas K4 has a maximum range of 3500km with a single warhead...Also Arihant can carry only 4 K4 missiles whereas Type 094 can carry 12 JL2 Missile or 16 JL2 Type 2 Missile........Type 096 is on its way.......
Type 052B/C/D Destroyer also has a clear advantage over Kolkata Class on many aspects..........And many more...
Hence a direct confrontation with PLAN will not be feasible for IN...It is not like IN has a very bad standard against PLAN but it is like IN has a different requirement and neccessity than PLAN.... But IN is well trained and equipped to atleast save its citizens from any difficulties.....
@DJ Crudept Thanks Sir .......
One thing is thru that IN JPN and PLAN will rule the Asian WatersIf the 3 CBG's are kept around the Indian ocean, than I can see your point, each CBG (although different than the CBG's in the USN) will provide significant fire power. However, with India's growing aspirations to be a bigger power and to be able to project force outside of the Indian ocean, how would these 3 CBG's be deployed?
Also, to be frank here, the French navy is probably a comparison to the IN today. In the next ten years, IN and PLAN will grow to a degree where the French navy would look like a small regional force. There is no comparison to the growth potential between the Indian Navy and the Chinese Navy, compared to the French. USN as always, will remain ahead of everyone else for the next 3-4 decades to come (and potentially more).
Why not Sir.....I will provide you the comparison but it will take some time......If the 3 CBG's are kept around the Indian ocean, than I can see your point, each CBG (although different than the CBG's in the USN) will provide significant fire power. However, with India's growing aspirations to be a bigger power and to be able to project force outside of the Indian ocean, how would these 3 CBG's be deployed?
Also, to be frank here, the French navy is probably a comparison to the IN today. In the next ten years, IN and PLAN will grow to a degree where the French navy would look like a small regional force. There is no comparison to the growth potential between the Indian Navy and the Chinese Navy, compared to the French. USN as always, will remain ahead of everyone else for the next 3-4 decades to come (and potentially more).
I like your post, very useful details. Is there a way you could provide a list of basic comparison between the Indian and the Chinese navies?
@DJ Crudept - would you have this detail available? I'd like to see the difference between the two.
Nice reply
Your welcome sir
One thing is thru that IN JPN and PLAN will rule the Asian Waters
Interesting time ahead
What type of comparison you want me to provide you Sir....If the 3 CBG's are kept around the Indian ocean, than I can see your point, each CBG (although different than the CBG's in the USN) will provide significant fire power. However, with India's growing aspirations to be a bigger power and to be able to project force outside of the Indian ocean, how would these 3 CBG's be deployed?
Also, to be frank here, the French navy is probably a comparison to the IN today. In the next ten years, IN and PLAN will grow to a degree where the French navy would look like a small regional force. There is no comparison to the growth potential between the Indian Navy and the Chinese Navy, compared to the French. USN as always, will remain ahead of everyone else for the next 3-4 decades to come (and potentially more).
I like your post, very useful details. Is there a way you could provide a list of basic comparison between the Indian and the Chinese navies?
@DJ Crudept - would you have this detail available? I'd like to see the difference between the two.
The IN will haveBy 2025 expect PLAN to have around the following:
4 carriers
6 Type-052C destoyer
12 Type-052D destroyer
8 Type-055 cruiser
12 Type-95 SSN
IN will have no chance if the Chinese even send half this fleet to IOR.