Peace in war-torn Afghanistan only via Kashmir, Pakistan tells US

[A-Team]

We have huge leverage or influence over Afghan Taliban specially Haqqani network. That's what current Afghan government always blame Pakistan for lol. If you don't believe me you can ask @A-Team .
Also to know our influence. Few days back one of our Mi-35 heli crashed over Afghanistan (Taliban controlled territory) . And they crew became prisoners of Taliban . The crew also had one Russian member. But you know Taliban released all members unharmed

Thank you seconding the Afghan position Next time you blame Afghans for being chummy with India because of you backing anti afghan elements then would help to look inwards a bit ( SAARC bycott was just one step in that direction)

So you are basically admitting Pakistan has influence -- even control -- over the Taliban? So @A-Team is basically correct in what he says?

Of course he does, the whole world knows this and thus no-one is taking position seriously and thus the isolution.
SAARC got canceled, ok PDF member will always put it as useless orgnaziation but that is not how diplomacy works.
Most of these folks have nerver been in to real conferences because if they do then they will realize how isloated is Pakistan and that is basis on why Pakistan civilians have started raisining their voice ( latest dawn article being one example )

Here is another simple example--- How many policy heavy weights did Senator Mushahid met when he was visiting the US? Of course if having interns sitting in the altantic council sounds like heavy weights then that is another discussion

 

[Hammad Arshad Qureshi]

Thank you seconding the Afghan position Next time you blame Afghans for being chummy with India because of you backing anti afghan elements then would help to look inwards a bit ( SAARC bycott was just one step in that direction)



Of course he does, the whole world knows this and thus no-one is taking position seriously and thus the isolution.
SAARC got canceled, ok PDF member will always put it as useless orgnaziation but that is not how diplomacy works.
Most of these folks have nerver been in to real conferences because if they do then they will realize how isloated is Pakistan and that is basis on why Pakistan civilians have started raisining their voice ( latest dawn article being one example )

Here is another simple example--- How many policy heavy weights did Senator Mushahid met when he was visiting the US? Of course if having interns sitting in the altantic council sounds like heavy weights then that is another discussion

Well as i explained you earlier yesterday what is the Reason Pakistan policy makers decided to back Afghan Taliban . Anti Pakistan Elements in Afghanistan and also their backing by NDS .
Now to come to your second quote . Isolated? How? Have you ever been to any such conferences? You are giving lecture to PDF Pakistani members like you have been part of Afghan dialogue deligation lol.
We Pakistani members will feel isolated when countries will not buy or sell weapons from us. High level delegate and representative of other government don't visit Pakistan. The trade with Pakistan especially exports will go down drastically due to sanctions. The Pakistan is sanctioned by USA or UN or European Union.
If above aspects does not happen then i call the isolation lie and afghan/indian properganda.

So you are basically admitting Pakistan has influence -- even control -- over the Taliban? So @A-Team is basically correct in what he says?

Sure it's an open secret . Even our policy makers like Sartaj Aziz have admitted several times in USA and in home

 

[GR!FF!N]

So,how Pakistan deduce this conclusion??

Is Kashmiri youths are fighting in Afghanistan??or vice versa??What could be possible logic to like Kashmir with Afghanistan??

Only link between these two insurgency is its Pakistan's proxy war.Cut off the head of the snake,problem solved.

 

[Hammad Arshad Qureshi]

So,how Pakistan deduce this conclusion??

Is Kashmiri youths are fighting in Afghanistan??or vice versa??What could be possible logic to like Kashmir with Afghanistan??

Only link between these two insurgency is its Pakistan's proxy war.Cut off the head of the snake,problem solved.

Most welcome partner . So when are you sending your armored division in Pakistan? Or you will become chicken like always and hide behind Uncle Sam?

 

[ranadd]

@Horus @Irfan Baloch @waz this guy is derailing each and every thread on PDF these days

Rich coming from you.

 

[mr42O]

No one more than Pakistan want to see our brothers in Afghanistan living in peace both nation should have good relationship. I have always seen Afghans as friends

But stop Indian use Afghanistan against Pakistan. I bet India would never allow millions Afghans as refugees.

That is oxymoron my friend and look where it has brought Pakistan into, a country whose civilians are begging the miltiary to change course because nobody in the world is listening to them anymore.
It also provides one more reason for Afghans to create strong institution because on one hand Pakistan complains that the Afghan issue is only because Durand Line and now its attaching Afghan security to Kashmire, next it will be Afghan security connected to Pakistani interests in Africa

We as Afghans couldn't care less whether you make peace with India or not, just keep us away from your wars and if you try to bring to Afghanistan which you have been then you will feel the heat as well.

Pathetic logic.



This blackmail has been ongoing for a while, first they said if assistance to Pakistan is stopped Pakistan will do this and that,US assistance is going downwards, then they said if F16s are not provided to Pakistan then there will be hell [ nothing happend] , next time it will be if Pakistan is not provided a share in the dimonds of Congo then no peace with Afghanistan.

The leadership in Pakistan seems to think the world is run by idiots.

 

[jha]

So basically : "do as we say or, we will do worse."

Bold stance by Pakistan. I am sure Americans would appreciate this (as I am told, Americans like people from third world coming to US and threaten them ).

 

[cloud4000]

So basically : "do as we say or, we will do worse."

Bold stance by Pakistan. I am sure Americans would appreciate this (as I am told, Americans like people from third world coming to US and threaten them ).

Don't know if this is just Mushahid Hussein saying this or if this an official position of Pakistan. I think we should wait for confirmation from either side.

 

[Bratva]

Thank you seconding the Afghan position Next time you blame Afghans for being chummy with India because of you backing anti afghan elements then would help to look inwards a bit ( SAARC bycott was just one step in that direction)



Of course he does, the whole world knows this and thus no-one is taking position seriously and thus the isolution.
SAARC got canceled, ok PDF member will always put it as useless orgnaziation but that is not how diplomacy works.
Most of these folks have nerver been in to real conferences because if they do then they will realize how isloated is Pakistan and that is basis on why Pakistan civilians have started raisining their voice ( latest dawn article being one example )

Here is another simple example--- How many policy heavy weights did Senator Mushahid met when he was visiting the US? Of course if having interns sitting in the altantic council sounds like heavy weights then that is another discussion

What kind of Isolation Pakistan is facing might I ask ?

 

[jha]

Don't know if this is just Mushahid Hussein saying this or if this an official position of Pakistan. I think we should wait for confirmation from either side.

He is special envoy of Pakistan's PM . As official as it gets.

 

[WhyCry]

What kind of Isolation Pakistan is facing might I ask ?

Man you are a think tank analyst.

All I can say is...
Qatil ho phr b Mazloom ho tm!
Sab ko Maloom hai Phir b Na-Maloom ho Tum!

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

This is implied admission of Pakistan's involvement in the turmoil in Afghanistan. They are using Afghanistan to blackmail the world on Kashmir. The two places have no connection. Absolutely shameful Pakistan. Why make the Afghans suffer for something that has nothing to do with them ?

 

[WhyCry]

What kind of Isolation Pakistan is facing might I ask ?

Pakistan has raised the issue of kashmir and you can evaluate its support. Check the SAARC platform. You can look at other forums and pakistans support from its allies and response on international platforms,

In the latest, you can also get the support over the surgical strikes. As many of you are claiming it fake. If I agree to this notion then India has so much support on the Fake surgical strikes that if it was real then they will be diwali in all these nations and support from more.

 

[ConcealCarry]

Its so hard to tell you from other Indians, you all look the same

 

[WhyCry]

Yes it work if you do it diplomacy we do it blackmail

But unfortunately we did what good we can know you see how we play music and you dance

Jab tak basanti nacgegi tab tak india safe rahega

Naach meri but bul tu peace mipega

I don't think so. Sharif responsible are dancing to the tunes of Mr. Modi that too precise to the orders.

Come to my swearing ceremony, take this order and don't dare to talk to separatist and each month he trashed the hell out of him or his superior. The only effective response is we are a nuclear nation like he forgot.

Its so hard to tell you from other Indians, you all look the same

Thats why they have to come here to see the full zoo. Is that what you are saying? Please clarify.