Penalty of Rs 600 cr may be imposed for Gorshkov delay

[Windjammer]

Want to give similar reply, but don't want to derail the thread.


Yeah...like US do with...err....leave it. Will fuel more off topic posts after this.

KRAIT Dear, while US did initially withheld the F-16s, but in due course, it ended up supplying the latest version of the aircraft and complemented with compensating with even releasing the embargoed machines, how does that compares with the on going saga of repeated delays and manifold price increase. ....with no end in sight. ?? !!

 

[ChennaiDude]

Considering the past history, Mr Moscow may end up screwing Bharat Begum for even more $$$$$$$$$.

Russia is not the USA Who screwed you in the Past..who screws you in the present and will continue scewing with you in the future.....!

 

[ironman]

hahaha hahaha hahhaha hahah they have got your AC and your money and you expect to impose penalty....Given Russian attitude...this one is going under carpet for sure.

Someone has got excess wheat in his store..

INS Trishul F43 and INS Tabar F44 - and were delayed seven months and eleven months respectively. Failure to meet the contract deadlines forced Baltisky Zavod to pay India a stipulated levy for the delays of USD $38.5 million.

The Edge of the Sword - The TALWAR Class
By IAN JOHNSON
Navy League of Australia | Navy Magazine

 

[Windjammer]

Russia is not the USA Who screwed you in the Past..who screws you in the present and will continue scewing with you in the future.....!

Absolutely agree on the highlighted part, Russia has and is and will only screw India and Indians, the subject is an actual proof of this courtship.

 

[jnd3x0]

Then Why Pakistan Apa so ready to go to bed with Mr Moscow..?

ahem Inferiority complex again

 

[KRAIT]

KRAIT Dear, while US did initially withheld the F-16s, but in due course, it ended up supplying the latest version of the aircraft and complemented with compensating with even releasing the embargoed machines, how does that compares with the on going saga of repeated delays and manifold price increase. ....with no end in sight. ?? !!

Agreed that US is more professional than Russia. Point is we couldn't foresee the problems that have emerged and the time when we decided to buy , it was the only option we had. Remember, simply buying in ACC doesn't mean everything.

Pakistan did get the aircrafts but US won't offer their latest tech. while Russia will. Problem with this project, from my POV, is that Indian Navy is more responsible for this and GoI less pressurizing the Russians.

ACC operation is not an easy task, but while the repair is being done, IN officers are getting training on Vikramaditya. IN pilots are already been flying VTOL and STOVL for decades. The delivery of Mig-29K is going at good rate and IN pilots are already getting training on them too.

So buddy, there are lots of aspect that isn't discussed when our ACC is considered. One has to take into account that as soon as IN receives VIKKI, the deployment won't be that time consuming. Even if for argument's sake I say that we get it by 2013 end, its not a big deal.

But yeah, Russia should have been more professional and IN should have been more careful for this acquisition of massive scale.

 

[MilSpec]

KRAIT Dear, while US did initially withheld the F-16s, but in due course, it ended up supplying the latest version of the aircraft and complemented with compensating with even releasing the embargoed machines, how does that compares with the on going saga of repeated delays and manifold price increase. ....with no end in sight. ?? !!

It is well known how US treats pakistan, A few months ago, pakistanis were out for US blood after friendly fire incident, and now that they are giving you a few used f16, all is good. It is so easy for US.

you are quick to point out the aircraft carrier but conveniently ignore the talwar class frigates, Awacs platforms, Nuke subs, Ongoing Mki's Brahmos, S300PMU's, Mig 29 K's and Mig29 UPG's, and immense tech transfer to Indian shipbuilding facilities.

And weren't you guys harping on russu-pakistani relations? what happened

Absolutely agree on the highlighted part, Russia has and is and will only screw India and Indians, the subject is an actual proof of this courtship.

Hey, our allies dont bomb us every other day, can you say the same???

 

[MilSpec]

Groshkov is a free gift from Russia, name as Vikkramditya by India.

you must be mistaking it for oliver perry hazard class junk being donated to PN as of now....

 

[fast]

It’s official, Gorshkov gets delayed by another year

In a blow to the Indian Navy’s aircraft carrier programme, visiting Russian defence minister Anatoly Serdyukov on Wednesday confirmed that the Indian Navy would receive the aircraft carrier, INS Vikramaditya (formerly called the Gorshkov), only a year from now.
Business Standard had reported last month (September 18, 2012, ‘“Gorshkov curse” continues, aircraft carrier fails trials’) that the 45,000 tonne aircraft carrier, which Russia was to deliver to India in 2008, would now be delivered after October 2013, having suffered a major engine failure during ongoing sea trials in the Barents Sea.

On Wednesday in New Delhi, a visibly embarrassed Serdyukov admitted at a press conference, “We believe the transfer of the ship from Russia to the authorities in India will take place in the fourth quarter of 2013.”

His stony-faced Indian counterpart, AK Antony, who sat next to Serdyukov without looking at him, kept open the option of invoking a penalty clause in the contract which allows India to penalise Russia for the delay, to the extent of five per cent of the ship’s cost. Asked specifically about the penalty clause, Antony responded, “These are issues we will discuss later… not now. Now, our main concern is the early delivery (of the Vikramaditya).”

Adding to Antony’s discomfiture, Serdyukov also stated that the fifth-generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) India and Russia are co-developing, would only start production by 2020. In that case, it would not enter service with the Indian Air Force (IAF) before 2022-23. Antony has earlier stated the FGFA would join the IAF by 2017.

Broadsword: It’s official, Gorshkov gets delayed by another year

As predicated by many, the ship will be delayed without any penalty. The Russians basically told Indians to stfu and sit back in the corner to wait for the ship to be ready.

 

[Paan Singh]

As predicated by many, the ship will be delayed without any penalty. The Russians basically told Indians to stfu and sit back in the corner to wait for the ship to be ready.

why u have both U.S flags after being a pakistani

i know you can speak n write well in urdu

 

[EMERCOM]

As predicated by many, the ship will be delayed without any penalty. The Russians basically told Indians to stfu and sit back in the corner to wait for the ship to be ready.

So? russians provide india with Technologies that USA does not share with its allies.

 

[SinoChallenger]

LOL at indians trying to backstab Russia and then get spanked.

 

[Paan Singh]

Absolutely agree on the highlighted part, Russia has and is and will only screw India and Indians, the subject is an actual proof of this courtship.

Nopes,its ur brain farts which makes u to think so..No body denies the poor management in vikki but look at the other hardware like MKI's or mig-29 or Mi-17 or frigates ..mostly they are on time ...

LOL at indians trying to backstab Russia and then get spanked.

You do LOL 24 hrs....u might have some serious problms

 

[fast]

You do LOL 24 hrs....u might have some serious problms

Likewise for you.

 

[Sergi]

Likewise for you.

No it's not like wise we loved mentally challeged posts they give us real good laugh. We don't just LOL we

BTW whats with US flag ??? Ashamed of own nation or migrated ???