Palestine call for Pakistan army and Muslim countries for help

[The SC]

To validate a fighter kill, you need to have verification by cameras and/or witnesses,
wreckages, and some cases information on how many planes were lost from the losing side.
For now, the PAF claim is not supported by such hard facts.
Just a lot of web pages, which might or might not present the truth.

RJAF claims on their webpage that RJAF shot down four,and lost one in the air,
and 20 on the ground. Israel claims they lost three that day.
Azam's wikipage claims his wingman was shot down.
5th of June, the four Hunters were all with Pakistani pilots according to Wiki.
I find it unlikely, that Azam flew with a Jordani wingman.

If RJAF claims Pak pilot kills as their own, and the planes were indeed shot down by
a Pakistani pilot (which has no hard proof), then it is as proved that another Pakistani was shot down.

Your post does not have any logic to it, you better keep it to International Law as you seem to have access to most of its sources..
Anyway, why the Palestinians would call upon Pakistan amongst some 50 other Muslim states!? this sounds fishy in the first place.. it has more to do with the Pakistani defence minister responding to Usrael that Pakistan also has nukes..
So this is obviously staged by the Usraeli media as a soft provocation and test for Pakistan..As we all know, anyone can play with the media technologies today, having a demonstration in the West bank and changing/adding voices screaming Pakistan is only another well known media trick, just like the videos of Bin Laden saying things he had never said.. that is suppressing or overwriting of the original audio with what one wants other people to hear..

 

[Solomon2]

A century ago, they sided with British and revolted against Caliphate. Now they are asking help from Ummah... That's real rich you know...

My people have fought with their blood and sweat to protect this land, let the Jews keep their millions and once the Khilafah is torn apart one day, then they can take Palestine without a price
Ottoman Sultan Abdul Hamid II​

And so it was: after the Arab revolt aided the Turkish defeat neither this Sultan's successors nor the post-Ottoman Turkish leadership nor the League of Nations had any qualms about deeding the political rights of Palestine exclusively to the Jews, not the Arabs.

 

[VFY]

That was 100 years ago, and is no excuse not to help them now.

Tribal folk such as Jews, Turks, Arabs have long memories. This is why they have backwards thinking.

 

[EXPERIMENT]

@Rasengan Brother, this is for you, and other Muslim brothers

Yeah send Pakistan. Just like in Jordan under Zia

 

[VFY]

Yeah send Pakistan. Just like in Jordan under Zia

 

[Arsalan mehmud]

Pakistan was there in 1967 war... and will always with Palestine people..
Just waiting for the right time...

 

[Lotus_stalk]

Jews are already 80% of Israel population, Muslims barely constitute 15%. Israeli nukes complicated matters further. God forbid if Israel uses nukes, how many lives would be lost in the middle east region ?

 

[Tshering22]

an army which will defeat hindh will defeat jews along with ISSA ibne maryam.

Modi had started the process, we will finish it.

Which means for you, religion is war and not a way to attain happiness in life.

I am sure many, many of your fellow Muslims will disagree with your generalised statements as they don't want wars, but peace.

So far all Modi has done is to completely ignore you in every way possible.

First worry about reclaiming your own country from within, then talk about invading everyone else.

I wouldn't comment on other Muslim Countries but PAF pilots shot down several Israeli planes without losing a single one in Six day war.

And in Yom-kippur war PAF destroyed a few Israeli jets.


Stockholm institute ranked Pakistan overall military strength to 0.41 and Israel overall military strength to 0.32 in World Military Balance 2015.

But why do you want to fight Israel?

You don't share land borders with them.

You are not Arabs (at least that's what many Pakistanis say).

You don't have a shared history of wars or conflicts except the one indirect confrontation that too purely on voluntary basis from your country's government.

What justification will you give to invade? Religious prophecies? No one will buy it in any international body.

It will screw your image more than what it already has been in the global community.

 

[GBU-28]

Pakistan was there in 1967 war... and will always with Palestine people..
Just waiting for the right time...

Pakistanis always beat their chest thinking they're relevant in the world.

You produce nothing but terror, whilst Israel is contributing daily to Science, Tech & Medicine.

Get back under your rock and stop acting like a tough guy.

 

[Cthulhu]

But why do you want to fight Israel?

You don't share land borders with them.

You are not Arabs (at least that's what many Pakistanis say).

You don't have a shared history of wars or conflicts except the one indirect confrontation that too purely on voluntary basis from your country's government.

What justification will you give to invade? Religious prophecies? No one will buy it in any international body.

It will screw your image more than what it already has been in the global community.

Please come and explain this to our crazy people in this thread:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/iran...-companies-supporting-terrorism.485703/page-3

 

[BetterPakistan]

Which means for you, religion is war and not a way to attain happiness in life.

I am sure many, many of your fellow Muslims will disagree with your generalised statements as they don't want wars, but peace.

So far all Modi has done is to completely ignore you in every way possible.

First worry about reclaiming your own country from within, then talk about invading everyone else.



But why do you want to fight Israel?

You don't share land borders with them.

You are not Arabs (at least that's what many Pakistanis say).

You don't have a shared history of wars or conflicts except the one indirect confrontation that too purely on voluntary basis from your country's government.

What justification will you give to invade? Religious prophecies? No one will buy it in any international body.

It will screw your image more than what it already has been in the global community.

We don't want to fight Israel neither anyone else. I was just clarifying the achievements of PAF which was being disgraced by few members here.

That is just another website without hard facts.
I am afraid You will need to produce valid documentation from RJAF and IDF,
to claim You have hard facts.

I don't need to do it. Anyone with limited knowledge of wars know the performance and combat capabilities of PAF. We have a history of combat and it doesn't matter if few newbies don't recognize it or either they don't want to.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

We don't want to fight Israel neither anyone else. I was just clarifying the achievements of PAF which was being disgraced by few members here.



I don't need to do it. Anyone with limited knowledge of wars know the performance and combat capabilities of PAF. We have a history of combat and it doesn't matter if few newbies don't recognize it or either they don't want to.

You have a claimed history of achievements which conflicts with other claimed history of achievements.
Professional Air Forces keep track of claimed kills in official records, not on wiki.

 

[BetterPakistan]

You have a claimed history of achievements which conflicts with other claimed history of achievements.
Professional Air Forces keep track of claimed kills in official records, not on wiki.

And they had kept record and this is the reason the world praises our air force and combat experience. What else can I say when Israel Air Force chief of that time praised our Air Chief Marshal and combat capabilities. You have failed to back your claims and now you are demanding me to provide you kills video, i mean what a joke is this?

You should browse PAF website here and read Flt Lt Saiful Azam record:-
http://www.paf.gov.pk/air_warriors.html

 

[19CavPK]

Not happening. This is a HuT video. An organization that has been banned here in Pakistan and is considered to be a Proscribed Organization. Following are some facts about this group.

1. Their end objective may very well be for the good. but their methodology is that of confusion. The means to a good end need to be good and should not be on the wrong. They don't know how and what needs to be done.
2. They do not disclose their leadership.
3. They do not have an answer to the question that would the Caliph appointed be from Shia School of Thought or the Sunni one and either way, would the other sect agree to such an appointment? Not happening.
4. They promote sedition and call on officers from the armed forces towards mutiny against their superiors. A crime punishable by death. Both by the Islamic jurisprudence as well as the Pakistani constitution.
5. They're an off-shoot of the Muslim Brotherhood. And since their methodology is so confusing, they have further off-shoots and most of them are, because of the confusing approach, resorted to arms against the Pakistani State. Many of its members are in jails right now and they are mostly put on the 4th schedule.
6. Brig Ali (Court Martialed) was in contact with this group and it was due to this contact that he was discharged from duty.
7. When ISIS first emerged in Iraq and Syria and proclaimed the formation of a Caliphate, this group first vowed and appreciated it and then later approached it to give allegiance. Something that didn't happen as their very own emissaries weren't allowed to go back.
8. They call all those who serve in the armed forces as deviants if they do not agree with their methodology.
9. They have attempted bloody coups in Jordan and Syria and have failed. Hundreds of Thousands lost their lives during these coup attempts.
10. Their prime targets are Pakistan and Turkey. The two most powerful armed forces in the Muslim world. They want the army in Turkey and Pakistan to overthrow the democratic system and give the reins of power to this organization and help protect its legitimacy and power by giving their organization the pledge of allegiance.
11.Some elements in the intelligence believe them to be a prop placed in the Muslim world by MI6.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

And they had kept record and this is the reason the world praises our air force and combat experience. What else can I say when Israel Air Force chief of that time praised our Air Chief Marshal and combat capabilities. You have failed to back your claims and now you are demanding me to provide you kills video, i mean what a joke is this?

You should browse PAF website here and read Flt Lt Saiful Azam record:-
http://www.paf.gov.pk/air_warriors.html

I have not made any claims, I have pointed out your lack of proof.
This is good for the kill claims, but still does not make a claim that no Pakistanis were shot down, which was the thing starting the debate.