Panama Case - Post Verdict Discussion and Updates

[El Sidd]

Naraz na hona bahi, but surprised by the extent of lack of faith and pessimism. It is HOPE that drives us forward. It always have been. DONT LOSE THAT. Please.


They will! You should not expect them or anyone to make all the thing right in minutes or hours or even days or months. Will take time but the bill as i said wont have any future.

Bara positive naashta kia ha apne.

Sir constitutional options khatam hogae hain


Baat 184-3 pe agayi hai. Wo bhi change hojaegi as it is also not clearly defined.


You are not understanding what Sayasat really is in Pakistan

 

[Farah Sohail]

They will! You should not expect them or anyone to make all the thing right in minutes or hours or even days or months. Will take time but the bill as i said wont have any future.

Mujhe ye samajh nahi aaraha ke kal se media aur sab political parties lagay huay hain ke NS ab party president phir se ban saktay hain...which is not of much importance.. Kiun ke agar formally NS party ka president na bhi ho..control tu uska hi hai party par.. Woh party president ho ya na ho...is se actual main koi ziada farq nahi parta..

Ziada major issue..disqualification period ka hai ke woh 5 yr kar diya gaya hai..means ke NS wapis aa sakta hai.. Lekin iss par na media kuch bol raha hai aur na political parties... Sheikh Rashid ko bhi suna tu woh yehi keh raha hai ke main party president wali clause ko SC main challenge karun ga.. Us ne bhi 5 yr ki disqualification ka koi zikr nahi kiya..

I think..Imran khan aur Sheikh Rashid ko pata hi nahi hai ke kal jo bilk oass hua hai..us main disqualification ki limit 5 yrs kar di gayi hai.. Iss liye iss ki ziada fikr hai ke jab inhein pata hi nahi hai tubyeh SC main challenge bhi nahi karein ge.. Agar sirf party president walai clause challenge ki..SC main aur woh strike down ho bhi gayi,,tu koi faida nahi.. Disqualification wali clause ko jab tak challenge nahi karin ge..tu strike down kaisy hogi?

 

[Salik]

I have a feeling that this bill is good. Sheikh Rasheed shouldn't challenge it in supreme court.

It is essential. Let this law take its course please.

 

[Farah Sohail]

I have a feeling that this bill is good. Sheikh Rasheed shouldn't challenge it in supreme court.

It is essential. Let this law take its course please.

Hain??? Is bill main acha kia hai? Iss bill main period of disqualification bhi 5 yr kar diya gaya hai.. Means NS can return after 5 yrs to national assembly

 

[Islam is hope]

Heard that pti will chalange it in court.. lets see..

 

[PakSword]

Its confirmed now..tht disqualification period has been reduced to 5 yrs.. It means...ke NS wapis aajayega.. ..panama verdict ka koi faida nahi hua? Sab khatam?

Mujhay tou Panama decision ke first week se hi shak tha.. Aap kehti theen ke SC strike down kardegi..

Mujhay afsos sirf iss baat ka hai ke main samajhta tha ke PPP N-League ki support karegi.. yahan tou 7 PTI ke members ne senate se walk out kar ke sari umeedon par pani pher dia..

Panama verdict ka koi faida nahi hai jab tak sharif family watan wapis nahi aajati..

 

[The Accountant]

Hain??? Is bill main acha kia hai? Iss bill main period of disqualification bhi 5 yr kar diya gaya hai.. Means NS can return after 5 yrs to national assembly

This was max they could have done ... But will this stop from NAB cases ?

Importance is of to get NAB moving

 

[PakSword]

Heard that pti will chalange it in court.. lets see..

PTI should first take action against those 7 senators who boycotted the voting. Because of them, this bill has been passed with borderline majority..

This was max they could have done ... But will this stop from NAB cases ?

Importance is of to get NAB moving

If in 6 months, Sharif family doesn't attend the cases, NAB may close the cases citing the requirement of completing the proceedings in 6 months, which they couldn't achieve.

As Farogh Naseem says.. cases sard khanay ki nazar hojaeingay..

 

[The Accountant]

PTI should first take action against those 7 senators who boycotted the voting. Because of them, this bill has been passed with borderline majority..



If in 6 months, Sharif family doesn't attend the cases, NAB may close the cases citing the requirement of completing the proceedings in 6 months, which they couldn't achieve.

As Farogh Naseem says.. cases sard khanay ki nazar hojaeingay..

Then nobody will be able to save Pakistan from disintegrating ... Having said this judiciary and establishment already know that this is last attempt to save this nation ... If this time this crooks do not get nailed then they will have no fear even in selling Pakistan ...

The only delay is to set the process as the judges said hm ny bht muhtat hokr faisla likha ha ...

I have trust in this judiciary and they need our support

PTI should first take action against those 7 senators who boycotted the voting. Because of them, this bill has been passed with borderline majority..



If in 6 months, Sharif family doesn't attend the cases, NAB may close the cases citing the requirement of completing the proceedings in 6 months, which they couldn't achieve.

As Farogh Naseem says.. cases sard khanay ki nazar hojaeingay..

PTI is full of such traitors

 

[Farah Sohail]

Mujhay tou Panama decision ke first week se hi shak tha.. Aap kehti theen ke SC strike down kardegi..

Mujhay afsos sirf iss baat ka hai ke main samajhta tha ke PPP N-League ki support karegi.. yahan tou 7 PTI ke members ne senate se walk out kar ke sari umeedon par pani pher dia..

Panama verdict ka koi faida nahi hai jab tak sharif family watan wapis nahi aajati..

PTI ke 7 senators ne boycott nahi kiya.. 1 senator islamabad main nahi thay..christian..jo minority seat par hain... Aur ek Nauman Wazir hain jo assembly main bhi thay lekin voting main participate nahi kiya..baqi ne aitezaz Ahsan ki ammendment ko vote diya hai..

Acha ye 5 yr wali cheez koi clear karay.. Even klasra, khawar ghumman..who are extrnely ant Nawaz sharif..none is talking abt 5 yr disqualification period.......even Malick's prog jo abhi horaha tha..and klasra was a guest there . Ye sab kal senate ki ammendment ki baat karrahay thay aur isay criticise karrahay thay..ye party president wali cheez.. Lekin kisi ne 5 yr disqualification ka zikr nahi kia... Kiun?

Waisy main aaj Iftikhar ch ki kahin statement parh rahi thee.. He said ke koi bhi ammendment jo ab hogi..uska puranay case ..jin ke faislay aa chukay hain..us par asr nahi karay ga.. SC ke verdict par koi asar nahi hoga..

 

[PakSword]

Then nobody will be able to save Pakistan from disintegrating ... Having said this judiciary and establishment already know that this is last attempt to save this nation ... If this time this crooks do not get nailed then they will have no fear even in selling Pakistan ...

The only delay is to set the process as the judges said hm ny bht muhtat hokr faisla likha ha ...

I have trust in this judiciary and they need our support

As per my information, establishment and judiciary are on the same page to allow NS to leave the country..

I so much want that my information is wrong..

 

[Farah Sohail]

As per my information, establishment and judiciary are on the same page to allow NS to leave the country..

I so much want that my information is wrong..

Realistic Change has different info on this matter.. He says...Ijaz ul Ahsan will play his role in coming days...
Abhi tak tu J Ijaz ul Ahsan ne role play nahi kiya.. But Realistic Change is optimistic tht he will play his role in coming days..

 

[PakSword]

PTI ke 7 senators ne boycott nahi kiya.. 1 senator islamabad main nahi thay..christian..jo minority seat par hain... Aur ek Nauman Wazir hain jo assembly main bhi thay lekin voting main participate nahi kiya..baqi ne aitezaz Ahsan ki ammendment ko vote diya hai..

Whatever, it was a mismanagement by PTI... as confirmed in this clip..

Realistic Change has different info on this matter.. He says...Ijaz ul Ahsan will play his role in coming days...
Abhi tak tu J Ijaz ul Ahsan ne role play nahi kiya.. But Realistic Change is optimistic tht he will play his role in coming days..

I hope his information is correct.

I am skeptical because shareef family has already left. Also, as I said in my previous posts, everyone, including NAB officials, will now act as if they are very honest..

buhat tezi ajaegi..

As long as NS is out of the country, there is no use of these kind of "Phurtiaan" now..

 

[The Accountant]

Yes but there is no setlement in closing NAB cases ...

As per my information, establishment and judiciary are on the same page to allow NS to leave the country..

I so much want that my information is wrong..

 

[PakSword]

PTI ke 7 senators ne boycott nahi kiya.. 1 senator islamabad main nahi thay..christian..jo minority seat par hain... Aur ek Nauman Wazir hain jo assembly main bhi thay lekin voting main participate nahi kiya..baqi ne aitezaz Ahsan ki ammendment ko vote diya hai..

kal ki poori karastani kisi ne share ki hai yahan..

https://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?580375-انتخابی-اصلاحات-بل-شق203

Yes but there is no setlement in closing NAB cases ...

True that.. But NAB cases become ineffective in absentia..