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PCB, CSA, SLC and BCB against proposals - Zaka Ashraf

ICC is getting 80% of its money from the BCCI revenues...Which will be divided equally between all the test playing nations...
Its pure maths that you guys are taking our money...


LOL...its india thats not allowing them...

lol 80% from BCCI, gimme a break?

don't pay ICC, its simple as that,

money is coming from every country not just BCCI and Pakistan doesn't get to play and earn money from more tours which ICC favours towards indian, thus more money ICC lets india to make

ICC is enabling you to arrange that prostitution league you call IPL in the first place and hiding all your corruption and all tht shitt
 
India - Pakistan matches are iconic and you want that not to happen???

Its your board which does not want to play for one political excuse or another. Its your cricket board which does not let Pakistan players in the IPL.

You dont want to play, not us. I m just reacting to BCCI behavior.
 
Its your board which does not want to play for one political excuse or another. Its your cricket board which does not let Pakistan players in the IPL.

You dont want to play, not us. I m just reacting to BCCI behavior.

It is not BCCI. Just see the past 5 or 6 years. there are many reasons and it started with Mumbai, then with terrorist attack on SL team, and then politics. So you cannot blame BCCI.
 
ICC is getting 80% of its money from the BCCI revenues...Which will be divided equally between all the test playing nations...
Its pure maths that you guys are taking our money...


LOL...its india thats not allowing them...
demanding higher share in revenue is a legitimate question but for that sake you cannot take administrative powers of ICC.

You work for a company, you are a good worker, you demand for pay rise. You don't overthrow the owner and takeover the company.
 
First off, revenues don't come from bcci it includes revenues from broadcasting rights from Indian channels, it's a commercial deal from which these channels earn profits. Secondly, same is case with all gaming organisations but they work for forwarding the game not to impose the will of top revenue source country. Finally, even if we take revenue argument for distribution of fund how does it justify veto power or non delegation of 3 countries.
 
interesting debate going on in TV channel

Pakistan, India and West Indies worked very closely to remove the veto power of England Australia. Now if this proposal goes ahead, we will be back to 1993 :D
 
demanding higher share in revenue is a legitimate question but for that sake you cannot take administrative powers of ICC.

You work for a company, you are a good worker, you demand for pay rise. You don't overthrow the owner and takeover the company.
Without administrative powers, can we expect all these poor countries to give our money back...
And what about all the money that was already taken?
Can you compensate that?
 
Without administrative powers, can we expect all these poor countries to give our money back...
And what about all the money that was already taken?
Can you compensate that?
lol seems like you are not serious about this discussion as your argument are bit funny. I think I need to stop here.

Increase in revenue can be worked out easily, its a simple matter which can be discussed in one-off meeting and approved. The only downside to such a proposal would be that no more associate members might be prospered or at least cricket not being promoted by ICC in those nations. Each full member is going to be benefited by such a scenario. Its is not England, Australia and India who are expected to receive higher payments but every full member nation of ICC. The problem is not about money.

I am even against this proposal as I want to see more n more nations participating in cricket.

But exemptions can be made for money thirsty India, England and Australia if they are satisfied after it.

Bye for now,
 
First day of ICC Board meeting concludes
The meeting concluded with unanimous support for key principles

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(L-R) Alan Isaac, ICC President; David Richardson (ICC Chief Executive); Giles Clarke, Chairman of England and Wales Cricket Board at the ICC Executive Board Meeting in Dubai.
The first day of the International Cricket Council's Board meetings concluded in Dubai today with unanimous support for a set of principles relating to the future structure, governance and financial models of the ICC.

The ICC Board unanimously supported the following principles:

· There will be an opportunity for all Members to play all formats of cricket on merit, with participation based on meritocracy; no immunity to any country, and no change to membership status.

· A Test Cricket Fund paid equally on an annual basis to all Full Members (except the Board of Control for Cricket in India, Cricket Australia and the England and Wales Cricket Board) will be introduced to encourage and support Test match cricket.

· A larger percentage from the increasing Associate Members’ surplus will be distributed to the higher performing non-Full Members.

· Mutually agreed bi-lateral FTP Agreements which will be legally binding and bankable and will run for the same period as the ICC commercial rights cycle (2015-2023).

· Recognition of the need for strong leadership of the ICC, involving leading Members, which will involve BCCI taking a central leadership responsibility.

· A need to recognise the varying contribution of Full Members to the value of ICC events through the payment of ‘contribution costs’.

· The establishment of an Executive Committee (ExCo) and Financial & Commercial Affairs Committee (F&CA) to provide leadership at an operational level, with five members, including BCCI, CA and ECB representatives. Anybody from within the Board can be elected to Chair the Board and anybody from within ExCo and F&CA can be elected to Chair those Committees. With the ICC undergoing a transitional period that includes a new governance structure and media rights cycle, this leadership will be provided for two years from June 2014 by: a BCCI representative to Chair the ICC Board, a CA representative to Chair the ExCo and an ECB representative to Chair the F&CA.

· A new company will be incorporated to tender future commercial rights for ICC events. There will be three major ICC events in each four-year cycle, including the ICC Champions Trophy which will replace the ICC World Test Championship.

· ICC will utilise a more efficient operating model for all ICC events, with a simplified accounting model across ICC income and expenditure to help better manage ICC administrative and event costs.

ICC President Alan Isaac said: “This is an important time for world cricket and it is extremely encouraging that the ICC Board has unanimously supported a set of far-reaching principles that will underpin the long-term prosperity of the global game.

“These principles emphasise the primacy of Test cricket and that for the first time in cricket's history participation will be based entirely on meritocracy, giving everyone powerful incentives to play better cricket and develop better cricketers.

“There is more work to be done by the Members in developing their schedules of bilateral cricket while at the ICC we need to work through the detail of the manner in which these principles will be implemented.

“Extensive work will now be undertaken in advance of a follow-up Board meeting next month.”

Mr Isaac also expressed his disappointment with the misconceptions that had been created as a result of a draft position paper produced by three ICC Members being leaked.

“Several months ago I encouraged BCCI, CA and ECB to enter into a constructive dialogue together to help resolve some of the key commercial and governance issues facing the game. These leading cricket nations have worked tirelessly to produce a document which provided the basis for the past few weeks of extremely constructive discussions.

“It is obviously very disappointing that a draft position paper from these Members was leaked as this prompted a debate that ignored the ongoing negotiations between all Members and led to unwarranted criticism of many of those involved in the process.

“The principles agreed today provide clear evidence that through the course of further discussions over the coming weeks we can be increasingly confident in achieving consensus.”

David Richardson, the ICC Chief Executive, added: “An enormous amount of effort has gone into developing a comprehensive set of proposals that include input from all Members.

“The Board has held some very constructive, inclusive, wide-ranging and far-reaching discussions and I am looking forward to bringing to fruition some of the principles that have been proposed and accepted in relation to the cricketing structures of the global game.”

The ICC Board consists of the chairman or president from each of the 10 Full Members plus three elected Associate Member representatives. Also present at ICC Board meetings is the ICC President, who chairs proceedings, the ICC Chief Executive and the ICC Vice-President.

First day of ICC Board meeting concludes - ICC Cricket

ye lo bhai logon...jiske jo doubt hai clear kar lo
 
lol seems like you are not serious about this discussion as your argument are not bit funny. I think I need to stop here.

Increase in revenue can be worked out easily, its a simple matter which can be discussed in one-off meeting and approved. The only downside to such a proposal would be that no more associate members might be prospered or at least cricket not being promoted by ICC in those nations. Each full member is going to be benefited by such a scenario. Its is not England, Australia and India who are expected to receive higher payments but every full member nation of ICC. The problem is not about money.

I am even against this proposal as I want to see more n more nations participating in cricket.

But exemptions can be made for money thirsty India, England and Australia if they are satisfied after it.

Bye for now,
Indians will also be with pakistan if you guys come up with another proposal suggesting greater share to india...
That will keep BCCI away from this...
Personally even i am against the proposal but the plus point in it is we will get more share of money which we poor indians deserve...
 
India isn't dying to play Pakistan either, it's the other way round in reality :D

Neither is Pakistan - you are being opposed in the ICC for a reason , if we were so eager or desperate to play India , we would have taken the BCCI's " bait " offer with both hands . Did it happen ? :azn:

India - Pakistan matches are iconic and you want that not to happen???

On blackmail , no dear , no way . Pakistan will not play on your terms , you see ?
 
What are the specifics ?
The devil is in the details.
Cricinfo had reported that 7 out of 10 votes were needed for changes in the ICC Code of conduct... but in this particular case 8 votes were needed out of 10 full member nations. So logically PCB, SLC, BCB and CSA's opposition means it cannot go through.

But if it also has

Three elected Associate Member representatives. - I suppose they will vote against it mainly because they are going to be effected most.

ICC President -
Alan Isaac is probably going to vote in Favour of it for him belonging to New Zealand
The ICC Chief Executive - Dave Richardson is a South African so probably vote against it
ICC Vice-President - Mustafa Kamal will follow Bangladesh's stance of opposing it. He has already given statement against it
 
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